DUST Search - this game needs pve

Vrain Matari wrote:

Count- -Crotchula wrote:

you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 ****** squads with officer weapons against
people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats.

why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again.

it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same.

this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades.

bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either.

also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle"
"any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN".

PvE or this game is TOAST.

Actually, now that match making is in place i'm switching to proto.

Two reasons: First, i don't want the game to die while i've never run proto. More importantly, every vet in the upper tier is a scum-suckin' noob stomper from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back, and deserves all the proto i can stuff down their faces =)

In regard to the OP, I'd like to see open world PvEvP before pure PvE. But whatever the case, PvE in Dust must serve PvP, and PvP must drive the PvE content. The two groups must be made to need each other and also need to interact with each other.

Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)

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Count- -Crotchula Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2015.06.04 21:17:00 - [1] - Quote you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 ****** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 47	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:32:00 - [2] - Quote These forum's have been plagued with PvE forums on both feedback and general discussion, CCP simply refuses to acknowledge it, that's what I feel at least, but who knows, when we get the yearly client update we may see PvE. Also that's how people are in all game's, battlefield, call of duty, it's a superiority complex, you don't know when to stop because there's no one TO stop you, that's why you get redlined in these games. G.R.A.V.E - Dead men tell no tale...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:51:00 - [3] - Quote Fanfest 2015 - Round Table with CCP Rattati Rattati actually brought up the fact that his team was experimenting with drones as a concept for either NPE or PvE. However, he did point out that the AI used for the drones might only be rudimentary. In other words, don't expect rogue drones in Dust to be anymore intelligent than your typical turret installation. IMPORTANT NOTE: He was just experimenting. He did not say if this is going to happen. EDIT: I forgot to mention that the drones they were experimenting with were assets that were already developed and rigged in-game as props for the Gathering Forces trailer. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
EleriKP TO THE DEATH 3	Posted - 2015.06.04 22:59:00 - [4] - Quote I made the mistake of reading the Wikipedia page of dust 514 earlier. That game sounds brilliant.
Adis Riefha Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7	Posted - 2015.06.09 21:20:00 - [5] - Quote True, true. My "gameplay" today consists of logging in, checking my warbarge, updating skills, then letting the battlefinder run in the background a couple hours while I do something else. Since I apparently only have time to play when the entire population of Earth is in hibernation, I'd really like PVE added just so I actually can play the game. Bonus points if PVE is added to faction warfare matches.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.09 21:38:00 - [6] - Quote Zan Azikuchi wrote: These forum's have been plagued with PvE forums on both feedback and general discussion, CCP simply refuses to acknowledge it. CCP Rattati commented on PvE at fanfest 2015. It was in passing, but they are aware of the community's desire for PvE. Kind of hard to miss... I believe it is still one of the highest voted ideas on the community trello board. @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley on Skype!
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 728	Posted - 2015.06.09 23:37:00 - [7] - Quote Hmm. I guess I misunderstood. Thought he said this was going to happen this year. It should've happened three years ago Shields, the silent killer.
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.06.09 23:44:00 - [8] - Quote Its still BS that CCP never gave a reason of no PVE. The trailer of Gathering Forces showa a bit of pve and I see No ******* problems with it. How hard is it to not add something. Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.06.09 23:48:00 - [9] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Its still BS that CCP never gave a reason of no PVE. The trailer of Gathering Forces showa a bit of pve and I see No ***** problems with it. How hard is it to not add something. Like most problems with Dust 514, the issue can be traced to it being on the PS3. We are at the limit on what the PS3 can load into each match. Loading in drone assets would tax the PS3's memory even more. That being said, the power core/ tiericide idea may free up memory to use on other things. We will have to see how it plays out. Alternatively, CCP could just get this game off the PS3 entirely and be free of the memory issues on a more permanent basis @Ripley_Riley CPM2 candidate. Ripley.Riley** on Skype!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.06.09 23:49:00 - [10] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Its still BS that CCP never gave a reason of no PVE. The trailer of Gathering Forces showa a bit of pve and I see No ******* problems with it. How hard is it to not add something. I think it's because some of us wanted PvEvP like how Eve Online does it with PvE. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

