DUST Search - FW PLAYERS UNITE! DONT LET CCP+CPM FOOL YOU!

Mina Longstrike wrote:

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

A very good point. Qsyncing FW battles is standard practice on both sides.
That truly is what players and the FW community want.

I'd say the amount of players that actually want q-syncing to be a thing is on the smaller end. It's mostly just the people who do it currently, and of course they'd tell you that q-syncing should remain a thing, because there's an absolutely ****ing massive conflict of interest present.

"I q-sync and I win like all my battles all the time! In like three weeks I was able to get 200-300k (or more!) lp for [faction]. How is this not a good thing!" is not an uncommon story for those that are benefiting most from the blatant abuse of FW's lack of matchmaking and failure to put q-syncs up against each other.

If you can consistently pull that sort of result out something is ****ing broken.

I want casual players to be able to play faction warfare with relatively low levels of organization without getting their **** RUINED by groups like Kirjuun Saaja/STF, Lucent echelon, Pie Ground Control, etc. This is not, nor has it ever been the case, hell its hard enough to just get by in pubs as a casual player (because a single 6 man squad can destroy a pub match too!, let alone an organized group of 16).

This game has had plenty of things ruined or dominated by special (sekrit) clubs for far too long. If we don't do something that allows more people to play without getting terribly frustrated, dust is unlikely to live to be ported.

Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.


