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korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:31:00 -
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I also cringe thinking about MD spam from floating platforms, but at the same time I really can't think of a valid reason we shouldn't be able to. As a balancing factor perhaps make this an option on open topped variants of the vehicles to allow the passengers to be targeted. |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:49:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Letting people fire swarms from dropships assures that tanks will cease to be a valid unit on the field.
Plasma cannons would be the most sporting. Planetside 2 allows passengers to shoot from the seats of their Valkyries. You can also do repair on the ship in flight. But expecting to actually get a kill is nearly impossible, target lock is a significant problem with everything moving in 5 axis (3 for the vehicle and 2 for the target). Plus, there is the whole shields to protect the passengers issue. If those are removed then I would assume that a well place rail gun turret round could empty a derp ship quite handily. Or, if we ever get fragmented missiles back.
I don't think vehicle shields should apply to passengers if we do this, after all they don't currently(lav) |
korrah silain
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Posted - 2015.06.27 00:50:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:korrah silain wrote:I don't think vehicle shields should apply to passengers if we do this, after all they don't currently(lav) There are physical shields that lower on landing and rise up to protect the non-gunners in a drop ship. LAV passengers don't have anything like that.
Right I thought you were referring to energy shields applying, but yes in regards to why the (physical) shields should be taken away if we can fire out: a) they restrict movement and thus firing angles limiting offensive ability, while b) they provide a very large area of invulnerability which would make sense in a ship designed to separate the passengers from the field(disallowing firing) but I feel are a fair trade off if we are going to allow passengers to fire(extra offense=more vulnerability) |
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Posted - 2015.06.27 03:36:00 -
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Kallas Hallytyr wrote:Yeah...no.
Swarms in their current state fired from a DS would basically render vehicles stupidly obsolete. DS with two Swarm/MD Commandos would just murder any enemy DS or LAV and seriously mess up any HAV while having the manoeuvrability to chase them down/hound them forever.
It would be the derp-iest vehicle change because Swarms are so incredibly dumb.
But...and stick with me here...helicopters are traditionally employed as tank hunters...an tanks are stupidly op at the moment and need counterplay introduced, AND (I have heard) ds piolets are looking for a role besides taxi to the bs spawn camping grounds on top of buildings. Further we could take this a an opportunity to tune the sl against a specific vehicle target(drop ship) while tuning down effectivness against tanks creating counterplay in a rock paper scissors way, perhaps tune the plasma cannon or forge gun to be especially good against tanks and badabing we could solve at least three balancing problems with some minor tweaking |
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