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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 14:52:00 -
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thor424 wrote:
There are a lot of points to hit on there. I am going to ignore most of it. I've been in PC from the very first day. I was in all of the big wars. I'm an abvious, alt.
There has never been a persistent way to team deploy. Scheduling a match 24-48 hours away isn't persistence. I've said it before, I think it's too late to revive team play in Dust, I don't think anything can change the pacifist behavior of the majority of our playerbase. But I think for any hope of a future, they have to try and make their best asset shine.
And who is your main?
Anyone can say they were in PC at the start, but the groups that were in a persistent war were few and far between.
So instead of teaching teamplay, you just want to exclude people who don't meet your standards? Seems legit.
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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 14:53:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:
You mean pub matches where it starts uneven? Not gonna waste time on those matches where its impossible to win. You do exactly the same when you are not getting carried by your squadmembers. Im not taking anyone in OH serious espacially not a recently recruited command point slave like you.
You don't want to waste time on matches you can't win, but you want to be able to inflict that on others through team deploy.
Seems REALLY legit.
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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 15:19:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:
Bollocks, people have the notion that FW is some predetermined 16 player sync, whereas really it's for the players who can't commit to being on every day (PC) but still want competitive team games
In case you haven't noticed, the proponents of this want to turn it into 16 man syncs all day.
Because rather than duke it out in PC, they want to stay together as a team and play against uncoordinated groups. They are not looking for competitive play, they are looking to create unbalanced matches that they can essentially farm for easy wins, CP, and LP.
Their goal is fundamentally uncompetitive. Look at how many blue donut folks are posting as this is the salvation for the game. Do you trust these same people who refused to fight each other for glory to suddenly start being legitimate competition seekers?
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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 15:21:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:
With uneven matches i mean 6vs15 etc. as we all probs allready experienced. If you are on the receiving end of that pub match you wont win regardless what you do.
And unless the q syncers are horrible, 16 in a team versus an 8 squad and 8 randoms is almost an assured win for the 16 in a team deploy.
When the 8 squad sees they are overmatched, they back out and its 16 in a team versus 8 randoms and whoever fills in.
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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 16:23:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:General Mosquito. I want you to answer a couple questions. You realize than I can run a 16 man sync right now with little to no trouble right for hours on end?
Secondly, as the number of full teams or large squads in the FW pool raises the probability of a sync facing another sync does what?
As you said if we "turn it into 16 man syncs all day" what would the other team deployments be fighting?
I would like you to take into account that the team builder for FW prioritizes larger groups when making your assessment of these questions.
Little to no trouble, and yet you are demanding an expenditure of development resources just to make your stomping easier. This is the kain we all know.
Go and read post 288, and provide an answer to that method of managing the queue. You never did address that when someone asked you. Instead you went the other way and lashed out because you can't reply to it. We both know how you roll, and I think that the opportunity you had to change that was when someone yesterday told you to man up and talk to me instead of asking around on Skype to please stay out of your thread. Did you man up? Of course not, you went the other way because you can't properly respond without admitting that there is no method of stopping offsetting syncs from farming.
At this point, you can have your team deploy. You clearly are willing to go to extreme lengths to ensure uncompetitive gameplay, so why not. It'll be yet another sterling example of how you are willing to throw anyone under the bus to get yours.
The best part about this is that the people this will really affect aren't the ones on the forum. Almost every person who comes here is the type of cowardly scrub who you would find more than willing to help you create LP easy mode.
Enjoy a sub 2k player count Kain, you have been working so hard to get it down over the years, only a little further to go! 6 months more of stomping and you guys can pretend to have won dust.
This will probably be my last post after you report it, because we both know you can't get into a discussion on this subject. Its ok though, when that happens it will be my personal validation that you intend to farm the crap out of FW, because if you could defend your position you would instead of being the report monkey.
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General Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.07.03 17:03:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
You'd have us believe that everyone who plays this game wants Team Deploy out of a sense of maliciousness...
Not everyone. But certain people and corps most definitely.
Bringing in a robust system that allows team deploy would be fine. Bringing in one that is easily gamed is silly, because there will be groups who take advantage.
That no one wants to admit this, and instead pretends that those persons who have a history of either boosting, exploiting or otherwise engaging in uncompetitive activities(blue donut bros!) are suddenly going to develop a sense of integrity is frankly absurd.
Will be hilarious when they give it to you and it plays out how I say it will.
I'll necro this thread when it does, to laugh heartily at all you scrubs.
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