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Sicerly Yaw wrote:

Koldy Lyte Marven wrote:

Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes.
After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear).
What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK)

you got a problem with mlt gear? I happen to be able to maintain a positive KD against proto players while being aggressive

no only that but with the right skills a mlt player can own a proto player with dumb investments fairly easy and give those with good skill investment a good fight especially if that mlt user is more skilled then that proto player

also a lot of these "proto" players are really just apex users that die fairly easily due to recklessness because they are in free of cheap suits

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Koldy Lyte Marven DUST University Ivy League 80	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:17:00 - [1] - Quote Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) ( -í° -£-û -í°)
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:26:00 - [2] - Quote You will find it uprising that even with your proto gear you will get owned. There isn't much difference between proto and advanced already , so I fell sorry for you putting your hope in all of the proto gear. Try changing your playstyle , run in squads with people that know what they are doing, maybe join another corp. Just don't post here , it's a waste of time and most of the people will troll the sit put of you. ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) CEO* of Corrosive Synergy I take PLC donations.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 934	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:27:00 - [3] - Quote This ^ "Anybody order chaos?"
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 290	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:32:00 - [4] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) you got a problem with mlt gear? I happen to be able to maintain a positive KD against proto players while being aggressive no only that but with the right skills a mlt player can own a proto player with dumb investments fairly easy and give those with good skill investment a good fight especially if that mlt user is more skilled then that proto player also a lot of these "proto" players are really just apex users that die fairly easily due to recklessness because they are in free of cheap suits
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 290	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:35:00 - [5] - Quote also I've seen plenty of dumb proto scouts (or should I say proto scrubs) try to fool me by standing still when I am using std gear with complex precision enhancers I simply take aim with my bolt pistol to their head or walk to them with my shiny purple chopsticks and 1HKO them
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 832	Posted - 2015.06.18 02:18:00 - [6] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: You will find it uprising that even with your proto gear you will get owned. There isn't much difference between proto and advanced already , so I fell sorry for you putting your hope in all of the proto gear. Try changing your playstyle , run in squads with people that know what they are doing, maybe join another corp. Just don't post here , it's a waste of time and most of the people will troll the sit put of you. ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) It's all about lag. When I have the better ping other players don't even react until I'm half way through them. Usually though it is me with the bad ping (or rather them with bad ping causing them to speed up to load on my screen) and they shoot me while still being behind a wall, only to come out and do the shooty animation on my death screen. The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. Friends are nice, ideas are golden.*
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 8	Posted - 2015.06.18 03:10:00 - [7] - Quote Match making only comes into play when there are two or more lobbies of equal connection status that are favorable to you. This game doesn't have an abundance of players so often you will find that there's only one lobby with favorable connection and others lobbies with a much more mediocre connections. Since this is often the case you will end up in the match with the best connection and match making won't have any affect. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Magewarlord KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 105	Posted - 2015.06.18 03:42:00 - [8] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) I could be mistaken, but I believe matchmaking was intended to be about similar SP levels. meaning one guy could have spent his SP on proto gear while another with the same amount of SP spent their's (wisely) on passive skills. so while the 2 would have different equipment levels, they each invested the same amount differently. go for those passive skills first. you should not spend on more than one suit and one weapon until those are maxed out and max your passives.
VAHZZ Corrosive Synergy No Context 2	Posted - 2015.06.18 03:44:00 - [9] - Quote Hey dude, why bother getting rekt by proto when you can proto yourself dude? It is totally radical and bodacious. Dude, you should harden up yourself and become that bodacious proto dude, dude. epic air guitar riff GÖ¢ Scouts United - Join the Scout channel. GÖ¢
Koldy Lyte Marven DUST University Ivy League 80	Posted - 2015.06.18 11:30:00 - [10] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Hey dude, why bother getting rekt by proto when you can proto yourself dude? It is totally radical and bodacious. Dude, you should harden up yourself and become that bodacious proto dude, dude. epic air guitar riff I spent my Sp on different type of ADV weapons and almost all my core skills are lvl 4 ( -í° -£-û -í°)

