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Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 96	Posted - 2015.06.17 00:02:00 - [1] - Quote Like seriously, it could definitely fit well if it were just like the PLC and had a large explosion size to boot so as to mitigate the necessary damage, I mean, that was the original concept of the plasma turret in the trailers right? What changed? Besides I'd rather have a tank that does actual splash damage than require it to be a full auto turret, save that for the 20GJ's and like, would be better and much more fun and diverse. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.17 01:15:00 - [2] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Like seriously, it could definitely fit well if it were just like the PLC and had a large explosion size to boot so as to mitigate the necessary damage, I mean, that was the original concept of the plasma turret in the trailers right? What changed? Besides I'd rather have a tank that does actual splash damage than require it to be a full auto turret, save that for the 20GJ's and like, would be better and much more fun and diverse. You are the only other person who seems to have the same views of Blaster Turrets as I do. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 96	Posted - 2015.06.17 02:10:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Like seriously, it could definitely fit well if it were just like the PLC and had a large explosion size to boot so as to mitigate the necessary damage, I mean, that was the original concept of the plasma turret in the trailers right? What changed? Besides I'd rather have a tank that does actual splash damage than require it to be a full auto turret, save that for the 20GJ's and like, would be better and much more fun and diverse. You are the only other person who seems to have the same views of Blaster Turrets as I do. Not sure to be glad or frightened by that fact... When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.17 04:52:00 - [4] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Like seriously, it could definitely fit well if it were just like the PLC and had a large explosion size to boot so as to mitigate the necessary damage, I mean, that was the original concept of the plasma turret in the trailers right? What changed? Besides I'd rather have a tank that does actual splash damage than require it to be a full auto turret, save that for the 20GJ's and like, would be better and much more fun and diverse. You are the only other person who seems to have the same views of Blaster Turrets as I do. Not sure to be glad or frightened by that fact... True Adamance likes to ignore all the times I proposed for the same thing because I'm Gallente and only capable of spewing bias. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.17 04:56:00 - [5] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Like seriously, it could definitely fit well if it were just like the PLC and had a large explosion size to boot so as to mitigate the necessary damage, I mean, that was the original concept of the plasma turret in the trailers right? What changed? Besides I'd rather have a tank that does actual splash damage than require it to be a full auto turret, save that for the 20GJ's and like, would be better and much more fun and diverse. You are the only other person who seems to have the same views of Blaster Turrets as I do. Not sure to be glad or frightened by that fact... True Adamance likes to ignore all the times I proposed for the same thing because I'm Gallente and only capable of spewing bias. Oh god..... Don't worry OP I'll try and communicate with it. U r bi? Eye note undrstnd u? But on a more serious note I'm pretty sure Kirk and I have been on the side of powerful anti tank guns for a very long time now. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1	Posted - 2015.06.17 04:57:00 - [6] - Quote What I would eventually like to see for both handheld weapons and turrets. Basically you would choose the type of turret you want (plasma, rail etc.) And then choose different barrel types which would determine how your weapon fires. Examples: Plasma - Concentrated: Fires a large PLC style blast, but bigger and hella fast - Dispersed: How blasters fire now - Focused: Like a 'Breach' large blaster turret. High DmG, low RoF. Rail - Concentrated: Current Rail Turret - Dispersed: Rapid rail auto-cannon. - Focused: Like a current rail turret, but 25% as powerful, but 4X fire rate. Possibly more splash damage. Less range. The possibilities! Official CPM Platform
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.17 05:28:00 - [7] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: What I would eventually like to see for both handheld weapons and turrets. Basically you would choose the type of turret you want (plasma, rail etc.) And then choose different barrel types which would determine how your weapon fires. Examples: Plasma - Concentrated: Fires a large PLC style blast, but bigger and hella fast - Dispersed: How blasters fire now - Focused: Like a 'Breach' large blaster turret. High DmG, low RoF. Rail - Concentrated: Current Rail Turret - Dispersed: Rapid rail auto-cannon. - Focused: Like a current rail turret, but 25% as powerful, but 4X fire rate. Possibly more splash damage. Less range. The possibilities! So basically The Turret would affect attribute the X value in X + Y = Z equation While the Ammo would affect the Y Value in X + Y = Z? I love something like that but sadly dynamic ammo doesn't exist in this game....sighs maybe one day. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.06.17 05:55:00 - [8] - Quote True you spaghetti-beard-storing pleb, you know my views on this. T_T Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.06.17 07:04:00 - [9] - Quote Dude are you smoking pot? Changing the blaster turret to fire PLC rounds yeah right could we get more ridicoulusly OP ideas please? Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.17 08:39:00 - [10] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Dude are you smoking pot? Changing the blaster turret to fire PLC rounds yeah right could we get more ridicoulusly OP ideas please? You realise that it would not fire Plasma Cannon Rounds automatically from a 75 round magazine don't you? Please tell me you do...... and we can move past this. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.06.17 11:56:00 - [11] - Quote Suggested a while back, that the 'Blaster Turret' should be changed entirely.. Gallente turret - fires Plasma Cannon rounds, small enough clip and delays between shots Current Blaster - edit this and change the DMG profile to an Armour shredder = Minmatar turret @ CCP.. it would take nothing new to make this happen, just changes to what is already here!!!
