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THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 22:49:00 - [1] - Quote All fairly good information. The biggest thing that DUST needs to get away from is having racial/role speed profiles overlapping. There's no excuse for the Minmatar assault being faster than the Amarr scout. There's no excuse for the assaults and logistics having different speeds for different roles. I'm okay with a Minmatar suit of the same role being faster than the others but there should be no role overlapping. It makes for power creeps where one suit can not only do it's job but other suit's jobs better as a result. The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 23:11:00 - [2] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I think at the very most, they should BARELY overlap- minmatar logis (that's what it's going to be) being as fast as an amarr scout, but that's the only way they compete. The amarr scout should still be far superior for stamina, regen, and ewar stats Stamina and EWAR sure but the regen on the suit sucks. The suit only has 75 shields and the base armor rep is bad. I'm not completely against it but it will still make the suit into a speed tanked shotgunner. I just want my range amps back The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 23:18:00 - [3] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Ok there is one point I want to make out here. You are corret about minny assault being faster than amarr scout but if the minny assault is fit purely for speed while the amarr scout is stacked then I have no problem. You see, in new eden; at least in some cases; a ship that is fit for speed can outpace a smaller size ship that isnt. For example a well fit stabber with a Microwarp drive can outrun a frigate fit with an afterburner. (Was true a few years back dont know where its at now). My point is you are correct if its only for unfit profiles but not if fitings come into play. Maxed speed light suits should never be outrun by maxed speed assaults (talking distance vs time) But I have no problem with a max speed assault outrunning a non speed modded ferroscale using amarr scout Yeah no. Base is faster. That's the problem. I get ran down by Minmatar assault in 2xkinetic catalyzer fits. Because not only is it possible but it's actually easier to fit on the Minmatar assault. Sure I have more stamina but the Minmatar assault's stamina regens so fast it's arguably a non-issue. The suit as it currently stands plays the scout role better, with more HP. All EWAR but damps and active scans are dead. And sure, the Stabber will be faster than an AB frigate. But the Stabber also is likely to have a full high-grade snakes set and Tengu Skirmish links. The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.05.29 23:36:00 - [4] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Implants are included in max fit. A frigate pilot with snakes can be outrun by a stabber pilot with snakes in the scenario I posted... So I believe and, not because I want to oppose you, that my statement about stabber vs frigate still rings true. Oh I know Just taking a stab(hehehe) at the 1337 solo players lolol. XxGhazbaranxX wrote: BTW you are correct in saying that assaults play betyer scouts than scouts. I use a full kincat 1 stamina mod and get better results than with my gall scout. I would simply give scouts a role bonus to include kncats and cardiac regulators Edit: if its still an issue afyer the assault speed changes Fixing EWAR(making it worthwhile apart from damping) would be a start honestly. Nerfing biotics by 25 percent and tagging it back onto ALL light frames would be nice as well. I'm also pretty sure the upcoming speed changes won't be the end of assaults as most are worried about. People fear change above almost all else. Especially in their favorite video games they no life on The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2015.05.30 01:10:00 - [5] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: EVE Online speeds are related to point and click space ships. Exactly what besides the width of an Amarr backside even remotely resembles a space ship in this game? Answer, nothing any Merc can use or deploy. Well CCP has spent many many years working on the balance between each individual role and race of the ships. There may be some correlation. I mean, we don't have battleships that move faster than the velocity of the missiles they fire anymore The cup is not half empty as pacifists sayyyyyyyyy AIV member.

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