I have been informed that some of you have a bad opinion of my organization, or me personally. To be honest, I never expected to be in the position that I am in...nor to have the responsibilities that come with it. I remember clearly coming from the bottom, fighting against the powers that be, and struggling to earn our right among the rest. I will spare you the memoir.

I am not a carebear (completely). I WANT you to struggle, to desire more, to strive for improvement. The hardest aspects of PC itself is what challenges both the player and the team in its entirety, and those with the fortitude to carry on build the bonds that make this game.....well, the game I love. To fully experience the single most dynamic component of DUST514, I believe you MUST participate in the competitive field and test your valor.

However, in PC's current state, it appears assistance is necessary to uplift the majority of "up and comers" (and those whose previous attempts have met with failure) and give them a chance. My current plan is to segregate, as best I can, corps based on tiers into corresponding constellations within Molden Heath (there are 6 constellations total). To begin, the lowest tiers will be provided a district free-of-charge in a specific constellation. This way, they can essentially "have it out" in fair fights with corps of similar skill in close proximity with each other without any disruption by corps of obviously higher skill.

So far, I have some top-tier corps that agree not to interfere with this course of action, and will devote resources toward construction of this system.

This thread is meant to gather corp names that wish to take part in this PC reformation, and be given their district. Also, relevant and coherent feedback would be appreciated.

I ask that only corp leaders make any attempt to contact me in game, that I may extradite this plan swiftly.

Shep

Because you guys are so great at that OH isn't exactly known for being true to their word, lol. You guys kinda got a reputation for being wishy-washy and shady when it comes to politics. But, yanno, Jack Sparrow said it best:

"-a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid."

+1 Zaria I like the idea every time it gets brought up but as long as this keeps happening NOTHING will change. All corps have players that do this and don't care about smaller corps or last district rules. Like it or not Ringers will always be used and the smaller corps that use the best ringers will win.

What a surprise to find Shepherd Grey whining, as per the usual. The political motivations are obvious and persistent across every single "help a noobie!" program (all of which have failed spectacularly, incidentally). If you're successful, you've gained political capital and alliances from whatever organizations you've "brought up". Even if you're unsuccessful, your post is a (disingenuous) attempt to harvest good will from players and the community at large who don't realize the impossibility of the plan.

Almur met with...great success? Where are the successful teams? Don't make me laugh.

Everything in PC is political, and devs really should stay well and clear of it.

Honestly, I think the main problem is reception. I've toyed with the idea of entering my corp into PC, and the 1 major concern is not the ringers, or even the costs, it's the fact that you see the squads of established PC corps in pubs, and many of them are just bastards to fight against. Camping uplinks, people exploiting broken/unbalance mechanics, hard to fight against packs of FotM. All I can think is that my corp made up of my friends would love to test our mettle against these corps, but if we can't just run the fun fits we made, and instead have to run full anti-frustrating-tactics fits, it quickly looses its appeal. I'd much rather avoid the stress of fighting a large, talent pooling group of people with functionally unlimited money, doing stuff that makes them unfun to fight against. No point when even if I win a district, and even if I can defend it every day when I don't have the billions of isk to hire alliance ringers/purchase clone packs. I'll stick to running pubs with my friends, with the occasional FW to mix it up.

Here are 2 PR points that you OH and CA guys don't seem to get. I keep seeing venom in the responses as an indicator.

1. Stop talking about ringers.
- Everyone who was in PCs during some of the worst times has terrible experience with the billboard corps bringing in 14 ringers for the smash, being farmed, or having ringers from like allied or like corps **** people off. I saw more people leave corps due to ringing or leveraging ringers than any other driving force.
- You don't know the problem from where you are. Just be quiet about this issue. It is an issue or everyone wouldn't be so fing mad about it. Just acknowledge it is a problem, mention how it is less prevalent now (it is), and don't brow beat people for suffering from it.
- If you don't get this point then come meet me in any COD and I will ride you all day and you tell me if you hate my guts because I use exploits like crazy.

