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Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 63	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:07:00 - [1] - Quote Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Jadek Manaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 15	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:13:00 - [2] - Quote Valid points, but it's also a little trickier to snipe people and vehicles at range with a plasma cannon.
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 63	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:17:00 - [3] - Quote scout runs up 1 plc rd 3 av grenades reload plc rd and tank dead before hardeners activate or can move 30m. if shield tank just keep hitting with plc. CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 64	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:19:00 - [4] - Quote Jadek Manaheim wrote: Valid points, but it's also a little trickier to snipe people and vehicles at range with a plasma cannon. but its more useful in cqb especialy jumpy fits CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Jadek Manaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 16	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:21:00 - [5] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Jadek Manaheim wrote: Valid points, but it's also a little trickier to snipe people and vehicles at range with a plasma cannon. but its more useful in cqb especialy jumpy fits Oh I know. I'm a punchy min scout evangelist.
Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff US Border Patrol 273	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:21:00 - [6] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? Mmmmmmmmmmm delicious tears from fetal abortion. Yummy I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve. McLovin for CPBM2
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 64	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:30:00 - [7] - Quote Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff wrote: Mmmmmmmmmmm delicious tears from fetal abortion. Yummy What is it with all the fake OH kids being lame trolls? yeah so many tears. Remind me how much you suck again its been 24h since i seen you go negative. CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP RUST415 349	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:37:00 - [8] - Quote You need to be a very skilled with a PCL to cause those damage, and is very dificult to hit a Dropship, with a forja just aim the target and release.. boom... hit... but with PCL you need calculate the curved trajectory and the time to fire. -- Ecce Initio -- Tomate Pote -- *Respectu, Honorem, Value, Unionem*******
Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff US Border Patrol 273	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:41:00 - [9] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff wrote: Mmmmmmmmmmm delicious tears from fetal abortion. Yummy What is it with all the fake OH kids being lame trolls? yeah so many tears. Remind me how much you suck again its been 24h since i seen you go negative. Lol how the mighty fecal abortion fa.gs have fallen Lol negative in a pc? Not new news. You crying about plc...priceless b!tch I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve. McLovin for CPBM2
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 65	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:46:00 - [10] - Quote fallen like every corp you have been in no. was talking about everytime i see you in fw. try harder ladyboy CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage

Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff US Border Patrol 279	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:51:00 - [11] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: fallen like every corp you have been in no. was talking about everytime i see you in fw. try harder ladyboy You are even funnier now cuz you are a clueless. Jajajajajaja jajajajaj Nice try fecal abortion skrub . Can you show me where the mean plc user touched you?got any photos I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve. McLovin for CPBM2
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 854	Posted - 2015.06.25 18:52:00 - [12] - Quote Me and a certain merc used to drive around in a LAV and gank tanks, me as a forgegunner and him with a plasma cannon. The plasma cannon is far superior than the forge at a close range. Maybe the plasma cannon should be a heavy weapon, its certainly huge enough, but then it would need a buff to ammo capacity among other things. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.25 19:04:00 - [13] - Quote That's like saying an AT-4 is a tank gun because it's (I **** you not) 84mm Not caring about KD
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.25 19:05:00 - [14] - Quote It's also ** hitting a non ** fit maddie. Its also the only shield av weapon. Keep your fat sausage fingers away from my baby. I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 8	Posted - 2015.06.25 19:06:00 - [15] - Quote I WISH it did 2k damage. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 705	Posted - 2015.06.25 19:30:00 - [16] - Quote Correction- it does like 1600 damage. Experimental does 1875. 1600 and the projectile takes sometime to reach target. It's balanced. CEO of 48th Special Operations Force Twitter-@48SOF
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 71	Posted - 2015.06.26 04:59:00 - [17] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Correction- it does like 1600 damage. Experimental does 1875. 1600 and the projectile takes sometime to reach target. It's balanced. incorrect splash dam gets added to direct hit. 2000 damage CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 71	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:10:00 - [18] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: That's like saying an AT-4 is a tank gun because it's (I **** you not) 84mm do you mean someone in tank fires it (poking out of hatch) or its an anti tank weapon? both are possible. Or do you mean its literally the gun on a tank. No idea what your point is except quoting the radius of a antivehicle rocket in mm to look knowledgeable. Bruh do you even DFSW? 7 years infantry myself Releveance to dam profile of av weapons versus each other ZERO CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 251	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:26:00 - [19] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? No. Forge gun shots go straight while the PLC has an arc that you must accommodate for as well. Also notable is how the forge gun has a far greater range.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 621	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:29:00 - [20] - Quote Is it true? QQ about PLC? Really? LOL. WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !

Fluffy Exterminatus Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 75	Posted - 2015.06.26 05:38:00 - [21] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? No. Forge gun shots go straight while the PLC has an arc that you must accommodate for as well. Also notable is how the forge gun has a far greater range. Curved trajectory is an arc. ADS is aim down sights. less range but better against infantry and has splash. CCP Rattati - Grand Dragon Wizard of the Gaylente Agenda Touched by his noodly appendage
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy No Context 4	Posted - 2015.06.26 06:28:00 - [22] - Quote Just don't feed the dumbass and he'll go away guys Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons I am the Anti-FoTM
Echo 1991 Dead Man's Game 862	Posted - 2015.06.26 07:51:00 - [23] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Correction- it does like 1600 damage. Experimental does 1875. 1600 and the projectile takes sometime to reach target. It's balanced. incorrect splash dam gets added to direct hit. 2000 damage No it doesnt, do not talk rubbish. It can only deal that much damage to shields and only with 3 damage mods. Wanna play eve?
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 360	Posted - 2015.06.26 08:20:00 - [24] - Quote Thought id never see the day a tread complaining about plc's (lol) The plc is a rocket launcher and u want to put it on the slowest suit in the game why? Its already damn hard to hit people, its a slow projectile. Slower than a forge . Its a shield based weapon and due to maddys at the moment how often do u see gunlogi's General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
Genral69 death Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 360	Posted - 2015.06.26 08:22:00 - [25] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? No. Forge gun shots go straight while the PLC has an arc that you must accommodate for as well. Also notable is how the forge gun has a far greater range. Curved trajectory is an arc. ADS is aim down sights. less range but better against infantry and has splash. The splash damge isn't worth mentioning, what is it 2-3 meters for around 300 damage. Your better of use a re General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 09:21:00 - [26] - Quote See things like this is why people make fun of fa I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:00:00 - [27] - Quote The PLC is the closest AV weapon to actual balance. The forge gun needs work on a couple fronts. Mostly rate of fire, but also the std forge is the hands down worst of the lot. The swarms are a mess. And bluntly that problem goes back to how it was originally designed. Rattati has to work with that mechanical horror and blaming him for it accomplishes jack. The gunnlogi series of HAVs are too squishy currently IMHO to be functionally viable as an independent unit. The lack of parity on av weapons makes it hard to balance, which leads to the removal of profiles idea that most find lackluster. The memory choke on the ps3 keeps av parity from happening. Hopefully SKINS plus cores plus suit flattening and removal of extraneous assets fixes this. AV parity allows rattati to balance things so that minmatar and caldari AV excel smashing armor tanks and utterly suck vs. Shields. It allows the reverse to be true for amarr and gallente. The seeming universal applicability of certain AV options really thoroughly obscures the issues. I am not always fully clear when I explain things. I admit I seem to miss things, but I am keenly aware of issues such as isk cost of vehicles, and I also am fully considering the effect of beefing up av in any way and the effect it will have on dropships. It's why I occasionally (seemingly futilely) ask for dropship pilot input when I'm doing things. Zaria recommended kayru ( am I spelling that right? ) but I can't remember talking to him for any significant length of time. There is no one issue that will bring vehicles and av into a semblance of balance. One of those things is a simple question: Is vehicle driving supposed to be an actual, functional and sustainable role, or are vehicles intended to be immensely expensive temporary power-ups? If it's the former I actually have a lot of ideas. If it's the latter then everything I've cooked up needs a re-think. Unfortunately that question can only really be answered by rattati's team of development crazies. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2015.06.26 10:46:00 - [28] - Quote I'd rather they buff my forge gun personally D:
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:20:00 - [29] - Quote PLC requires more skill imho and has alot less range where it can be used effectively and as such is rewarded with more damage.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.06.26 11:51:00 - [30] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: PLC requires more skill imho and has alot less range where it can be used effectively and as such is rewarded with more damage. It was buffed because ebmven if you COULD AIM like a champ it didn't output enough damage fast enough to do more than irritate a vehicle driver. Using the commando reload bonus (which all of them share) was the only thing providing even a semblance of viability WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6	Posted - 2015.06.26 12:17:00 - [31] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? The Plasma Cannon is the counter to Brick Tanked, Logi supported Sentinels. It has enough drawbacks not to be OP. If you want to discuss this with the Sentinel Community come to The Bastion. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Sardonk Eternia Tiny Universe 332	Posted - 2015.06.26 21:27:00 - [32] - Quote Thinking back to when they added the PLC I never EVER thought I'd see so many posts whining about it. People who kill you with it are good. Just bow down and respect it. Learn to use the weapon. If someone aces you with one, send them a GG mail. Or tears if that's what gets you off. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.06.26 22:15:00 - [33] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? True, but it's all about the damage projection. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.26 23:48:00 - [34] - Quote Do you even lift bro? My scout has always been able to pick up a plasma cannon. Isn't heavy XD TheYoutube XD
