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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:18:00 -
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I was looking at this card: https://trello.com/c/yo8sJ336/222-why-14-missiles-slots-and-12-in-turret-large-missile
That made me think of how the current Small Missile Turrets have 3 tubes but have an 8-round magazine.
The idea is you have a 3-round magazine that let's you fire the missiles out just as fast as a Large Missile Turret in exchange for a small cone-of-fire instead of pinpoint accuracy, and then a reload. You can still fire them one at a time just as accurately as you normally could.
This would allow better application of damage against vehicles and provide a slightly larger window for infantry to try and take cover when they come under attack.
As well, whatever advantage toward killing infantry the RoF would give would be countered by faster ammo consumption, forcing the vehicle to reload more frequently.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.05 02:22:00 -
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This, is a solid, capital wasteland Idea.
I'd love to see this in the game.
Even though I hate using missiles they are the only thing that work on an incubus and I never could understand why small missiles and Large Missiles worked differently.
If I could have a use the burst against those Suicide LAVs to pop them as well as keep a steady stream of fire on infantry that'd be awesome.
+1
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.06.05 12:07:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:This, is a solid, capital wasteland Idea.
I'd love to see this in the game.
Even though I hate using missiles they are the only thing that work on an incubus and I never could understand why small missiles and Large Missiles worked differently.
If I could have a use the burst against those Suicide LAVs to pop them as well as keep a steady stream of fire on infantry that'd be awesome.
+1
Good example of how it could be used.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.05 12:29:00 -
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Would prefer it as a separate turret, just in case it ends up being rubbish... Then we end up with even less useful small turrets. |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.06.05 12:34:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Would prefer it as a separate turret, just in case it ends up being rubbish... Then we end up with even less useful small turrets.
That's actually not a bad suggestion. Releasing it as a variant at first would allow it to be tested kind of like the teleporter idea was tested in the Other Contracts section of the Battlefinder.
If it's widely adopted, you just remove the old one and you've successfully given everyone a neat new asset.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:13:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Would prefer it as a separate turret, just in case it ends up being rubbish... Then we end up with even less useful small turrets. That's actually not a bad suggestion. Releasing it as a variant at first would allow it to be tested kind of like the teleporter idea was tested in the Other Contracts section of the Battlefinder. If it's widely adopted, you just remove the old one and you've successfully given everyone a neat new asset.
Sounds good. I think my main concern is that 3 missiles when rapidly fired may not be enough... When you consider a heavy forge gunner can take quite a beating, while dealing enough to thrash an ads without reload.
Perhaps 6 missiles would be better, but with a max of 3 in a burst... Though with rapid fire, this could end up being as OP as the old Python RoF. |
Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.06.05 13:21:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Would prefer it as a separate turret, just in case it ends up being rubbish... Then we end up with even less useful small turrets. That's actually not a bad suggestion. Releasing it as a variant at first would allow it to be tested kind of like the teleporter idea was tested in the Other Contracts section of the Battlefinder. If it's widely adopted, you just remove the old one and you've successfully given everyone a neat new asset. Sounds good. I think my main concern is that 3 missiles when rapidly fired may not be enough... When you consider a heavy forge gunner can take quite a beating, while dealing enough to thrash an ads without reload. Perhaps 6 missiles would be better, but with a max of 3 in a burst... Though with rapid fire, this could end up being as OP as the old Python RoF.
Your last part was why I thought it best to stick with the 3-round burst. If you keep the current reload rate or at most extend it slightly, you won't have that long to wait before you can throw down another burst.
Bursts would be ineffective against Medium and Light suits because the missiles scatter a bit and some fast dancing can prevent hits. A heavier target like a Sentinel would need to use cover to engage while avoiding getting blapped.
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 14:40:00 -
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Before CCP went and removed all missile variants we had 3 missile variants for small and large:
-Cycled missiles
double the rate of fire but a much smaller blast radius for less infantry killing power
-fragmented missiles
much bigger blast radius but lower damage to kill infantry
-regular missiles
the thing that you have today
Never understood why CCP removed the turret variants. We had aswell similar rail and blaster turrets which behaved differently. But appearently having more then 1 choice was too much of a burden for bluedots to choose from. In my opinion if CCP really wants a AV turret just create a new missile turret that can only be fit on LAV's+dropships that fires swarm missiles.
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