2. Focus on this being brand new. New corps don't see the past as rosy.
- The past exploits of the CBM is full of corruption.
- Focus on this being your new legacy and drive home how this is a new day and you are marshaling in the next era of PC with the top position driving for a new player controlled PC.
- You won't win districts for everyone, but you will start off as many "New" corps as you can into PC is the message.
- Your previous message about you gaining nothing is a good start but people will mistrust that post. Focus on why you are doing this. Everyone has motives. I think if you talked about them that would tell everyone see where you are coming from.
PC is an empty battlefield lately and this saddens you
Your corp has a bad rap just like Nyain San used to and you want to be better than that
Dust is losing player base and you have vested lots into the game and want to retain people in PC

Just a couple of suggestions. Like I said before, I support this movement but it requires new corps to risk everything (A few bad fights could burn out members and then the corp folds) on a benefactor they don't necessarily know. You are giving out district you don't even fight on so it costs you so very little. Think of new corps perspective.

Viktor - Sorry to call the CBM corrupt.
I never saw a charter for the CBM but I do know from some of my friend's corps I used to help (Not giving names) that they would fight against a corp who instigated a fight, then be beaten down after violating the last district policy while avenging same said offense performed by the corp.
I was told the last district rule was started by the CBM and the enforcement is as always political. All politics involve some people lying and exploiting facts, hence my corruption correlation.

There may be exceptions and probably good intentions that were involved. This is a game of battle and some perception is spread through people being angry they lost. There were other comments earlier about the CBM not being effective in the thread you did not respond to.
Just curious why you called out mine? My statement wasn't even made for you but discussing general perceptions and helping top corps with PR.

If I am at all wrong this was my ignorance entirely. But I know my view is a bit of the shared perception. The CBM has never harmed me directly. If the CBM was trying to police PC, like I hear it was trying to perform, then it would be considered failing right? Dude, you told another corp they shouldn't PC because they don't try super hard and you can't take a little failure comment. If you become a CPM be careful. Those guys received some serious flaming at times. Like character attacks.

Something like this, needs to everyone on board.. so regarding TARTAVEN, the epeens need to be kept in your pants. It is not perfect, but it is a start, and I fully support a system for new corps, so when a new/undeveloped corp is given land, or even wants to come in and flip something, they can begin in a system with corps of similar skill levels, and progress.

I have tried something similar, intending to gain Osvetur as a EU PC zone.. as soon as QQuse was aware of this, he sent attacks to see it did not happen. After that I was not going to make a habit of building something the fat kids will break,
So if TARTAVEN is going to work, the supporters need to outnumber the trolls because no matter who sets this up, there will be trolls, the only way to defend vs that is if the community supports this proposal.

- As someone who has been on the receiving end from the corps involved, I urge more players to settle these differences.

Because this 'project' is not about Cap, or anyone else instigating it, it is about MH and making a 'safezone' where undeveloped corps can battle without having to deal with the scrubbiest of tryhards being you neighbours.

So to the players this may benefit, you can either hide under tinfoil hats and call BS on this..
Or you can get off your ass and be part of making the first healthy change to how MH functions (in my time)

No-one is being asked to buddy up, no-one is being asked for anything in return (bar respecting noobs in Tartaven)
Just take the fights somewhere else, leave this as the first step to growing PC, and draw blood/tears elsewhere

You cannot trust those who break rules themselves, just by making few more.
What is happening IMO is "I am bored and need attention. Hey, lets do pc faire so later we have someone to fight against.".
Because what RUST intends is to have that all over MH, which is more than one place they aim and claim to make it a good bet.

Yes I wasn't really present and aware, (my personal thanks to D1ck for doing nice in RUST btw, would be nice having you back in other circumstances) that some of our members decided to f..k our doctrine which is going to be epic buttocks warm-up from me, be sure.
What is intended in our alliance is to join and have own land being a developing corp, aligned with developed ones, thing is nobody wants to play together because adversaries are needed, you can have them if you want but that needs LOWER BARRIERS TO ENTRY AND MORE SPACE NOT JUST MOLDEN HEATH.

What Mr.Grey does is: tells he is so handsome in destroying a bigger opportunity just because he is not part of it and wants do some pathetic version of it. To do that he picks one of "valid" reasons that can be applied against his own company of comrades and applies publicly against us.

How about joining RUST? This way we kill the dispute, give land to developing corps and have still pretty much a lot of enemies or no enemies at all, just sharing experience.

If it is hardly imaginable for Mr. Grey then I must say this person cannot accept change and conditions in favour of those he claims to protect, sacrifice is hard but he is not the only one to do that. He has hard time doing that? Well if so maybe he is arrogant and wants to be "beloved" whilst destroying something better to have own ridicule version of it. Both sides are full of wrongdoings, however we do not deny it unlike them, and we tend to fix them, at least I do.