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7	Posted - 2015.06.26 23:58:00 - [35] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: That's like saying an AT-4 is a tank gun because it's (I **** you not) 84mm do you mean someone in tank fires it (poking out of hatch) or its an anti tank weapon? both are possible. Or do you mean its literally the gun on a tank. No idea what your point is except quoting the radius of a antivehicle rocket in mm to look knowledgeable. AT4 is for girls. Carl Gustaf is what you should get. Bruh do you even DFSW? 7 years infantry myself Releveance to dam profile of av weapons versus each other ZERO I mean literally a cannon on a tank. If we're judging a weapon by damage per shot, we may as well judge real-life weapons by mm right? Not caring about KD
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.27 00:20:00 - [36] - Quote You know that the only thing that makes PLC 'decent' at AV are super mario bros fits. Without this nintendo BS it is ok. But again. This nintendo BS isn't going anywhere. Loyal to The State Member of : State Protectorate Belongs to : Patriots power bloc Civire Bloodline
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1	Posted - 2015.06.27 01:16:00 - [37] - Quote Get into a 1 vs. 1 fight with a forge while wielding a PLC. There's no casually side stepping a forge round. Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
Yokal Bob Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.27 03:47:00 - [38] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: Proto plc 2k dam .6 charge 3.5 reload Proto fg 1440 4 sec charge 4rds 6sec reload? ass fg 1500 with 3 sec charge but cant hold Swarm is 330 x4 i think so 1320ish 25% more dam with better rpm and every liitle scout and cdo has 1. yes i know +-10% shields/armor but another 10% cdo gtfo. Either reduce dam or make it a heavy weapon. yes it has curved trajectory but it has small ads fg doesnt. Other weapons have 10% increase between std and proto but plc over 25%. Is this is intentional to make better at av while making it op or screw up? If your going by damage then nova knives would have to class as a heavy weapon too xD - darn those min scouts Vote Dust for PS4
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.27 03:59:00 - [39] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Is it true? QQ about PLC? Really? LOL. What a time to be alive Lucent Echelon Chat Channel is fixed
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 630	Posted - 2015.06.27 04:05:00 - [40] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: Is it true? QQ about PLC? Really? LOL. What a time to be CPM2 Yes, what a time. Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3

Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.27 04:14:00 - [41] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Just don't feed the dumbass and he'll go away guys Dammit was just about to Inb4 Lugmos.... (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Loyal Glasses G.L.O.R.Y 80	Posted - 2015.06.27 13:18:00 - [42] - Quote Aidualc wrote: You need to be a very skilled with a PCL to cause those damage, and is very dificult to hit a Dropship, with a forja just aim the target and release.. boom... hit... but with PCL you need calculate the curved trajectory and the time to fire. Or lshoot next to them, I like to snipe with the PLC though. Glasses of the Loyal Variety > "The dead are notoriously unproductive "
Yokal Bob Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.06.27 13:41:00 - [43] - Quote noob cavman wrote: It's also ** hitting a non ** fit maddie. Its also the only shield av weapon. Keep your fat sausage fingers away from my baby. Please keep at least the first letters of the naughty starred out words in so that simple minded people can work out what naughty words you are saying. The rest of us can just look at the sentence structure but meh! Vote Dust for PS4
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 739	Posted - 2015.06.27 14:34:00 - [44] - Quote Fluffy Exterminatus wrote: scout runs up 1 plc rd 3 av grenades reload plc rd and tank dead before hardeners activate or can move 30m. if shield tank just keep hitting with plc. I lost a couple brain cells just trying to read that. If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident. probably.
Raven-747 WarRavens D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 68	Posted - 2015.06.27 17:54:00 - [45] - Quote Jadek Manaheim wrote: Valid points, but it's also a little trickier to snipe people and vehicles at range with a plasma cannon. But it is pretty good at close range which is all luck for FG. You can complain all you want about lasers. Despite the nerfs it will rip you to shreds.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.06.27 18:05:00 - [46] - Quote Yeah, this is a effect of letting scouts carry and all weapons a medium can + myos. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.06.28 01:38:00 - [47] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, this is a effect of letting scouts carry and all weapons a medium can + myos. An effect. Any and all. Medium suits can also equip myofibs. Logic meltdown imminent. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.06.29 07:44:00 - [48] - Quote Raven-747 wrote: Jadek Manaheim wrote: Valid points, but it's also a little trickier to snipe people and vehicles at range with a plasma cannon. But it is pretty good at close range which is all luck for FG. you can jump+sidestep a PLC projectile. you cant evade a well aimed forge gun. so I would say, they are both about equal in CQC.


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