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abdullah muzaffar
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:29:00 -
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This game has been too much for me. Today I quit dust. Countless hours wasted.
This game has no future, i see nothing changing, just right now i came out of a match, where there was constant proto usage on each side, i lost about 10 suits, the lag was everpresent, and yet the enemy somehow spawned in proto after proto. Losing 1m trying, getting top 3, and what do i get paid? A paltry 250k. Swarm launchers obliterating every DS, Madrugars and Proto Gunnlogis standing invincible. My FG unable to take down any. Redline snipers, Heavies with Snipers getting kills without risk.
Every match, countless blueberries straight from the acadeemy on our side, not bothering with the objective, while i keep pushing and pushing, my wallet suffers. What do i get? An insignificant amount of isk for trying. Sometimes i might join at the end, the battle even or our side losing, i still try, losing a protosuit or two in the process, a few adv suits, a few officer weapons. Yet the payout is still inequal to my efforts. Joining near the end, getting 10 kills, losing a few suits, each a 100k, is completely disappointing.
Barely any actual patches, fixing the op, yet skins after skins, aur sinks after aur sinks getting revealed. CCP once said that choice matters in the eve universe. And then they introduced respecs. Every person, now with a gallogi, a galscout, an amsalt, a madrugar, hopping to every new fotm. People buying combat packs with no care for isk, able to protostomp all the time. They don't care that their payout is low or not, they can keep trying for their team. Triple stacking boosters getting an obnoxious amount of sp every week, while the rest are barely progressing. APEX Skins for new players, yet i see the opposite effect. No risk.
FW Matches are now impossible to get into if you live anywhere other than the US. Waking up all night just to get into a few matches is not worth it. Losing gives you barely anything, a suit or two, no standings. Winning too is still not profitable enough, for the effort you put in. Most of the times either side lacks any competiiton, blueberries/redberies not knowing what an objective is.
On to PC, the worst lag ever, having to constantly reset, DC's everywhere, Only a mil or two payout is nothing. Most of the times, you spend 3-5m(Even moreso for vehicles). Even winning does not usually give enough of a reward. FOTM, abusable tactics being seen everywhere. Sometimes, you might wake up at 3 am for a PC, just to find its a noshow, and leave disappointed. The FF mechanic limits the use of explosives in this mode, Mass Drivers give you more friendly kills than enemy.
The gameplay itself is terrible, strafing easily abusable(not only on minassaults, but on every frame except heavies). There is rarely any actual legit strafing going on, just the wiggle wiggle. Shots missing, snipers headglitching, or the dmg not registering. FGs/PLC barely scaring any tanks, while AV nages and Swarms shred them. Scans everywhere, yet no links or nanos. Amarr sentinel still the #1 Heavy, yet nothing has been done about it. The minsents gimped speeds being the only of its class compared to the heavy. Minscouts the supposed to be speedhackers, are outperformed at that role by galscouts, which can actually damp enough to be of any use. An ishukone ARR doing almost the same dps as an AR, yet having twice the Range. Getting killed after turning the corner by a RR. The CR's ability to shred armor pales in comparison to that of the SCR to shields.
The NPE is still terrible, players enjoying the academy thrown to the sharks as fodder, only after a couple of matches. Matchmaking, Team-balancing having no effect, joining midgame, Players leaving every time, and there is a reason, thier efforts are usually not rewarded. Why try when you dont gain anything. Why waster your isk? Your time? Your efforts?
Perhaps the only good memories i have in this game was making friends, having fun with them. But its time for me to go. I've had enough. o/
IJR took my soul. RIP 20/3/15 5:14
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:30:00 -
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But.... The event. . |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:37:00 -
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So can I have your isk?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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dy5t0pia
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:40:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:So can I have your isk?
^This.
CPM 2 Candidate ~ Director of Internal Error.
