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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:08:00 -
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I noticed the skill bonus is towards cool down, isn't this contradictory to "keep it hot" why not instead have it ,heat build up reduction that way you can make more use of the clip and even more so been see reloads your gun is completely cooled down meaning if you was trying to finish off a target but had to reload it is now nigh impossible before said target gets to cover because your sidearm doesn't have the necessary range ( not even magseg ) .
Just an idea I'll let the more number intensive ppl do the work
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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Nachos
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:18:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:I noticed the skill bonus is towards cool down, isn't this contradictory to "keep it hot" why not instead have it ,heat build up reduction that way you can make more use of the clip and even more so been see reloads your gun is completely cooled down meaning if you was trying to finish off a target but had to reload it is now nigh impossible before said target gets to cover because your sidearm doesn't have the necessary range ( not even magseg ) .
Just an idea I'll let the more number intensive ppl do the work
didn't you say you were leaving?
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:19:00 -
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The cooldown bonus doesn't affect much as being 'hot' doesn't do anything to the damage.
Instead its damage is: [base damage value] + (# of shots fired consecutively * scalar). Scalar ranges from .85 to 1.10 (not entirely sure what officer scalar is though).
So pulsing the laser rifle actually resets your damage. You want one single, long burn with it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:19:00 -
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I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:22:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage
Just trying to help gun is In a pitiful state
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:22:00 -
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Nachos wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:I noticed the skill bonus is towards cool down, isn't this contradictory to "keep it hot" why not instead have it ,heat build up reduction that way you can make more use of the clip and even more so been see reloads your gun is completely cooled down meaning if you was trying to finish off a target but had to reload it is now nigh impossible before said target gets to cover because your sidearm doesn't have the necessary range ( not even magseg ) .
Just an idea I'll let the more number intensive ppl do the work didn't you say you were leaving?
Re read the entire thread you fn derp
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:32:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The cooldown bonus doesn't affect much as being 'hot' doesn't do anything to the damage.
Instead its damage is: [listed base damage value] + (# of shots fired consecutively * scalar). Scalar ranges from .85 to 1.10 (not entirely sure what officer scalar is though).
So pulsing the laser rifle actually resets your damage. You want one single, long burn with it.
So avoiding overheat is absolutely fn pointless no wonder it is f'n broken it is as simple as track ,cook heat, begin firing, track target ,hope its enough damage
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:36:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage Just trying to help gun is In a pitiful state
No it isn't, you just suck
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iKILLu osborne
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.06.01 08:52:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage Just trying to help gun is In a pitiful state No it isn't, you just suck
Sadly with laser rifle I do,iget decent matches like 12/3 etc. But considering I leave most matches with 7GPò head shots no fault of mine in regards of aiming ,its just a gun without a sustainable dps thus the point of this thread to help sling ideas back and forth to come to a balanced solution to present to ccp
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:19:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The cooldown bonus doesn't affect much as being 'hot' doesn't do anything to the damage.
Instead its damage is: [listed base damage value] + (# of shots fired consecutively * scalar). Scalar ranges from .85 to 1.10 (not entirely sure what officer scalar is though).
So pulsing the laser rifle actually resets your damage. You want one single, long burn with it. So avoiding overheat is absolutely fn pointless no wonder it is f'n broken it is as simple as track ,cook heat, begin firing, track target ,hope its enough damage
Well, overheating still tacks on an extra 5 seconds or so before you can reload and start firing again so yeah, overheating is bad... but if you can get a kill while overheating, without dying yourself, go for it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:22:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The cooldown bonus doesn't affect much as being 'hot' doesn't do anything to the damage.
Instead its damage is: [listed base damage value] + (# of shots fired consecutively * scalar). Scalar ranges from .85 to 1.10 (not entirely sure what officer scalar is though).
So pulsing the laser rifle actually resets your damage. You want one single, long burn with it. So avoiding overheat is absolutely fn pointless no wonder it is f'n broken it is as simple as track ,cook heat, begin firing, track target ,hope its enough damage Well, overheating still tacks on an extra 5 seconds or so before you can reload and start firing again so yeah, overheating is bad... but if you can get a kill while overheating, without dying yourself, go for it.
My point of op regardless you don't pack enough punch to finish the job....unless your packing damage modded viziam once you begin firing again
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.06.01 09:56:00 -
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I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position.
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:02:00 -
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Laser rifle is secretly op,CCP pls do not Nerf. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:06:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage Just trying to help gun is In a pitiful state No it isn't, you just suck Sadly with laser rifle I do,iget decent matches like 12/3 etc. But considering I leave most matches with 7GPò head shots no fault of mine in regards of aiming ,its just a gun without a sustainable dps thus the point of this thread to help sling ideas back and forth to come to a balanced solution to present to ccp
Gun is fine it doesn't need changing yet.
"Crush all who complain!"
- Arkena Wyrnspire
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4lbert Wesker
Mithril Forge
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:09:00 -
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But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it.
Public skirmish = camping games,
Public domination = officer sniping games,
Public ambush = russian roulette
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:23:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position.
