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hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 252	Posted - 2015.05.30 19:47:00 - [1] - Quote Since the slot layout switch between amarr/gallente sentinels, amarr can pull higher reps for some reason and pretty much higher stats overall at the cost of .3 speed, with same fits. Heres my fits: Sentinel Gk.0 Max Reps http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/13442 Sentinel Ak.0 Max Reps http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/13443 I remember the days when my Sentinel Gk.0 could pull 60 reps and was a viable rep tanker, nowadays I'm pulling 32 reps a sec. 32!! Can we get a 4/1 slot layout for gal sentinels, or give it 10+ base reps, or a suit bonus to rep mods. Anything to make it a better rep tanker than Amarr. I'm protod out in this suit and I feel like its a waste. It should be 50+ reps again or GTFO. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.05.30 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.30 19:50:00 - [3] - Quote Those links are not working for me, the fit is coming up at empty. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 252	Posted - 2015.05.30 19:51:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Those links are not working for me, the fit is coming up at empty. Hmmm, works for me. I'll redo them. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 252	Posted - 2015.05.30 19:58:00 - [5] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote Well even without the links....yes you're going to end up with lower armor reps than Amarr simply because the Amarr have more low slots. Keep in mind that in EVE where the Gallente = Armor Reps originated, they rarely had more reps because of slots (and built in armor reps are not a thing). Instead it was that Gallente often got bonuses to Armor Repair Rate per level of that ship type. It's part of the reason why I've been pushing for the Frame Suit skills to provide a bonus to all suits within that frame size, specifically to establish those racial tanking themes. As a rough example: +2% Armor HP/ Lvl of Amarr Heavy Frame +2% Armor Repairer Rate/ Lvl of Gallente Heavy Frame +2% Shield HP/ Lvl of Caldari Heavy Frame +2% Shield Recharge Rate/ Lvl of Minmatar Heavy Frame "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:07:00 - [7] - Quote hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. max was just below 40. Because 4 reps capped at 9.5-ish and sent had a 1 HP/sec native repair. there's no possible way you could have ever hit 60 reps. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:09:00 - [8] - Quote While I agree that they should at least have better innate reps, two complex reps should abrir somewhere between 30-35, with 3 in the low forties. Anything more, and no.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:11:00 - [9] - Quote Yeah, the extra 3 percent dmg isn't really great. The Gal has no niche. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 252	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:12:00 - [10] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. max was just below 40. Because 4 reps capped at 9.5-ish and sent had a 1 HP/sec native repair. there's no possible way you could have ever hit 60 reps. Probably true, but I remember at one time armor reps receiving a real crazy buff and my reps were up there. Petition to ban the trainyard map.

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 9	Posted - 2015.05.30 20:18:00 - [11] - Quote hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. max was just below 40. Because 4 reps capped at 9.5-ish and sent had a 1 HP/sec native repair. there's no possible way you could have ever hit 60 reps. Probably true, but I remember at one time armor reps receiving a real crazy buff and my reps were up there. probably about the time reps were buffed from 5 HP/sec to 7.5 HP/Sec (plus bonuses which brought it to a decimel point below 10) WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 253	Posted - 2015.05.30 21:33:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, the extra 3 percent dmg isn't really great. The Gal has no niche. 3% damage and 4 reps are the only benefits, really. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11	Posted - 2015.05.30 21:50:00 - [13] - Quote I said to increase the native repair amount if they were going to take away the slots... Nope, lets just remove it and leave it. Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.30 21:58:00 - [14] - Quote hails8n wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, the extra 3 percent dmg isn't really great. The Gal has no niche. 3% damage and 4 reps are the only benefits, really. The thing is, reps are cool but are kind of pointless when you have Logi support. The only role the Gal sentinel is really suited for is guarding a point and brick tanking which is kind of...sad, since that is the Amarr sentinel's(and he does it far better) Slow, and low stats all the way around make the Gal not be able to perform any role better then any sentinel. Repping at 4 points a second when you have 600 armour is just so meh. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 22:03:00 - [15] - Quote I main Gal Sentinel and I run (only my Advanced) a damage mod, a reactive plate, an armour plate and a rep mod. I don't die easily and I kill frequently. I can move in the front lines and guard the point. Its not about the reps (which I do agree needs to be buffed for Gal Sent) its about how you play your sent. Be smart about it and use cover. Git Gud. Edit: That was to Cody not you OP. Give me my Plasma Flamethrower or give me a cookie!