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abdullah muzaffar
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:41:00 -
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dy5t0pia wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:So can I have your isk? ^This. Dust->EvE
IJR took my soul. RIP 20/3/15 5:14
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Interstellar Marine
Ishukone Nova Knives
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:02:00 -
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o/ Just take a brake.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:08:00 -
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abdullah muzaffar wrote:dy5t0pia wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:So can I have your isk? ^This. Dust->EvE Buuut...Can I have your isk? I'm literally living/dying paycheck to paycheck.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Michael Epic
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:11:00 -
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So basically what you're saying is this game is too hard for you and you're going to play something easier where you feel more important?
Sorry bro, that's what I got out of the book you wrote.
Michael Epic's "EPIC" Proposal to his girlfriend :D
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:11:00 -
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Meh agree with half, disagree with half
FW definantly needs changing, likewise I'm not waking up at stupid times just to get a game in. My FG kicks *** same as my swarms
I'm not really fussed about redline snipers anymore, range got nerfed and with almost every match ending in a redline I can't blame them. Especially when people can't even get out of the redline because people constantly run in trapping people who don't have the forsight to go around them.
Too many people complain about proto, its annoying, its squads that are OP against randoms and matchmaking.
Anyway good luck wherever you go.
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Vote Dust for PS4
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VAHZZ
Liquid.Hound
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:11:00 -
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I love you though...
GÖ¢ Soon, we shall meet again, in a galaxy far, far away. GÖ¢
Scouts United
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:18:00 -
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I had surgery and was planning on coming back..this was like 3-4 weeks ago..then I thought why bother? And I was told pc2.0 and once again I asked what does that matter? "ISK"...okay well I'm sorry I have enough ISK and nothing worth buying I have spent the last 4 years playing this game and now it's no longer competitive...pubs if you manage to get a match that isn't 4v12 then you or the enemy only have 2-3 players trying to get the objective and the other players hiding so they can continue to statpad FW is a joke
This last week in the gears of war beta has shown me something..dust sucks now and isn't fun...they have fixed this game a lot but it's too late now, the competitive players have already moved on
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.06.23 17:18:00 -
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In the EU, FW battles are usually in the morning, no?
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:02:00 -
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Opened this thread expecting unintelligible garbage.....
Left with a sense of "Yea man.... I know what you mean"
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Dust User
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:43:00 -
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I guess this means Random Gunz will have to rely on one more ringer than usual. |
The KTM DuKe
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:49:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:In the EU, FW battles are usually in the morning, no? It s about a week ( EOM fix) that you can find fw earlier ( 15 EVE sometimes) . The actual problem of FW are one sided match, when i play solo i always fight q-syncs in which my bluebarries snipes or play militia, it s not fun especially when 12 people are looking for 1.
"Have fun and don't be an aGÇóGÇó hole" zaria min deir. \o/
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Boot Booter
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:54:00 -
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As much as I hate this type of post, the op makes some good points. That being said I'd like to remind you its a game... A GAME. Stop taking every bug and imbalance so seriously and try to enjoy the simple pleasure of shooting fellow gamers in the face. |
Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:09:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:As much as I hate this type of post, the op makes some good points. That being said I'd like to remind you its a game... A GAME. Stop taking every bug and imbalance so seriously and try to enjoy the simple pleasure of shooting fellow gamers in the face. I think that's the point of quiting? The game is not enjoyable for everyone
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:19:00 -
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Just take a break like I do occasionally. You'll find that it helps clear your mind and then you'll come back for more. I've been playing Splatoon and Super Smash Bros on the WiiU for a while now. Come to think of it, Splatoon is starting to remind me of Dust. Bad matchmaking, occasional disconnects due to lag, OP weapons, staggered content releases, and constantly seeing players from other regions which would explain the lag.
At least Dust's events don't get postponed at the last minute like what happened to Splatfest.
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SLENDER M4N
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:19:00 -
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Heimdoll you wanna watch some hentai later?
Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3
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Deputy Ivanna JakinUnoff
US Border Patrol
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:22:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Boot Booter wrote:As much as I hate this type of post, the op makes some good points. That being said I'd like to remind you its a game... A GAME. Stop taking every bug and imbalance so seriously and try to enjoy the simple pleasure of shooting fellow gamers in the face. I think that's the point of quiting? The game is not enjoyable for everyone
Any negative feed back guys interested in buying some skin? I heard a lot of them were in the market for one last nite
I'm not the CPBM that you need or want, But the one you deserve.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:31:00 -
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True. kinda starting to question this
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.23 20:31:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:So basically what you're saying is this game is too hard for you and you're going to play something easier where you feel more important? Sorry bro, that's what I got out of the book you wrote.
Love it when idiots reply. That's not what he said at all. He is echoing the thoughts of all the other players leaving or thinking about it. The game is not hard. Its a FPS game not real life, so its never going to be hard. He is smart enough to figure out if you want game balance or support from the developer this game is not the place to find it. Two years and bleeding players like a stab wound because of the issues that should have been fixed months ago is a really good reason to find something else to do with your time. |
DJinn Proteus
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.23 20:34:00 -
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LOL..i killed him with a Kalante (a few times) on my main/... I followed his trail of tears from the match here..
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DJinn Proteus
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.23 20:35:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:Michael Epic wrote:So basically what you're saying is this game is too hard for you and you're going to play something easier where you feel more important? Sorry bro, that's what I got out of the book you wrote. Love it when idiots reply. That's not what he said at all. He is echoing the thoughts of all the other players leaving or thinking about it. The game is not hard. Its a FPS game not real life, so its never going to be hard. He is smart enough to figure out if you want game balance or support from the developer this game is not the place to find it. Two years and bleeding players like a stab wound because of the issues that should have been fixed months ago is a really good reason to find something else to do with your time.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.23 21:35:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:So basically what you're saying is this game is too hard for you and you're going to play something easier where you feel more important? Sorry bro, that's what I got out of the book you wrote. Nah
Playing for sp when theres no fun doing so is pointless
When the person playing dust 514 pauses and says bro its not fun anymore then its time to move on to another game
Theres a reason PlayStation four is selling a lot Theres a reason PlayStation four games are selling a lot
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.23 22:00:00 -
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What you say is true OP. Just take breaks like other people said. I personally play this game only 6 matches per week. I am still here because of the hope it still has to be a great game. Only a hope.
Amarr Victor
Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.23 22:03:00 -
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Some personal details aside, I agree with most of the OP's points. But much is icing on the cake in comparison to CCP's inability to resolve most of the latency/framerate/lag issues. If my team is redlined, I can sneak past and take out the marauding protobears, but I can't do so if the element of surprise, gungame, and mobility is entirely negated by "lag". I'm made a sitting turkey on the highway in my scout suit. Freeze frames not only in FW and PC, but in every pub match.
That's when I find something else to do. Not feeding into the meatgrinder. The player is supposed to have fun, not give others satisfaction as another 50+ at one's own expense, for whatever reason tied to playerbase depravity, developer ineptitude, or persisting software issues.
Oh, and the event can go f*ck itself if it doesn't make the game any more enjoyable.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.23 22:04:00 -
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Don't biomass!
Rattati put up a Dev Feedback thread on the topic of Isk Payouts a couple months back. If nothing else, he is aware of the issue.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.24 00:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Don't biomass!
Rattati put up a Dev Feedback thread on the topic of Isk Payouts a couple months back. If nothing else, he is aware of the issue.
FYI they are aware of everything
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MrCriminal High Power
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Posted - 2015.06.24 00:08:00 -
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Can I have all of you stuff including isk.
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El Diablo 666
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
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Posted - 2015.06.24 00:44:00 -
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goodbye and goodluck on your next adventure.
I'm the biggest Dustard in the universe!!!
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.24 01:59:00 -
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abdullah muzaffar wrote:This game has been too much for me. Today I quit dust. Countless hours wasted.
This game has no future, i see nothing changing, just right now i came out of a match, where there was constant proto usage on each side, i lost about 10 suits, the lag was everpresent, and yet the enemy somehow spawned in proto after proto. Losing 1m trying, getting top 3, and what do i get paid? A paltry 250k. Swarm launchers obliterating every DS, Madrugars and Proto Gunnlogis standing invincible. My FG unable to take down any. Redline snipers, Heavies with Snipers getting kills without risk.