Well, not joining RUST, which is a pretty good opportunity and way to influence easily "bad" corps, will show that Mr. Grey is showing off and is moved by his selfish ideals which will bring nothing but despair for those lads in future. If he has clear intention then he must contact me and we discuss that.

D1ck, does it look to you now, like RUST is ready to settle difference and old fights for the commonwealth? Because for me it does.

Why would Cap or OH join Rust? To ensure you don't attack corps in tart? Well good luck

Yes my reading comprehension is almost 2

Well we wouldn't do anything if CAPAQ guys wouldn't claim we are the one who violate district rules whilst they do the same many times for example:

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So be sure to read carefully.


In Oddelulf III - District 9 happened:

Horizons' EdgeCH112+8045002:0007/04/2015 03:26

The IRS.CH150+045002:0007/04/2015 02:56

HEX did attack while IRS had 2 districts, they took one.

Four days later Capital AQ attacks second and last district of IRS and takes it.

In Meildolf V - District 2 happened:

Capital Acquisitions LLCCH360+8045003:0011/04/2015 04:56
The IRS.CH150+045003:0011/04/2015 04:26

So CAPAQ violated last district rule. Correct me if I am wrong but data is data.

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So now they, on the base, we are bad and violating the rule we dont let poor small corporations have their districts, start a campaign of districts held by developing small corps. Which is our ideal, yes, some management decisions without my presence brought violation of our doctrine as well, however we do fix that unlike others because we envision long-term goals which can improve gaming experience of all, check our website for more details rust415.com/en/. No more comments on your intentions upon this topic from me, because we are not the cause of WHAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE TO MAKE SOME CONSEQUENCES.

Royal facepalm...

EDIT: Don't forget to add that it was CBM corp.
You are so lost in your game you think this fact, just one more example of breaking a rule whatever were the parties, that will make you, a CBM representative a person who stands for what he says? I need pop corn!

Trolling over forsaken lol, nothing much, everything you claim is a BS, the one and only design and purpose of CBM is a trolling lol
Remove your candidacy from CPM2 at once, you will make this game worse. Use your qualified troll brain, instead of hiding behind someone big, do something useful, don't deceive some teenagers and mediocre people on these forums. They come here to joy and are being put into something useless. No more comments from me upon your existence, sorry. o7

The plan won't be a success because upon planning you forget that managing you have human factor which sooner or later will do what it did to PFC. No counter-attacks, just pulling you into clean water. I have no will to spend time convincing what you should do. What I did with this "CBM for lulz" remark is to show that you are just like me or anybody who has been in position before us.

I don't mind pulling sh!t on me if it also shows true side of the one I claim upon. Accusations are nothing but a variable, just like Viktor Hadah here kissing your buttocks all time long, makes me feel sick; little Bieber fan-girl - also part of the game, this is sandbox full of erm...sand. Do you even lift?

Same story, different angle. Your narrow thought brings you into thinking that TSO 2.0 is ever to happen, by same thinking of yours I claim PFC 2.0 is to happen to your idea. You know what happened to that.

Besides if you think TSO to happen again then you are not responsible for own actions, you deny opportunity to make it not-TSO and you simply call it a bad idea because you have pre-set bias towards such, which IMO shows that you give up before even starting, with such view that "club of interstellar housewives" wont hold long. You want to give in for your plan, well do it then and I will make bets.


Few facts about us. Our alliance doesn't have one body to rule, we have holocracy and two men who are me and Ael. We don't interfere, we keep ensuring alliance policy is being ensured.

Of course we cannot cover everything, and some things escape but as for now things are running and we plan to keep them running, we both don't want to rule corporations in our alliance. They rule their alliance, we managed to retain power to be sure none will go crazy and decide something stupid. Sounds like parliamentary republic to me, at least in semi-strong form, but we can improve that. Land is not a problem, people are, and as soon you find it out you will understand what I am saying in this very post about what we achieved and what some corporations saw in us. I am grateful for that.

One governing body? Well lets make it a coalition if you are afraid of alliance who has no one-to-rule-them-all person because if you won't play rules as everyone else in our alliance then yes it will be TSO 2.0.

P.S.: Horizon will get its district and clone pack back as much as I heard from PoK. Now I wait for feedback on that. Call me hard in the head but I am doing my part.