Jarrel Thomas's SLAVE Carnage Corpse 16	Posted - 2015.06.17 13:10:00 - [12] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Suggested a while back, that the 'Blaster Turret' should be changed entirely.. Gallente turret - fires Plasma Cannon rounds, small enough clip and delays between shots Current Blaster - edit this and change the DMG profile to an Armour shredder = Minmatar turret @ CCP.. it would take nothing new to make this happen, just changes to what is already here!!! Then the CEO would have his 2 ultimate tanking turrets... Alts Unite!
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 720	Posted - 2015.06.17 13:11:00 - [13] - Quote Jarrel Thomas's SLAVE wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Suggested a while back, that the 'Blaster Turret' should be changed entirely.. Gallente turret - fires Plasma Cannon rounds, small enough clip and delays between shots Current Blaster - edit this and change the DMG profile to an Armour shredder = Minmatar turret @ CCP.. it would take nothing new to make this happen, just changes to what is already here!!! Then the CEO would have his 2 ultimate tanking turrets... Shhh your to loud... hail DMG o/ Caldari Loyalist. ( -í° -£-û -í°) They see me rollin they Hating (..) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (..)
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 96	Posted - 2015.06.17 14:45:00 - [14] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Dude are you smoking pot? Changing the blaster turret to fire PLC rounds yeah right could we get more ridicoulusly OP ideas please? It would be like a single fire shotgun, a really big, explosive, shotgun, like a 105mm tank round that's made up of plasma, you know? 1 shot in the magazine then reload. Simple stuff, it wouldn't be OP we've seen how the MD is balanced out, high explosive damage and moderate damage radius (except til you get to officer), it would be the same case as that but opposite, moderate explosive damage and high explosive radius, give it at least a 3-4 second reload time between each shot and boom (no pun intended) instant balance, and not because it only has 1 shot like some other weapon's I know COUGH RODEN SNIPER RIFLE COUGH. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.17 17:22:00 - [15] - Quote If it was one shot per reload that would have to make it more powerful than a rail who has a lot more than 1 round before reload. It should just be a lower RoF and not reload after every shot. Keep in mind this is still a Gallente tank we are talking about. Close range and DPS is the primary focus. I guess you could have both if you wanted. Plasma Turret and Blaster Turret. Blaster would be like our missiles, while plasma turret would be our rails. Caldari get a long range variant and a closer range variant. Plus its more than ideal because the races deal more damage than just one type. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 96	Posted - 2015.06.17 17:27:00 - [16] - Quote Any is fine really, I'm just getting tired of the monotony of seeing the same thing every time, need's diversity, this game. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.06.18 00:48:00 - [17] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Any is fine really, I'm just getting tired of the monotony of seeing the same thing every time, need's diversity, this game. Diversity = good. Talk to some of the other guys and they think diversity is a bad thing. TUNNEL SNAKES RULE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.18 01:13:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Zan Azikuchi wrote: Any is fine really, I'm just getting tired of the monotony of seeing the same thing every time, need's diversity, this game. Diversity = good. Talk to some of the other guys and they think diversity is a bad thing. DIVERSITY IS GOOD, DIVERSITY IS A STRENGTH, DIVERSITY IS WHAT MAKES ________ PEACEFUL. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Lupus Wolf Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2015.06.18 03:37:00 - [19] - Quote Why not both? "Dogfighting with missiles is like watching two armless kids try to catch a baseball." - Dust Fiend
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1	Posted - 2015.06.18 03:50:00 - [20] - Quote There aren't any plasma turrets in the game. The blaster works pretty much like an assault rifle. Only it isn't as good as it has been Nerf Hammered nearly as much. It is better than the militia assault rifle. That much is true. The rail turret works like sniper rifles, firing a slug with a particle accelerator. And missiles don't do either of those. Even if there were plasma turrets, they wouldn't be allowed any splash damage. We used to have splash damage with turrets. A flood of QQ here on the forums and now we don't. So don't expect that to change. At least until we get fragmented missiles back. Which ain't gonna happen either. If it does though, get out your waders cause there is gonna be a flood here in the forums again. Besides, the plasma cannon is the second worst weapon in the game. It is the drunken step-dog of Dust. Useless for 95% of the situations, and the game is better for it. But that's just my opinion. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 19	Posted - 2015.06.18 04:03:00 - [21] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: There aren't any plasma turrets in the game. The blaster works pretty much like an assault rifle. Only it isn't as good as it has been Nerf Hammered nearly as much. It is better than the militia assault rifle. That much is true. The rail turret works like sniper rifles, firing a slug with a particle accelerator. And missiles don't do either of those. Even if there were plasma turrets, they wouldn't be allowed any splash damage. We used to have splash damage with turrets. A flood of QQ here on the forums and now we don't. So don't expect that to change. At least until we get fragmented missiles back. Which ain't gonna happen either. If it does though, get out your waders cause there is gonna be a flood here in the forums again. Besides, the plasma cannon is the second worst weapon in the game. It is the drunken step-dog of Dust. Useless for 95% of the situations, and the game is better for it. But that's just my opinion. Well when you get 5000 armour and the ability to roll around the map virtually unopposed with a supermachinegun.........I think we can afford to have main guns that somewhat function in the manner main tank guns should. "Crush all who complain!" `- Arkena Wyrnspire`