Every match, countless blueberries straight from the acadeemy on our side, not bothering with the objective, while i keep pushing and pushing, my wallet suffers. What do i get? An insignificant amount of isk for trying. Sometimes i might join at the end, the battle even or our side losing, i still try, losing a protosuit or two in the process, a few adv suits, a few officer weapons. Yet the payout is still inequal to my efforts. Joining near the end, getting 10 kills, losing a few suits, each a 100k, is completely disappointing.
Barely any actual patches, fixing the op, yet skins after skins, aur sinks after aur sinks getting revealed. CCP once said that choice matters in the eve universe. And then they introduced respecs. Every person, now with a gallogi, a galscout, an amsalt, a madrugar, hopping to every new fotm. People buying combat packs with no care for isk, able to protostomp all the time. They don't care that their payout is low or not, they can keep trying for their team. Triple stacking boosters getting an obnoxious amount of sp every week, while the rest are barely progressing. APEX Skins for new players, yet i see the opposite effect. No risk.
FW Matches are now impossible to get into if you live anywhere other than the US. Waking up all night just to get into a few matches is not worth it. Losing gives you barely anything, a suit or two, no standings. Winning too is still not profitable enough, for the effort you put in. Most of the times either side lacks any competiiton, blueberries/redberies not knowing what an objective is.
On to PC, the worst lag ever, having to constantly reset, DC's everywhere, Only a mil or two payout is nothing. Most of the times, you spend 3-5m(Even moreso for vehicles). Even winning does not usually give enough of a reward. FOTM, abusable tactics being seen everywhere. Sometimes, you might wake up at 3 am for a PC, just to find its a noshow, and leave disappointed. The FF mechanic limits the use of explosives in this mode, Mass Drivers give you more friendly kills than enemy.
The gameplay itself is terrible, strafing easily abusable(not only on minassaults, but on every frame except heavies). There is rarely any actual legit strafing going on, just the wiggle wiggle. Shots missing, snipers headglitching, or the dmg not registering. FGs/PLC barely scaring any tanks, while AV nades and Swarms shred them. Scans everywhere, yet no links or nanos. Amarr sentinel still the #1 Heavy, yet nothing has been done about it. The minsents gimped speeds being the only of its class compared to the heavy. Minscouts the supposed to be speedhackers, are outperformed at that role by galscouts, which can actually damp enough to be of any use. An ishukone ARR doing almost the same dps as an AR, yet having twice the Range. Getting killed after turning the corner by a RR. The CR's ability to shred armor pales in comparison to that of the SCR to shields.
The NPE is still terrible, players enjoying the academy thrown to the sharks as fodder, only after a couple of matches. Matchmaking, Team-balancing having no effect, joining midgame, Players leaving every time, and there is a reason, thier efforts are usually not rewarded. Why try when you dont gain anything. Why waste your isk? Your time? Your efforts?
Perhaps the only good memories i have in this game was making friends, having fun with them. But its time for me to go. I've had enough. o/
You're absolutely right, this game need's a lot of change's the NPE need's something they can sink their teeth into without raging/trying/leaving all because some guy in a pro suit or just better general weapon control and tactic's (running around the corner to flank your opponent's, running with allies, actual strafing - by this I mean running in and out of cover, not this dancing BS, ACTUAL skill).
CCP is simply taking too long with DUST, I understand that a lot of us are being impatient, but can you blame us? We've been spoiled by game's that have/had actual good gameplay and a lot of these are older game's, game's even from the Ps2 era, I can name quite a few of them. They need a bigger team, and a lot of them need to play this game more, not just 1 person that we know of, (rattati, and to be honest I don't know a lot of the other dev's that play this game or if they even do, if they have, no other player has talked about fragging them in a pub or FW).
Overall I understand you, what I will say though, is keep the game on hard-drive, but play other game's, Ps3/4 game's, PC, anything that can help you take your mind off of your problem's, both real and virtually. You never know when (sorry but I am doubtful) they'll push out another "fix" or just plain over-haul the entire game.
When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
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