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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 15:44:00 - [1] - Quote This is a call for all FW players, we must unite to stop CCP+CPM from doing a huge mistake with the next update. What is it that we all want? What is it that we are looking for? What is it that would make our all lives in FW easier? It is one and only one thing that the CPM and CCP are trying to reserve for Planetary Conquest. This my friends is Team Deploy, CCP put out a new Devblog with PC changes and squad size changes. The ironic things is that CCP is trying to tell us how it would make our lives better in FW. What CCP havent typed on the Devblog is that the one thing that we all want will not be avaible for us but rather will only be avaible for Planetary concquest. The Squad changes will be the following: Fireteam= 4 palyers (can enter pubs, FW and PC) Squad= 8 players (can enter FW and PC) *Platoon= 16 players (CAN ONLY ENTER PC MATCHES)* This is a huge mistake and i assume that either CCP or CPM is to blame for this. We the FW players had enough, the years without beeing aible to team deploy and now you implement it but refuse to let them join FW matches? Seriously who came up with this? Every FW player wants team deploy but yet you screw it up. With this one blog ive lost my faith in CCP and the CPM. Proof of the fail: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/67321/1/pic6.png Full devblog: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2015/06/introducing-warlords-1.2-planetary-conquest-revamp/ PS: if this is a pic work in progress and we get team deploy for FW at the release i will forgive CCP+CPM. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 15:48:00 - [2] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: CCP introduces multiple positive changes CCP makes a tweakable decision on Team Deploy Bright Cloud disagrees with this theory, and thus CCP is a failure of a company Yeah... okay. No im upset that team deploy has to be tweaked to begin with. It should be there for FW from the get go cause i certainly dont want to wait like 3 months+ till things get changed. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 15:59:00 - [3] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: It is probably a balance issue - If everyone team deploys, queue times for non-corp (and Non American, really) players go through the roof. Additionally, Platoons may completely destroy match quality for teams with fewer than 16 players who also want to try out FW (maybe for lore reasons). We can't have pre-end game modes that are completely blocked off to new players, otherwise new players go from "Easier pubs" to "Soul Crushing FW" with no middle ground FW is allready a que sync mania. We are tired from this bollocks that we need to q-sync squads to begin with. Yeah we will "only" need 2 squads to q-sync in the future instead of 3 (2X6 man squad and a 4 man squad). Yet it is still one squad leader too much for this. If we allready get the option to team deploy then allow it for FW FFS. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 16:04:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: While I absolutely agree FW should have team deploy, don't you think you're taking this a little hard? Maybe but otherwise nobody will give a damn. The FW community is waiting way too long for this and it is a pity that they are making it PC only. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 16:14:00 - [5] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: While I absolutely agree FW should have team deploy, don't you think you're taking this a little hard? Maybe but otherwise nobody will give a damn. The FW community is waiting way too long for this and it is a pity that they are making it PC only. WL 1.2 will probably be released in two weeks. Why don't you make a compelling argument in favor of Platoons in FW, and address concerns of such a change in your post? Cause i dont need a argument due to the obvious fact that we all want it since day 1 when FW started. CCP can see that by the amount of q-synced squads going into FW. It is a basic understanding that FW is not supposed to be a friendly playground Ratatti made that clear when he pointed it out that the Public matchmaking does not apply to FW Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Sure. So let's conduct a civilised campaign to get 16 man teams into FW, rather than call CCP out as a failure of a company. As someone who runs a major FW channel I'm happy that we're at least getting 8 man squads. That's an improvement. It needs to be upped to 16, certainly, but it is still an improvement. Because playing the nice guy isnt my role on the forum. And i havent called CCP out as a failure just that the decision they make is wrong and rage inducing for the FW community. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 16:20:00 - [6] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: The future squad setup is a huge improvement of what we currently have, so it's hardly a failure. Sure, it would be nice to not have to q-sync at all, but I don't think today's FW is in a good state to introduce it. It would actually boost the popularity quite a bit. Cause then you could make your own team and deploy into FW without having to rely on randoms. Corps would support FW much more as they do now or even create FW specific corps for each faction to then deploy as a single loyalist corp. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 18:07:00 - [7] - Quote Squagga wrote: I had no idea this was only for PC. This should definitely be for FW. I don't think it should be for pubs Nobody wants that for pubs, we want it for FW. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.24 19:16:00 - [8] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: Bright Cloud wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: While I absolutely agree FW should have team deploy, don't you think you're taking this a little hard? Maybe but otherwise nobody will give a damn. The FW community is waiting way too long for this and it is a pity that they are making it PC only. Queue syncing is an endemic problem to faction warfare and it's tantamount to abuse of the system. If you think a 6 man squad dominates a pub match (which they often do) surely the effect must be dramatically exaggerated for the 16man q-syncs that go on in FW. Q-syncs in FW are no issue they are working as intended. I dont understand why we dont get this for FW. Most FPS games let you fill one side with your players so why is CCP actively pushing against this? Dont they want teamwork? And you have to understand that FW is the closest thing to a PC match as you can get. -better salvage -winner gets rewarded and the loser gets shafted -higher risk of dying Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.25 08:40:00 - [9] - Quote Mina Longstrike wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: A very good point. Qsyncing FW battles is standard practice on both sides. That truly is what players and the FW community want. I'd say the amount of players that actually want q-syncing to be a thing is on the smaller end. It's mostly just the people who do it currently, and of course they'd tell you that q-syncing should remain a thing, because there's an absolutely ing massive conflict of interest present. "I q-sync and I win like all my battles all the time! In like three weeks I was able to get 200-300k (or more!) lp for [faction]. How is this not a good thing!" is not an uncommon story for those that are benefiting most from the blatant abuse of FW's lack of matchmaking and failure to put q-syncs up against each other. If you can consistently pull that sort of result out something is **ing broken. I want casual players to be able to play faction warfare with relatively low levels of organization without getting their RUINED** by groups like Kirjuun Saaja/STF, Lucent echelon, Pie Ground Control, etc. This is not, nor has it ever been the case, hell its hard enough to just get by in pubs as a casual player (because a single 6 man squad can destroy a pub match too!, let alone an organized group of 16). This game has had plenty of things ruined or dominated by special (sekrit) clubs for far too long. If we don't do something that allows more people to play without getting terribly frustrated, dust is unlikely to live to be ported. Solo plaers belong to pubs, not FW. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 19:08:00 - [10] - Quote The people that are against Team deploy and think solo players matter are just simply wrong. Solo players allways get shafted, they dont contribute anything, they just get farmed allready when they are facing q-syncs that we have today. Nothing would change apart that the people that actually want to work together have less of a headache managing their team. Another thing is the team deploy would allow you to que for all 4 factions at once with all 16 players going into the same match. If you are against team deploy then you are a unsocial twatt refusing to play with others. You the solo player should be playing a pub match and not FW. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.

Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.26 20:39:00 - [11] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: TBH the 16 man squad would be great for fw... IMO... Instead of having to que for battle at the same time you all get deployed. Thats what the lonely scrubs are against. Screw the solo player more power to FW channels and dedicated FW corps. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.