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4	Posted - 2015.05.30 22:08:00 - [16] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: I main Gal Sentinel and I run (only my Advanced) a damage mod, a reactive plate, an armour plate and a rep mod. I don't die easily and I kill frequently. I can move in the front lines and guard the point. Its not about the reps (which I do agree needs to be buffed for Gal Sent) its about how you play your sent. Be smart about it and use cover. Git Gud. Edit: That was to Cody not you OP. I do fine in the suit as well, but I still don't see how that proves the Gallente sentinel has a niche that no other suit can fill. Maybe try reading what somebody says before you tell someone to "Git Gud" "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 254	Posted - 2015.05.30 22:39:00 - [17] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. max was just below 40. Because 4 reps capped at 9.5-ish and sent had a 1 HP/sec native repair. there's no possible way you could have ever hit 60 reps. Probably true, but I remember at one time armor reps receiving a real crazy buff and my reps were up there. probably about the time reps were buffed from 5 HP/sec to 7.5 HP/Sec (plus bonuses which brought it to a decimel point below 10) So 40 reps, still higher than what we have now. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 255	Posted - 2015.05.30 23:52:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I said to increase the native repair amount if they were going to take away the slots... Nope, lets just remove it and leave it. I was never for the slot layout switch in the 1st place. With a 3/2 layout, amarr wouldn't stack so much hp as they do now and with a 4/1 layout gallente could pull 30+ reps and a plate to have some tank behind the reps. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 415	Posted - 2015.05.31 00:10:00 - [19] - Quote gallente sentinel can be faster with 3 kinkats with more reps, with a PG mod and dmg mod. Gallente can use kinkats and rep mods, a dmg mod and PG mod with better results in ambushing targets from behind compared to amarr sentinels. Gallente has more speed allowing it to move around better and thus more likely to find targets to ambush with dmg mods. Assuming active scanners are not used.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 255	Posted - 2015.05.31 00:33:00 - [20] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: gallente sentinel can be faster with 3 kinkats with more reps, with a PG mod and dmg mod. Gallente can use kinkats and rep mods, a dmg mod and PG mod with better results in ambushing targets from behind compared to amarr sentinels. Gallente has more speed allowing it to move around better and thus more likely to find targets to ambush with dmg mods. Assuming active scanners are not used. You don't need a Pg mod for that fit. Anyways 3 kin cats, a rep, and a damage mod on an amarr heavy will get you more reps, more hp, more stamina, slightly less speed. Petition to ban the trainyard map.

hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 255	Posted - 2015.05.31 02:01:00 - [21] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: I main Gal Sentinel and I run (only my Advanced) a damage mod, a reactive plate, an armour plate and a rep mod. I don't die easily and I kill frequently. I can move in the front lines and guard the point. Its not about the reps (which I do agree needs to be buffed for Gal Sent) its about how you play your sent. Be smart about it and use cover. Git Gud. Edit: That was to Cody not you OP. I do fine in the suit as well, but I still don't see how that proves the Gallente sentinel has a niche that no other suit can fill. Maybe try reading what somebody says before you tell someone to "Git Gud" Gal Sentinel- no niche Petition to ban the trainyard map.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars 417	Posted - 2015.05.31 02:54:00 - [22] - Quote hails8n wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: gallente sentinel can be faster with 3 kinkats with more reps, with a PG mod and dmg mod. Gallente can use kinkats and rep mods, a dmg mod and PG mod with better results in ambushing targets from behind compared to amarr sentinels. Gallente has more speed allowing it to move around better and thus more likely to find targets to ambush with dmg mods. Assuming active scanners are not used. You don't need a Pg mod for that fit. Anyways 3 kin cats, a rep, and a damage mod on an amarr heavy will get you more reps, more hp, more stamina, slightly less speed. I have used 3 proto kinkats and 1 proto rep, with proto weapons and grenades, you don't have any PG left to use a damage mod. (even with optimization 4 for both heavy and sidearm weapons) You need to down grade something to use a damage mod.