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 96	Posted - 2015.06.19 00:35:00 - [22] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: There aren't any plasma turrets in the game. The blaster works pretty much like an assault rifle. Only it isn't as good as it has been Nerf Hammered nearly as much. It is better than the militia assault rifle. That much is true. The rail turret works like sniper rifles, firing a slug with a particle accelerator. And missiles don't do either of those. Even if there were plasma turrets, they wouldn't be allowed any splash damage. We used to have splash damage with turrets. A flood of QQ here on the forums and now we don't. So don't expect that to change. At least until we get fragmented missiles back. Which ain't gonna happen either. If it does though, get out your waders cause there is gonna be a flood here in the forums again. Besides, the plasma cannon is the second worst weapon in the game. It is the drunken step-dog of Dust. Useless for 95% of the situations, and the game is better for it. But that's just my opinion. Yet it kills EVERYTHING in sight, yeah, I can feel the ignorance off of you, and your in-ability to use the PLC as well, and the fact that you don't believe in that anything can happen in SCI FI FANTASY. If anything the PLC is a very good weapon, people just complain and say it sucks cause it's muzzle velocity is very similar (but still faster) to the MD, that and given the fact that there's far too much strafing (even after the nerf the MIN's still have insane strafe speed and need to be brought down to only being slightly inhuman) is why most gun's suck. But guess what? If someone stay's still, it's the best weapon in the game (bare in mind that weapon range's suck equine genital's horribly, need's more realistic range's and better sci fi range's). When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1	Posted - 2015.06.21 00:10:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Well when you get 5000 armour and the ability to roll around the map virtually unopposed with a supermachinegun.........I think we can afford to have main guns that somewhat function in the manner main tank guns should. 5k armor, who runs that? Way too slow. EHP maybe. @True, how in the world would you be able to convince anyone that a Maddy Blaster is completely unopposed? Certainly you have Lai Dai AV grenades, three of those will kill most tanks. They absolutely will if the tank isn't 100% healthy. And how many tanks are 100% with the modules that require us to retreat from the battle so they will cool down. But we tankers are coming up against Scouts with 1500EHP. Easy 1K EHP and they are much, much harder to hit than another tank. We have two other turrets that work fine. Rail guns work like tanks of old, except the splash damage has been eliminated (totally unrealistic). Then there is the missile tank, which also doesn't have splash damage to speak of anymore. A large turret plasma cannon would be ganked by CCP before it hit the battlefield. No splash damage, transit time would be the same as a hand held unit (maybe another 30-50m so slower). So would the damage and I would bet real world cash they would make it single shot. So ... why would you want to pay for a tank as well when you already have the plasma cannon? besides the whole turrets don't want to work litany that has never been fixed. Probably won't either. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1	Posted - 2015.06.21 00:36:00 - [24] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: Yet it kills EVERYTHING in sight, yeah, I can feel the ignorance off of you, and your in-ability to use the PLC as well, and the fact that you don't believe in that anything can happen in SCI FI FANTASY. If anything the PLC is a very good weapon, people just complain and say it sucks cause it's muzzle velocity is very similar (but still faster) to the MD, that and given the fact that there's far too much strafing (even after the nerf the MIN's still have insane strafe speed and need to be brought down to only being slightly inhuman) is why most gun's suck. But guess what? If someone stay's still, it's the best weapon in the game (bare in mind that weapon range's suck equine genital's horribly, need's more realistic range's and better sci fi range's). You just made a confusing, although compelling, argument to GANK THE PLASMA CANNON! Yes, please do. It is an abomination. Obviously some toy idea from upper level managerial types that had a random cosmic ray (gun?) hit their cranium and out popped the plasma cannon. Just to be clear: I hate the plasma cannon. My opinion is that it is a junk idea/weapon, proof being that it had to be buffed several times to get it to usable. Granted, now the PRO/OFF variant is wildly OP, but it is a CCP favorite so I suspect its place in dust is golden. The good news is I only lost a few tanks (when I came back) to them, in the hands of those stinking jumpers, before I figured them out. Avoid the cheese, and they lose. Roll in your own ignorance @Zan boi. Dust is BAD to HORRIBLE SCI FI FANTASY! It uses iron frakking sights on assault rifles! Because forum QQ. The Derp Ships fly with engines that are sticking out of their butts. Okay, moment of inertia still is a simple calculation, even in SCI FI RANTASY. I was reading good science fiction before your parents were born, so get off your high horse and actually state what you mean. Unless you do, I am using your post as proof the plasma cannon needs to be GANKED, aka to receive the Nerf Hammer of Doom (my tm). Also, I cannot believe you gave the lead in to this joke: You can hit anything - if the target doesn't move. Ba da boom! I thought this was about turrets, how did we get here? I think Zan must have made a left turn at Albuquerque. My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.

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