jerrmy12 kahoalii G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 12:19:00 - [11] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) CHEEKI BREEKI Closed beta vet. Master troll. No lifer. Master lurker.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 2	Posted - 2015.06.18 12:23:00 - [12] - Quote There are 2 types of players. Those who understand that Dust is a tactical shooter and those who don't. OP is the latter. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Jaesin Woods Wolf Pack Special Forces Immortals of War 5	Posted - 2015.06.18 12:34:00 - [13] - Quote Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) <----- Created an alt the other day, went right on into the academy and started wrecking fools. You don't need proto gear to stump bruh, just the brains and balls it takes to make weight. Don't blame Scotty, he's drunk.
Koldy Lyte Marven DUST University Ivy League 80	Posted - 2015.06.20 02:45:00 - [14] - Quote Magewarlord wrote: Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) I could be mistaken, but I believe matchmaking was intended to be about similar SP levels. meaning one guy could have spent his SP on proto gear while another with the same amount of SP spent their's (wisely) on passive skills. so while the 2 would have different equipment levels, they each invested the same amount differently. go for those passive skills first. you should not spend on more than one suit and one weapon until those are maxed out and max your passives. I'm 100% sure matchmaking isn't based on SP (or maybe there was an error that day) because I one played in the same team as saxonamish. ( -í° -£-û -í°)
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.20 02:53:00 - [15] - Quote Well, they didn't do much to adjust squads - a good 6man squad can still dominate a game... and the reason you're seeing MLT people in 'higher' bracket matches is either because they were in pub squads and got sucked into the high bracket, or they pulled a bunch of scrubby stuff that works well on low bracket people... but doesn't work at all on high bracket people. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven 4	Posted - 2015.06.20 03:19:00 - [16] - Quote I don't believe there really are two separate Mu queues: when my alts got out of the Academy, they were fighting top-tier Proto players every match. patiently waits for Pubs to get Meta-locked Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
SLENDER M4N Xer Cloud Consortium 620	Posted - 2015.06.20 04:46:00 - [17] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: Koldy Lyte Marven wrote: Before matchmaking, I was getting wrecked by Proto dudes. After matchmaking, I'm still getting wrecked by Proto dudes (but less since I got ADV gear). What's the point of matchmaking? I still see dudes with MLT gear fighting dudes with Proto gear in the same match. I don't know what matchmaking is based on but anybody can create a new character with passive SP, come back in like a year and spend his 9M SP (approximatively) to get Proto gear and wreck those academy dudes. This is a long but very easy process. You don't actually need to PLAY the game in order to get better gear. You can just wait and that's it. (Even though you have to fight to get ISK) you got a problem with mlt gear? I happen to be able to maintain a positive KD against proto players while being aggressive no only that but with the right skills a mlt player can own a proto player with dumb investments fairly easy and give those with good skill investment a good fight especially if that mlt user is more skilled then that proto player also a lot of these "proto" players are really just apex users that die fairly easily due to recklessness because they are in free of cheap suits Curse your damn bolt pistol! Our Lord and savior, Munson punched me and RE'd me! I feel loved <3
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 426	Posted - 2015.06.20 04:57:00 - [18] - Quote You are getting wrecked more because of the lack of effort from your teammates more than anything the enemy is using.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.20 05:09:00 - [19] - Quote @ OP Matchmaking works from time-to-time, but I don't think it is working as intended. Rattati recently updated Trello and hinted at changes to squad size. If implemented, these "Fireteams" of 4 might solve some of the quality issues which are being created by larger squads. Hang in there; it'll get better. o7 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 617	Posted - 2015.06.20 07:04:00 - [20] - Quote thor424 wrote: You are getting wrecked more because of the lack of effort from your teammates more than anything the enemy is using. THIS! I love to play proto for one major reason : it looks badass ! But honestly, a good team of STD geared guys could wreck any proto players. The difference isn't as big as it used to be pre Uprising 1.3 (where AA was implemented IIRC). Using proto doesn't make you a better player. Those who say "I lost because he played proto" should've play proto themselves and see if they could've win. But I honestly doubt that. WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOME !

Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 989	Posted - 2015.06.20 07:22:00 - [21] - Quote I have observed a "new" tactic as of late, which might explain why you see BPOs and STD gear in higher tier matches. Shock and Awe. Basically the team goes all-in with full Proto / Officer gear until they break the enemy's will to fight (people leaving, sniping, scattered etc), and then switch to BPOs and APEX suites to "mop up". You notice this by the kill feed. It's highly effective, but can be countered if you just hold it together for the first 2-3 minutes. If they see the tactic does not work, they might be the ones that leave. (Or at least switch down to a more cost effective suite)
Louis Domi Tugastroy 921	Posted - 2015.06.20 09:40:00 - [22] - Quote You get wrecked by proto dudes? Bruh I'm on that getting wrecked by Officer Dudes Get on my level !


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