DiablosMajora 176	Posted - 2015.06.10 00:18:00 - [11] - Quote what if pve was an amusing coffee-break in between matches while your next battle was getting prepared. drones could be easy to kill loot pinatas for a small extra bonus reward totaled into your upcoming battle's final EoM screen, and since the time in between battles is relatively short there would be a time limit Prepare your angus
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 693	Posted - 2015.06.10 00:59:00 - [12] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: PvE or this game is TOAST. This game IS toast, we're just headstrong fools who like it. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 730	Posted - 2015.06.10 02:49:00 - [13] - Quote I love toast Shields, the silent killer.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 233	Posted - 2015.06.10 02:51:00 - [14] - Quote I'm all for PVE but I'd rather CCP patch all the bugs and get this game on the PS4.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.10 02:58:00 - [15] - Quote Squagga wrote: I love toast I love lamp Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge No Context 624	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:06:00 - [16] - Quote lolPVE CEO of Horizons' Edge's mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:36:00 - [17] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 **** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST. Low playercount? Titanfall would like to have a word with you. Especially for it's age Dust is doing pretty good regarding active players. Also the problem isn't proto, it's the squad thing. But yes, it does need PvE. But maybe you should search a bit: PvE is actually on the table again and the devs are trying to add it. Besides... don't you think it's kinda cool how players actually make a name for themselves in this game? I just think it's kinda cool to see stuff like "Oh god dammit, it's Nyain San. We're ****." as much as being stomped sucks. I really like the meta of the Eve Universe. After 2 years (for me) and even more for some other people you really get to know some players. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2015.06.10 03:42:00 - [18] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: I'm all for PVE but I'd rather CCP patch all the bugs and get this game on the PS4. Why do you want to condemn the game to another 5 years on a console? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11	Posted - 2015.06.10 17:34:00 - [19] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: I'm all for PVE but I'd rather CCP patch all the bugs and get this game on the PS4. Why do you want to condemn the game to another 5 years on a console? As a cross-platform gamer, I don't give a damn if Dust 514 goes into the PC or the PS4. All that matters to me is that it moves on. I could go with the PC platform since it will allow Dust to be more unified with CCP's Tranquility server and will allow players access to Singularity for testing, but that would require going through the hassle of transferring ownership of in-game assets from the PSN accounts to the PC accounts. The other problem is that it will alienate an already-established player base on the PlayStation market who don't have a PC and thus CCP will be forced to rebuild their player base from the ground up in the PC market and that carries risks. I could also go with the PS4 platform since it will be convenient for both CCP and players to just move over without the hassle of transferring ownership of in-game assets since it will just be the same accounts access it. That and the PS4 is said to be much closer to the PC specs than ever before. In fact, according to the article linked below, the PS4 has certain hardware that are not yet available on the open market for homemade PCs and the comparable price does not include peripherals such as the mouse, keyboard, monitor, and an X360 controller to rig onto the PC. http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171158-can-you-build-a-gaming-pc-better-than-the-ps4-for-400 In other words, the only advantage that the PC has at this point is that it is still relatively more immune to obsolescence compared to the console whose standardized hardware makes it more prone to obsolescence. On top of that, a lot of players just can't afford to get a new computer or just don't have the general knowledge and experience required to build their own. I would know as I have done many lectures already where players have told me that they just don't have a PC and are stuck with the console. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
JIMvc2 Consolidated Dust 1	Posted - 2015.06.10 17:41:00 - [20] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Its still BS that CCP never gave a reason of no PVE. The trailer of Gathering Forces showa a bit of pve and I see No ******* problems with it. How hard is it to not add something. Like most problems with Dust 514, the issue can be traced to it being on the PS3. We are at the limit on what the PS3 can load into each match. Loading in drone assets would tax the PS3's memory even more. That being said, the power core/ tiericide idea may free up memory to use on other things. We will have to see how it plays out. Alternatively, CCP could just get this game off the PS3 entirely and be free of the memory issues on a more permanent basis Is their someone here who can give me a better answer. FROM CCP. The whole limit crao of the ps3 = Bullshit excuse. Look at Killzone 3 it has drones, GTA 5 = Great looking game, Resistance, Last Of Us, Uncharted... I want this console to be pushed more. Push it until it blows up xD or explodes on everyone's house and burns it to the ground. As a consumer WE have the right to criticize and to make sure everyones voice is heard. We won't stop until we get a answer from the Devs ONLY. I'll spam General Discussion over and over again with this PVE. Why did the white girl cross the road? To get to Starbucks. <-- My GF will kill me if I ask her that lol :)

