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The Attorney General wrote:

Going full gank can work, but you can also drop a damage amp for an extender and maybe survive any sort of AV.

A blaster turret going red while you are engaging the enemy tank would wreck you.

With that said, there is no such thing as sniping with tanks anymore. With only a 300m range on the rails you are already in range of missile turrets, and a fuel injected Maddy can cover the distance pretty quickly as well.

You can hide in your redline with a fit like that, but then you aren't really doing anything, and you will spend most late matches looking at an empty back flag as people figure out where you are shooting from and just avoid you.

You can't use multiple heat sinks, just fyi.

People run that maddy fit because it is the only tank worth a damn in the game right now. There are some highly situational shield fits, but for everything else, armor, because it is the only tank that has chance of getting out of a bad spot. Sure it sucks in the corners, but a nitrous can fix that most of the time. Higher top speed, better tank, better reps that can't be interrupted.

BTW, hill sniping in a gunny, especially a glass cannon fit, is not a good idea. You don't have the range to hide, and any good maddy driver is just going to drive under you to make you come out because of the lack of gun depression on the Gunny. Without a prop mod, extender or even a hardener, you can't take the two hits you will eat to get back to cover.

Finally, tanks with no tank really don't do well against even standard proxies. Even scout suits can lay a 5 pack and not sacrifice the second equipment slot.

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Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 422	Posted - 2015.06.28 08:00:00 - [1] - Quote gunnlogi with 4 complex damage mods and a complex heat sink? and whatever else you can fit on it I myself have to use two cpu upgrades since I do not have max tank skills and I only have access to the std tanks, why not try it with a proto tank? great for tanking out proto tanks from afar as you can fire enough high damage shots to take them out in a few hits, a proto rail turret with these mods must do somewhere in the 3k range of damage? or am I completly wrong to think that the mods stack? they seem to stack as I have taken out some 6k ehp tanks with 3 shots using an adv rail turret anyway let me know if you try it out and what your results are, if you are going to try it dont get cocky as your tank is going to more then likely be a glass cannon so it wont take much to take you out, don't let anyone sneak up on you and staying close to an escape route or on a cliff that can provide a good vantage point and cover I am going to be trying out multiple heat sinks next, havent seen many people use tanks to thier full potential everyone just spams the same maddy double hardener fit, its extremely annoying and fairly broken in my opinion, but I think the complex damage mod gunnlogi might be able to snipe it out of existence click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 729	Posted - 2015.06.28 12:59:00 - [2] - Quote Adv gunnie Pro missile 2adv extender 2 basic hardener 1 adv missile damage. Chews through installations and armor. 4000+ hardened shields. Invincible to swarms and rails/forge and missile. Only weakness- blasters and PC. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.06.28 13:19:00 - [3] - Quote It's nice for surprise ganks but you can be ripped to shreds by a HMG Heavy (or Nova Knife Scout) with Flux grenades sooo
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2015.06.28 13:29:00 - [4] - Quote You think it's a good idea, until I smite you in 4 seconds with my officer forge because you skipped on the HP and hardeners. But I guess if your okay with losing your tank in the process of taking someone else's out, go for it. And make no mistake, I have no problems going on a suicide mission in your red line to make sure you die for that bs :D
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 744	Posted - 2015.06.28 13:39:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: It's nice for surprise ganks but you can be ripped to shreds by a HMG Heavy (or Nova Knife Scout) with Flux grenades sooo It doesn't matter what tank you run, musturd will always kill you. If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident. probably.
The Attorney General 2	Posted - 2015.06.28 13:44:00 - [6] - Quote Going full gank can work, but you can also drop a damage amp for an extender and maybe survive any sort of AV. A blaster turret going red while you are engaging the enemy tank would wreck you. With that said, there is no such thing as sniping with tanks anymore. With only a 300m range on the rails you are already in range of missile turrets, and a fuel injected Maddy can cover the distance pretty quickly as well. You can hide in your redline with a fit like that, but then you aren't really doing anything, and you will spend most late matches looking at an empty back flag as people figure out where you are shooting from and just avoid you. You can't use multiple heat sinks, just fyi. People run that maddy fit because it is the only tank worth a damn in the game right now. There are some highly situational shield fits, but for everything else, armor, because it is the only tank that has chance of getting out of a bad spot. Sure it sucks in the corners, but a nitrous can fix that most of the time. Higher top speed, better tank, better reps that can't be interrupted. BTW, hill sniping in a gunny, especially a glass cannon fit, is not a good idea. You don't have the range to hide, and any good maddy driver is just going to drive under you to make you come out because of the lack of gun depression on the Gunny. Without a prop mod, extender or even a hardener, you can't take the two hits you will eat to get back to cover. Finally, tanks with no tank really don't do well against even standard proxies. Even scout suits can lay a 5 pack and not sacrifice the second equipment slot. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy No Context 1	Posted - 2015.06.28 15:07:00 - [7] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: gunnlogi with 4 complex damage mods and a complex heat sink? and whatever else you can fit on it I myself have to use two cpu upgrades since I do not have max tank skills and I only have access to the std tanks, why not try it with a proto tank? great for tanking out proto tanks from afar as you can fire enough high damage shots to take them out in a few hits, a proto rail turret with these mods must do somewhere in the 3k range of damage? or am I completly wrong to think that the mods stack? they seem to stack as I have taken out some 6k ehp tanks with 3 shots using an adv rail turret anyway let me know if you try it out and what your results are, if you are going to try it dont get cocky as your tank is going to more then likely be a glass cannon so it wont take much to take you out, don't let anyone sneak up on you and staying close to an escape route or on a cliff that can provide a good vantage point and cover I am going to be trying out multiple heat sinks next, havent seen many people use tanks to thier full potential everyone just spams the same maddy double hardener fit, its extremely annoying and fairly broken in my opinion, but I think the complex damage mod gunnlogi might be able to snipe it out of existence FoTM tank - No tank XD "Caller of the Monolith"
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 16	Posted - 2015.06.28 17:36:00 - [8] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Going full gank can work, but you can also drop a damage amp for an extender and maybe survive any sort of AV. A blaster turret going red while you are engaging the enemy tank would wreck you. With that said, there is no such thing as sniping with tanks anymore. With only a 300m range on the rails you are already in range of missile turrets, and a fuel injected Maddy can cover the distance pretty quickly as well. You can hide in your redline with a fit like that, but then you aren't really doing anything, and you will spend most late matches looking at an empty back flag as people figure out where you are shooting from and just avoid you. You can't use multiple heat sinks, just fyi. People run that maddy fit because it is the only tank worth a damn in the game right now. There are some highly situational shield fits, but for everything else, armor, because it is the only tank that has chance of getting out of a bad spot. Sure it sucks in the corners, but a nitrous can fix that most of the time. Higher top speed, better tank, better reps that can't be interrupted. BTW, hill sniping in a gunny, especially a glass cannon fit, is not a good idea. You don't have the range to hide, and any good maddy driver is just going to drive under you to make you come out because of the lack of gun depression on the Gunny. Without a prop mod, extender or even a hardener, you can't take the two hits you will eat to get back to cover. Finally, tanks with no tank really don't do well against even standard proxies. Even scout suits can lay a 5 pack and not sacrifice the second equipment slot. Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 424	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:01:00 - [9] - Quote Magnus Belmont wrote: You think it's a good idea, until I smite you in 4 seconds with my officer forge because you skipped on the HP and hardeners. But I guess if your okay with losing your tank in the process of taking someone else's out, go for it. And make no mistake, I have no problems going on a suicide mission in your red line to make sure you die for that bs :D it only costs like 400k pretty cheap if you ask me, compared to losing a full proto tank If I die I'm only gonna die once, unless im trying to finish that darn vehicle assist mission which takes forever because no blueberry is capable of assisting or getting kills even when assisted by a tank My ADS costs more then that and I use them to jihad tanks when I get bored so money is no issue I've got bpo's and what not to farm isk up click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do He's not saying you're going to have a hard time killing maddys. He's saying you're going to have a tough time against a half decent tanker. The enemies of God stand broken before us. The light of the Reclaiming shines over them! 12/13/14 Never forget

Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 424	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:02:00 - [11] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do if you can help me with any vehicle assist quests that come up that'd be great I have omegas ready to farm up some SP when the event comes up so I might max out my vehicle skills click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:11:00 - [12] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do He's not saying you're going to have a hard time killing maddys. He's saying you're going to have a tough time against a half decent tanker. Aye. Only way that fit will work is if you shoot first. Not caring about KD
The Attorney General 2	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:16:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do He's not saying you're going to have a hard time killing maddys. He's saying you're going to have a tough time against a half decent tanker. Aye. Only way that fit will work is if you shoot first. And don't miss. And not be so far forward you can accidentally run into av or a turret. Or have been scanned really. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 424	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:19:00 - [14] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Going full gank can work, but you can also drop a damage amp for an extender and maybe survive any sort of AV. A blaster turret going red while you are engaging the enemy tank would wreck you. With that said, there is no such thing as sniping with tanks anymore. With only a 300m range on the rails you are already in range of missile turrets, and a fuel injected Maddy can cover the distance pretty quickly as well. yeah I did die to an adv missile gunnie once but I had him running for his life for most of the match, the only reason I died once was because a blue dot decided to block my vision and as soon as he got out of the way I was hit with a barrage of missiles It had good enough range for most maps and I basically use it the same way I would my Cal assault with an assault sniper rifle the heat sink allows for me to be able to fire most of the clip and it only takes 3 direct shots to take down most tanks, hit them in a weak spot and it only takes 2 even if they are repped and hardened, the actual fit I was using was 3 enhanced rail damage mods 1 complex heat sink and 1 enhanced shield extender adv rail with two enhanced cpu mods its only 304k for this fit so its pretty cheap and I can spam them If need be two of these tanks should be able to cover each other and the map well enough that no other tank would be able to get in close enough to kill them but if one does happen to go down the other can take out whoever or whatever took it out as far as the enemy stationary turrets you can take those out so fast from afar that it should not even be a problem, I'm not saying hide in the redline but if you aren't using cover and good vantage points then you aren't doing it right, not the way I intended it to be played at least, and sure you could come sneak up on any tank to take it out from a weak spot but since the only difference is about one shot its still better to engage from afar as far as AV I sniped about 5 fg users that tried to kill me its more a sniper fit then anything else so I would not take it out into the field I'd just like to see more diversity in tanks and if this helps blues take out enemy maddies then thats great the sp investment for a tank like this isn't that high and its relatively cheap compared to well fitted tanks click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 424	Posted - 2015.06.28 20:22:00 - [15] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Aye. Only way that fit will work is if you shoot first. thats kinda the whole point of the build, its basically a sniper so if you aren't in a good position you are already basically dead most maps have at least one good ledge close to an escape route that leads back to the redline with a supply depo en route click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
DUST Fiend 17	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:03:00 - [16] - Quote Just want to add, being a cowardly redline rail sniper in a gank fit isn't exactly new
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 425	Posted - 2015.06.28 22:04:00 - [17] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Just want to add, being a cowardly redline rail sniper in a gank fit isn't exactly new you did read the whole post right? this is nothing like the tanks of old click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 16	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:40:00 - [18] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Blood Immortal wrote: Now, now, now so wrong. I shred maddys all day long with my gunny, but agree everything else. Find me and I will show you what a gunny can do if you can help me with any vehicle assist quests that come up that'd be great I have omegas ready to farm up some SP when the event comes up so I might max out my vehicle skills just let me know when and I will see if I can help
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 16	Posted - 2015.06.28 23:45:00 - [19] - Quote I admit that the fit does good for redline snip, but once I find you and if I can come right at you or sneak up behind then it is over. Now if you are out and about with a maddy and are alone then I will get you. Gunny's are so much more diversified than maddys, in my humble opinion.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 425	Posted - 2015.06.29 00:26:00 - [20] - Quote Blood Immortal wrote: I admit that the fit does good for redline snip, but once I find you and if I can come right at you or sneak up behind then it is over. Now if you are out and about with a maddy and are alone then I will get you. Gunny's are so much more diversified than maddys, in my humble opinion. lol why does everyone here sound like they used to be coward redline snipers this fit is not meant for front line fighting but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be stuck in the redline or that you'll be able to sneak up on me this fit engages at range and takes out targets fast, you can have two other with you to help either A: watch your flanks from AV and other tanks and B: help you to take out your targets even faster so yes you could try to sneak up on me but as soon as you are spotted you are more then likely dead unless you take cover quickly, if you manage to get the jump on me sure you can take me out quickly but chances are I have the advantage of a vantage point and if not I can run away quickly using my escape route, gunnies have fast acceleration so they can get away fairly quick if you do happen to see me close to the front line more then likely I will be close to a friendly turret or close to teammates click here if you are making a new account and want some free BPO's