I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:25:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position. I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust.
I have 2 points in amar assaults,3 in lasors, an advanced damage mod and a elm-7 laser. I've been frying scouts assaults and heavies alike. |
iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I don't know what you wanted to say but:
1. cooldown skill affects when you stop shooting,faster cooldown(you know,that little red thing on the right corner of your screen)
2. Bonus damage stops when you release the trigger finger
3. I's the best on ammar assault,lower heat = longer shooting = more damage Just trying to help gun is In a pitiful state No it isn't, you just suck Sadly with laser rifle I do,iget decent matches like 12/3 etc. But considering I leave most matches with 7GPò head shots no fault of mine in regards of aiming ,its just a gun without a sustainable dps thus the point of this thread to help sling ideas back and forth to come to a balanced solution to present to ccp Gun is fine it doesn't need changing yet.
Yet?....that makes as much sense as a poopy flavored lolly pop
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:29:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it.
That's because lasers are mainly used from high ground and. Rr has range and profiency to counter it and is much more reliable
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:31:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it.
I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:35:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position. I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust.
Lower bracket?......
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:40:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position.
Good point it *requires good positioning* as does sr but guess what you have the comfort of red line with that. But with laser rifle(unless on officer suit) advertises to anybody that knows how to fly a drop ship "free kill come and get it while its cold" and *I'm not* suggesting it be good cqc, but it should least be a question of doubt of when facing it cqc
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:46:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it. I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day
Lol =ƒÿü someone doesn't know how to manage kick.....and arr which what takes up majority of killfeed next to scr and sg
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:56:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position. I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust. Lower bracket?......
Not that I'm aware of, though it is possible, considering that between myself and a single friend we managed to take out a full 50 clones.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:57:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it. I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day Lol =ƒÿü someone doesn't know how to manage kick.....and arr which what takes up majority of killfeed next to scr and sg
I've proto'd every weapon there is, used each one until I got sick of it. Managing recoil isn't hard but the recoil on the rail rifle is just plain stupid especially because it's a supposed mid to long range weapon
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maybe deadcatz
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Posted - 2015.06.01 10:58:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it. I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day
That was mean but totally true. Lasers beetch! |
iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:04:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it. I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day Lol =ƒÿü someone doesn't know how to manage kick.....and arr which what takes up majority of killfeed next to scr and sg I've proto'd every weapon there is, used each one until I got sick of it. Managing recoil isn't hard but the recoil on the rail rifle is just plain stupid especially because it's a supposed mid to long range weapon. Says much more about you though, can't use a weapon with no recoil. 
Oh I can use it just don't see it all too often looking to change that^.^ instead of flinging poop why not contribute to this thread with constructive feedback instead of trolling hmm?
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
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iKILLu osborne
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:07:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position. I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust. Lower bracket?...... Not that I'm aware of, though it is possible, considering that between myself and a single friend we managed to take out a full 50 clones.
It probably was if it was on an alt you don't use all too often 'i know mina is upperbracket so if you seen any names you recognized it was upper bracket, if not most likely lower
(n`-´)+Æ;;; shotgun blast yo ASs
Retired 62mil sp, z platoon vet, og shotty
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.06.01 11:27:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:But really,very few people use it.When you counter it with RR that player stops with using it. I will take bright lasers with exponential damage over a rifle with parkinsons any day Lol =ƒÿü someone doesn't know how to manage kick.....and arr which what takes up majority of killfeed next to scr and sg I've proto'd every weapon there is, used each one until I got sick of it. Managing recoil isn't hard but the recoil on the rail rifle is just plain stupid especially because it's a supposed mid to long range weapon. Says much more about you though, can't use a weapon with no recoil. Oh I can use it just don't see it all too often looking to change that^.^ instead of flinging poop why not contribute to this thread with constructive feedback instead of trolling hmm?
No, who will take you seriously when you suggest tweaks to a weapon you don't even know how to use properly? Learn it first! You don't just go into battle without training or start a lecture without proper knowledge, who the **** does that and succeeded without consequence?
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:01:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:4lbert Wesker wrote:I watched few saxonmish videos with laser rifle and used few tactics from him and it works very well,even STD gives a punch in the face.That gun is decent in the right hand and even more important,good position. I went 31/6 in a match earlier with a basic laser and an opus assault, on one of my alts. Being completely honest the laser is probably my favorite weapon in dust. Lower bracket?...... Not that I'm aware of, though it is possible, considering that between myself and a single friend we managed to take out a full 50 clones. It probably was if it was on an alt you don't use all too often 'i know mina is upperbracket so if you seen any names you recognized it was upper bracket, if not most likely lower
My alt was until about 1-2 months ago, only 2million SP behind mina, with *significantly* more kills. He's now fallen to ~5mill sp behind, but is still leading in kills by about 5000 or so.
All of my alts are in upper bracket.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.01 12:44:00 -
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the laser rifle is fine as is.
you want to make the laser past OP by giving it a feduction to heat build up....befor iuts even on an amarr assault.
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