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3	Posted - 2015.06.10 17:47:00 - [21] - Quote "Bots" are much more useful than a portion of this playerbase. I remember bots back in Unreal Tourney 99 putting in more leg and gun work than some bluebs "Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 959	Posted - 2015.06.10 20:25:00 - [22] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Its still BS that CCP never gave a reason of no PVE. The trailer of Gathering Forces showa a bit of pve and I see No ******* problems with it. How hard is it to not add something. Like most problems with Dust 514, the issue can be traced to it being on the PS3. We are at the limit on what the PS3 can load into each match. Loading in drone assets would tax the PS3's memory even more. That being said, the power core/ tiericide idea may free up memory to use on other things. We will have to see how it plays out. Alternatively, CCP could just get this game off the PS3 entirely and be free of the memory issues on a more permanent basis Is their someone here who can give me a better answer. FROM CCP. The whole limit crao of the ps3 = Bullshit excuse. Look at Killzone 3 it has drones, GTA 5 = Great looking game, Resistance, Last Of Us, Uncharted... I want this console to be pushed more. Push it until it blows up xD or explodes on everyone's house and burns it to the ground. As a consumer WE have the right to criticize and to make sure everyones voice is heard. We won't stop until we get a answer from the Devs ONLY. I'll spam General Discussion over and over again with this PVE. The problem is all the games you list are much more "simpler" than Dust when it comes to loadouts and backend calculation. Sure, Dust's code is probably not very well optimised, but it's a major task to rewrite core logic. Probably out of reach for CCP Rattati and team. That is why the power core idea and tiericide is so appealing. It would potential save up some resources while still being in the realm of possibility for CCP Shanghai to manage. Dust in its current form is already pushing the PS3 to its limit. If they push it some more you will probably get your wish
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 446	Posted - 2015.06.10 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote Hehe its funny to read about this, ooo wait there is a article about this its coming and its confirmed : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85594 Wounder wy I quit playing this game, you all now wy CCP got the trademark SOON ..... I remember the good old days..... but if PS4 is in the loop we are ready to start again. Cheers folks. This says it all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1	Posted - 2015.06.10 21:34:00 - [24] - Quote There should be a VR set up in the MQ, It plays exactly the same except with drones as enemies but you earn no passive XP and a fraction of what ever XP you would normally earn. Or you hire yourself out as private security for the various corporations of New Edan, you do the sort of stuff you don't need an army to do but a single super solider would be great for. It would be like missions from EVE, just cut back on the SP and ISK earned to where PVP is the better option by far. Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
Mex-0 Corrosive Synergy 696	Posted - 2015.06.10 21:37:00 - [25] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Squagga wrote: I love toast I love lamp I love _____. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç n++pâçGòÉS+Ç
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.06.10 22:51:00 - [26] - Quote I was in a squad yesterday where I **** you not 6 matches in a row people left battle before the match started. 6 or fewer players on the enemy team each time. There was one match where Blow of Blood and some randoms pushed our blues back in seconds. A couple deaths and they quit. We lost that one. Then more quitting. Luckily we got FW to kickstart or I would have fallen asleep. It's really hard to fathom the level of fagina this playerbase is. I'm sorry you are disappointed OP that the FPS game that you downloaded has small fragments of it's population that use their R1 buttons.
MrCriminal High Power Art.of.Death 37	Posted - 2015.06.10 22:54:00 - [27] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 **** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST. Because it's fun. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ¤.°n+ín+ƒGÿåGùÅ°.LASERS BTCH!!!!!! El Diablo 666**
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.06.10 23:00:00 - [28] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: "Bots" are much more useful than a portion of this playerbase. I remember bots back in Unreal Tourney 99 putting in more leg and gun work than some bluebs It would be amazing if we had bots. I'm not joking about the 6 straight matches of 2-4 enemy players before we even spawned in. I don't do redline stalking anymore because I refuse to give the cowards content. While I waited inside the little cubby hole at the objective it would have been nice for some bots to show up for something to do. Maybe they could add some mini games at the point. Tetris would be awesome. Just sit there and play Tetris inside one of the 3-5 objectives and be completely safe. Maybe only get 1/4 of a kill for killing a bot. The more you kill, the more show up. If the enemy team refuses to push with the drone/bot help, the drones turn on the enemy team and start ripping them apart.
thor424 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.06.10 23:09:00 - [29] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 ****** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST. Supposedly there's matchmaking. The people I'm fighting are supposed to be veterans. I'm at 120 mil SP and a lifetime W/L over 2.0. I can understand if newbs get drug into a match by a squad, but I don't see that many squads. Most people I play with are rolling around in APEX suits. Can we not try to kill enemy players in the matches we play in? Should we wait 5 minutes for the enemy players to finish hacking/destroying installations and allow them to get set up? Maybe shoot them a message to remind them to put out more uplinks? Should we leave our corporations so the enemy team doesn't recognize that we may be in a group? Oh my, what if it's a group from a scary corp??? Should we let people run away with partial health so they can try again without suffering the trauma of dying in a video game?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.06.11 03:56:00 - [30] - Quote Count- -Crotchula wrote: you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 ****** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST. Actually, now that match making is in place i'm switching to proto. Two reasons: First, i don't want the game to die while i've never run proto. More importantly, every vet in the upper tier is a scum-suckin' noob stomper from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back, and deserves all the proto i can stuff down their faces =) In regard to the OP, I'd like to see open world PvEvP before pure PvE. But whatever the case, PvE in Dust must serve PvP, and PvP must drive the PvE content. The two groups must be made to need each other and also need to interact with each other. PSN: RationalSpark

Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 384	Posted - 2015.06.11 06:50:00 - [31] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Count- -Crotchula wrote: you are all grinding this game into the ground by running full proto mk0 ****** squads with officer weapons against people in MILITIA dropsuits, wonder why people leave mid-game? wonder why the player count is so low? you won't have anyone to play against soon. stop camping and padding your stats. why do people insist on: camping, tryharding, redlining new players who will NOT play this game again. it's true that most people play this game once or a few times and never touch it again, the ones who stay are masochists and sadists all the same. this game needs PvE so I don't have to play against people camped on the roof, spamming nades, MDs and REs down whilst the rest of the team snipes. yesterday I was in a game with 4 snipers (I left and was told by a youtube contact the count upped to SEVEN) I also saw not 1 person use a gun, they were all on the roof with REs and nades. bots would never play like that, they wouldn't allow themselves to get redlined either, they wouldn't quit the game either. also "dust player has left the battle" "ktm duke has left the battle" "hell on wheels has left the battle" "any decent player who you need on your team...HAS LEFT THE BATTLE BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN". PvE or this game is TOAST. Actually, now that match making is in place i'm switching to proto. Two reasons: First, i don't want the game to die while i've never run proto. More importantly, every vet in the upper tier is a scum-suckin' noob stomper from waaaaaaaaaaaaay back, and deserves all the proto i can stuff down their faces =) In regard to the OP, I'd like to see open world PvEvP before pure PvE. But whatever the case, PvE in Dust must serve PvP, and PvP must drive the PvE content. The two groups must be made to need each other and also need to interact with each other. I would like to see the player choose between highsec, lowsec or nullpve. Pvevp is more likely in lowsec/null and should be more challenging. Maybe friendly fire is also switched on for low/null. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)


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