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 255	Posted - 2015.05.31 03:13:00 - [23] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: hails8n wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: gallente sentinel can be faster with 3 kinkats with more reps, with a PG mod and dmg mod. Gallente can use kinkats and rep mods, a dmg mod and PG mod with better results in ambushing targets from behind compared to amarr sentinels. Gallente has more speed allowing it to move around better and thus more likely to find targets to ambush with dmg mods. Assuming active scanners are not used. You don't need a Pg mod for that fit. Anyways 3 kin cats, a rep, and a damage mod on an amarr heavy will get you more reps, more hp, more stamina, slightly less speed. I have used 3 proto kinkats and 1 proto rep, with proto weapons and grenades, you don't have any PG left to use a damage mod. (even with optimization 4 for both heavy and sidearm weapons) You need to down grade something to use a damage mod. I use 2 adv damage mods. No need for proto, you're only missing out on 2%. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 170	Posted - 2015.05.31 04:11:00 - [24] - Quote hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. there is no suit that can not be one shot killed by a sniper anymore.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 256	Posted - 2015.05.31 18:33:00 - [25] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. there is no suit that can not be one shot killed by a sniper anymore. Stacked out amarr sentinel, ofcourse. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 173	Posted - 2015.05.31 19:20:00 - [26] - Quote hails8n wrote: jace silencerww wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. there is no suit that can not be one shot killed by a sniper anymore. Stacked out amarr sentinel, ofcourse. about a 5-6 months ago yes the gall & amarr sentinel full shield & armor stacked could not be one shot killed with a sniper rifle. but that was then not now lol so with the right fit and sniper rifle it can be one shot killed with a headshot. see the heavy, line up the headshot and bang 60 war points.
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 256	Posted - 2015.05.31 22:05:00 - [27] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: hails8n wrote: jace silencerww wrote: hails8n wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: 1/10 60 reps gave you away instantly Back when Gallente had a 4/1 layout and reps were buffed, I remember having 60 reps on my gallente forgegunner fit. I was invincible to snipers. there is no suit that can not be one shot killed by a sniper anymore. Stacked out amarr sentinel, ofcourse. about a 5-6 months ago yes the gall & amarr sentinel full shield & armor stacked could not be one shot killed with a sniper rifle. but that was then not now lol so with the right fit and sniper rifle it can be one shot killed with a headshot. see the heavy, line up the headshot and bang 60 war points. lol of course it was only for a bit. the hotfix messed it up. I will have to check some math to see if it is still possible with that fit. Probably true. I just don't get very many chances to 1 shot amarr heavies and I use a prof 5 thales,proto cal commando, 3 damage mods, and warbage lv 3. With this fit im doing 440 base damage. 501 against shields and 612 against armor. Now a fully stacked amarr heavy can can pull 1645 hp, 1195 of it armor and 450 shields. I dont know the headshot multiplier, but if its at least x3 thats a definite headshot. Its probably higher than that, so maybe you're right if I knew the multiplier. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
jace silencerww D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 173	Posted - 2015.06.01 01:01:00 - [28] - Quote ^ close but it was only possible when the "Roden" was 550 damage. you can get very close using the "forks" since it has the same headshot damage % as the charge. the thales has the same as the ishukone sr %
hails8n DEATH BY DESTRUCTION 258	Posted - 2015.06.01 02:15:00 - [29] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: ^ close but it was only possible when the "Roden" was 550 damage. you can get very close using the "forks" since it has the same headshot damage % as the charge. the thales has the same as the ishukone sr % Sad, the only sniper rifle that could 1 shot everything and they took that away from it. I had 1 saved up, ready to trade to my sniper alt too. Petition to ban the trainyard map.
Yokal Bob Dead Man's Game 886	Posted - 2015.06.01 02:20:00 - [30] - Quote Ha, not relevant but I glanced at the title and thought it said super creepy eggs xD sorry, as you were. Vote Dust for PS4



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