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Joseph Ridgeson
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:41:00 -
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Probably Nemesis is my bet.
Which should worry you anyway. When people found out that Legion was going to be a completely separate game (but still transition 'everything applicable'? What? Huh?), there was an immediate realization that DUST was screwed as attention was going to be split between Legion and DUST. Nemesis is doing that again. Either way, how insane/stupid is CCP's marketing/budget team to go "you know who should totally handle a new, unreleased project? The guys already working on a new, unreleased project."
This is going to be a digression:
CCP, Rattai, Rouge, Hilmar, anyone reading this. I want you to understand something.
This is the kind of stuff that we have gone to in order to get any kind of information about this game or any possibility of transition. We look into your people on Linkedin, find even the smallest bit of potential information, and swing wild with possibilities. Read these posts. They aren't negative, not really. These are people that are all steeped deep into your game, true fans. We all want to know if this game will continue on to be what it was meant to be. I'm sorry if that is being demanding but you guys announced it a year ago saying "we cannot make DUST 514 as we wanted it unless it is on PC." No, I am not talking about "when are we going to PC?!" or "PC MASTER RACE!" or "PS4 LI4E!" because it isn't necessary. You, CCP, said "we have to do something big." A year later, there is almost no mention of that big.
Not Jadek Menaheim posts that, Page 51, and we all realize what this could mean. "We have our big! We finally got it!" We even had some fun doing a Forum Game getting to 10 pages to see the footage. This is the dedication and fun your players have with your game.
What was the footage we were after? 4 seconds. We were happy for those 4 seconds. Beyond that, we have Aeon Amadi going even further for the HD quality.
We all really, really care about your game. We want to see it improved, no matter what that is. We want to know if that big will ever happen. All of this is not because of the angry "you done f'ed it up!" or bitter resentment, at least not most of it.
It is done because we really do care and want to know what is going to happen with a game that many of us bought PS3's just to play. We continue to play on systems that are old enough to start being introduced to simple algebra (Fourth grade) because we like your game.
I don't expect this to even matter but you have to understand how much we like your product and want to see it press forward. I am one of those people that just goes "you done f'ed it up!", my signature is my exact reaction to the DUST 514 Keynote though paraphrased from boogie2988's 'Francis'; I still find time to care enough about your game to go to EVE Vegas every year despite not having played EVE in since 2010. Aeon Amadi is, well, just look at this thread. Dennie continues to run DUST Uni, goes to FanFest cosplaying as a DUST merc despite him knowing 100% that DUST was going to have zero, zilch presence at the show. Soraya Xel opens up in support of DUST and willingly becomes a point of fun laughter. I don't even need to mention what Jadek has done...
Hell, we care so much as to give really well thought out ideas on how to be able to get more out of the game based on the dated hardware it is on.
Seriously, this is your player base, your customers. The ups and downs this game has gone through and you still have that loyalty. Just please don't think that we "don't need to know anything" or that the complete lack of information has not caused us personal strife.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Joseph Ridgeson
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Posted - 2015.06.27 10:10:00 -
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At work, on phone so I cannot quote Dennie nor be sure of proper spelling. 'Appleologies'
I respect the hell out of you Dennie, I like you. Yes, saying "CCP never talks" is a fallacy but the biggest thing they are silent on is "will our game still be here in two months? A year?" We don't need much:
"We screwed up hard in 2014. Legion/DUST is still in development. We just have nothing to say at this time. We will lef you know if that ever changes." Yes, they need to repeat that.
Remember that it is all fear. "They announced Nemesis because they wanted to test the waters." They did that with Legion, basically testing the waters by giving DUST an anchor to swim with. Fear, remember. "Oh crap! CCP saw that we hated Legion (actually how it was announced), so no more DUST?"
Thanks for posting here mate. I am sure you are frustrated as well, I certainly know that at least another CPM is.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Joseph Ridgeson
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Posted - 2015.06.28 04:41:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote: CCP knows there is no support from the community or the CPM for the silent treatment. They are in no doubt of that believe me. But right now I think they'd rather soak up community frustrations with no announcement till there's something to announce than deal with disappointing the community with an announcement that they later can't keep.
Haven't they done both though? At this point, I don't see how talking about something that was already announced can cause damage even if it later turns out "oops, sorry."
1. Remaining Silent to not cause disappointment causes frustration. I am sure they are aware of this.
2. Breaking Silence can cause disappointment if they later announce "oops, sorry." They are afraid of this.
'Legion' was already announced and now there being 'nothing to show from it' (it isn't out yet, we don't see behind the scenes) this causes massive disappointment. One for the people who want to play DUST/Legion but can't (EVE bros, people whose PS3 died, etc) and the other for people who are waiting for the axe to fall on a game they really like (basically all of us).
The frustration from not speaking comes out naturally, so I don't need to go into it.
Basically, the damage of disappointment is already done. If you start talking about Legion, even "it is really far off, we are looking into it. Honestly, we don't even know how or if we want to continue" or something like that isn't going to cause anymore disappointment because the people who are going to be disappointed are already super disappointed. If they at least speak, and speak carefully, they can potentially cause less frustration while having no potential disappointment.
I mean this quite honestly; "At this point, with the people playing DUST being almost entirely 'bitter vets' that are disappointed and/or frustrated, what is the harm about trying to alleviate that frustration at the risk of disappointing the already super disappointed?"
^ that is a source of frustration itself: "alright, so it was too early to say anything. Well, how about now? *several months later* Now? *one year later* Now?"
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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