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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:10:00 -
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Hmm... What kind of bonus could we have to replace the Nova Knife damage bonus?
Or could we still keep our damage bonus and have super duper Knives? 
The Scout bonuses seem to be working ok to me, and I don't think they really need another major shake-up since the last one when the Cal Scout was OP, or even when the Amarr Scout was the best back when we had a larger Scan Radius. I think the only Scout that should have it's bonuses looked is the Amarr Scout.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:11:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Makuta Miserix wrote:Remove the NK bonus from the MinScout? Not too sure I appreciate what you're saying there.  It's the Caldari's in the first place. So basically you're taking pride from borrowed power
I think that it works well just in terms of balance. Is it really a big deal that it doesn't make sense lore-wise?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:22:00 -
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Oh and btw, in the OP you mentioned that the Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers hacks as fast as a Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker, but that's not true. A Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker hacks faster than a Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:25:00 -
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So am I understanding correctly in that you're saying that all Scouts should only have 1 racial bonus and neutral bonuses of +3% to Profile and the Cloak fitting cost bonus?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:29:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh and btw, in the OP you mentioned that the Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers hacks as fast as a Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker, but that's not true. A Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker hacks faster than a Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers. Of topic. What do you use for a speed hacker in PC? I tried all code breakers a while back but I was scanned to hell and had a hard time most of the time.
I use a Minja. Usually it's not about stealth-hacks, but more about getting clinch-hacks whilst your team holds the reds off of the point for a few precious seconds. It usually doesn't matter if you're scanned in this situation because you're not trying for stealth and are relying on your teammates for protection.
So yes, I use all Codebreakers. I find that they all make a significant difference.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.11 23:41:00 -
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DR DEESE NUTS wrote:Lol. Nova knives are plasma and cqc oriented. They are obviously Gallente. Don't know why people think there Caldari. It's literally the opposite of the Caldari doctrine which shoot from long range and make every shot count. Oppose to Gallente which get in close and *****` slap them with loads of damage.
I assumed that the Caldari made Nova Knives to be their last resort in a forced CQC situation.
I'm also pretty sure that I read somewhere on EVElopedia that the art of knife combat has a special Caldari name, and mastery of which is a requirement for every Commander - or something. 
They're 100% Caldari.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:20:00 -
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Nachos wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Oh and btw, in the OP you mentioned that the Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers hacks as fast as a Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker, but that's not true. A Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker hacks faster than a Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers. they hack equally as fast...min scout bonus is 25%+ cmp codebreaker which brings it to 50% gal scout gets 2 x 25% bonuses because codebreakers have no stacking penalties
The spreadsheet in this thread confirms that a Min Scout with 1 Codebreaker hacks faster than a Gal Scout with 2 Codebreakers.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:01:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Interestingly I made almost the exact same proposal in the barbershop a while back.
A potential alternative Gallente scout bonus would be to cloak duration/recharge. Or give Caldari the cloak bonus and Galente scan range, if you want to be more racially aligned.
There are issues however. Firstly there is the danger of making the Minmatar scout overpowered. Also, whilst I like the idea of making knives more viable on other suits, removing the knife bonus to Min scouts potentially loses the flavour and heart of the suit. Knives are part of a Min scout's identity. Losing the bonus, even if knife damage was buffed generally, would remove that identity. Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0
I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout...
/nostalgic sigh 
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:08:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Interestingly I made almost the exact same proposal in the barbershop a while back.
A potential alternative Gallente scout bonus would be to cloak duration/recharge. Or give Caldari the cloak bonus and Galente scan range, if you want to be more racially aligned.
There are issues however. Firstly there is the danger of making the Minmatar scout overpowered. Also, whilst I like the idea of making knives more viable on other suits, removing the knife bonus to Min scouts potentially loses the flavour and heart of the suit. Knives are part of a Min scout's identity. Losing the bonus, even if knife damage was buffed generally, would remove that identity. Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0 I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout... /nostalgic sigh I might not now how it was back then(I joined around uprising) bu t I know the runt lifestyle. Rattati tried to drown my kind
Heheheh, I joined after Uprising 1.8, and the Minja was still the runt even then.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
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Posted - 2015.06.12 02:16:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Preach it brother, oh wait I'm the runt scout the AK.0 I remember when the Minja was the runt Scout... /nostalgic sigh I might not now how it was back then(I joined around uprising) bu t I know the runt lifestyle. Rattati tried to drown my kind Heheheh, I joined after Uprising 1.8, and the Minja was still the runt even then. I just got my new ishy knives and I'm having a blast. Some minjumpspam noobtuber got his throat cut midair as he came down. Best moment of my day.
It was saxonmish, wasn't it? His entire squad and him were running Min Assaults with stacked Myos and Mass Drivers or PLCs today; was annoying as Hell.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
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