DUST Search - Tactics and crutches: An open discusion

PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:

Thokk Nightshade wrote:

PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:

If im doing my job by playing towards my advantages thats not crutch-play its tactical play. If you use grenades or REs as your primary that is crutch-play. To stop the fight before it even starts just to avoid any sort of confrontation is crutch-play. If your grouped up in a narrow room and my team needs distraction to push, using REs to clear out the groups is not crutch-play its tactical play. Now using REs for 1 guy is using REs as primary, crutch-play.

If you cant survive on your own without being surrounded by bodyguards its crutch-play. Narrow corridor, sent with hmg scout with REs MDs = tactical play. Open maps, cloak, RR, SCR SR (non RL) = tactical play. Camping a roof with five other people with tons of equipment = crutch-play.

All of this thanks to MHO. Nothing more except how i see it, if im wrong convince me differently.

Why is using RE's as a primary crutch play? My gun game sucks and I'm not afraid to admit it. So if I can lure you into a trap and blow you up with an RE, I'm going to do it. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Because on an Adv Cal Logi suit, I can throw out 90 RE's without having to hit a supply depot. If it will help my team win, I will absolutely spam the **** out of it.

You have convinced me differently, its so many things to cover but using traps is tactical. Are you trying to improve your gungame? I admit my gungame sucks as well but i want to be able to kill someone with my gun if needed. As a scout i can only engage certain targets safely, other scouts usually or weakened distracted targets. Safe is a relative term considering i operate where persistent reds are.

The logi is a super weak HP class. So as scout, you have to kill quickly cause its guaranteed they'll kill you. I'm mainly talking about that assault on reps and will core nade you EVERY TIME you encounter him. Shutting engagements down is for weaker classes, not some guy you won't even try to shoot back.

So i salute you, cal logi is rare, o7. And slay well.


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Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 912	Posted - 2015.06.24 00:11:00 - [1] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: If im doing my job by playing towards my advantages thats not crutch-play its tactical play. If you use grenades or REs as your primary that is crutch-play. To stop the fight before it even starts just to avoid any sort of confrontation is crutch-play. If your grouped up in a narrow room and my team needs distraction to push, using REs to clear out the groups is not crutch-play its tactical play. Now using REs for 1 guy is using REs as primary, crutch-play. If you cant survive on your own without being surrounded by bodyguards its crutch-play. Narrow corridor, sent with hmg scout with REs MDs = tactical play. Open maps, cloak, RR, SCR SR (non RL) = tactical play. Camping a roof with five other people with tons of equipment = crutch-play. All of this thanks to MHO. Nothing more except how i see it, if im wrong convince me differently. Why is using RE's as a primary crutch play? My gun game sucks and I'm not afraid to admit it. So if I can lure you into a trap and blow you up with an RE, I'm going to do it. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Because on an Adv Cal Logi suit, I can throw out 90 RE's without having to hit a supply depot. If it will help my team win, I will absolutely spam the **** out of it. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Thokk Nightshade Montana Militia 919	Posted - 2015.06.24 07:44:00 - [2] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Thokk Nightshade wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: If im doing my job by playing towards my advantages thats not crutch-play its tactical play. If you use grenades or REs as your primary that is crutch-play. To stop the fight before it even starts just to avoid any sort of confrontation is crutch-play. If your grouped up in a narrow room and my team needs distraction to push, using REs to clear out the groups is not crutch-play its tactical play. Now using REs for 1 guy is using REs as primary, crutch-play. If you cant survive on your own without being surrounded by bodyguards its crutch-play. Narrow corridor, sent with hmg scout with REs MDs = tactical play. Open maps, cloak, RR, SCR SR (non RL) = tactical play. Camping a roof with five other people with tons of equipment = crutch-play. All of this thanks to MHO. Nothing more except how i see it, if im wrong convince me differently. Why is using RE's as a primary crutch play? My gun game sucks and I'm not afraid to admit it. So if I can lure you into a trap and blow you up with an RE, I'm going to do it. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Because on an Adv Cal Logi suit, I can throw out 90 RE's without having to hit a supply depot. If it will help my team win, I will absolutely spam the ** out of it. You have convinced me differently, its so many things to cover but using traps is tactical. Are you trying to improve your gungame? I admit my gungame sucks as well but i want to be able to kill someone with my gun if needed. As a scout i can only engage certain targets safely, other scouts usually or weakened distracted targets. Safe is a relative term considering i operate where persistent reds are. The logi is a super weak HP class. So as scout, you have to kill quickly cause its guaranteed they'll kill you. I'm mainly talking about that assault on reps and will core nade you EVERY TIME you encounter him. Shutting engagements down is for weaker classes, not some guy you won't even try to shoot back. So i salute you, cal logi is rare, o7. And slay well. Yeah, I am working on my gun game. I just can't seem to figure out these damn wiggle wiggle strafers that have become so prevelant (THAT ** is a crutch if we are talking crutches). I just know if I get into a 1 v 1 gun game against one I will lose 99% of those so i lure them into a trap instead. Hopefully once Rattati implements the strafe decrease that becomes less of an issue. On top of that, being Caldari, I am a RR guy so at close encounters I am already at a disadvantage. I do have CR at level 5 as well and if I run in a different suit (Calmando or Calassault), I am not relying on the RE's nearly as much. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.