The Attorney General 2	Posted - 2015.06.29 01:00:00 - [21] - Quote Maddy with a prop mod accelerates faster and has a higher top speed. So even though you say otherwise you are always hanging back. Otherwise militia swarms wreck you. I like when enemy tankers do this, makes for an easy win. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 01:04:00 - [22] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: gunnlogi with 4 complex damage mods and a complex heat sink? and whatever else you can fit on it I myself have to use two cpu upgrades since I do not have max tank skills and I only have access to the std tanks, why not try it with a proto tank? great for tanking out proto tanks from afar as you can fire enough high damage shots to take them out in a few hits, a proto rail turret with these mods must do somewhere in the 3k range of damage? or am I completly wrong to think that the mods stack? they seem to stack as I have taken out some 6k ehp tanks with 3 shots using an adv rail turret anyway let me know if you try it out and what your results are, if you are going to try it dont get cocky as your tank is going to more then likely be a glass cannon so it wont take much to take you out, don't let anyone sneak up on you and staying close to an escape route or on a cliff that can provide a good vantage point and cover I am going to be trying out multiple heat sinks next, havent seen many people use tanks to thier full potential everyone just spams the same maddy double hardener fit, its extremely annoying and fairly broken in my opinion, but I think the complex damage mod gunnlogi might be able to snipe it out of existence Its a good gankmobile, but thats it. Anyone who has railed has run stacked damage since...forever. Ask Chances. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Alena Ventrallis Commando Perkone Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.06.29 15:50:00 - [23] - Quote This is a tank you use when your redline is camped. No other useful purpose. Pop out, zap a tank, roll back in. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.29 23:11:00 - [24] - Quote You missed out 3 things. - Maddy is able to have active hardener 24/7 - You can spot tanks on a map - You can see enemy vehicles through the terraint/structure. Just move your cursor around. Loyal to The State Member of State Protectorate // Belongs to Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline


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