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Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
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Posted - 2015.05.29 04:47:00 -
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So, no surprise, after getting out of Recruit games and being thrown into the general public, I am getting ripped apart by the better geared, more skilled players in Public Contracts, especially the clanned players. I'm assuming this is normal for Dust 514, and that the game takes some settling into and has a learning curve to it. I got my ass kicked quite a bit when I started playing TF2.
But I've learned a few things starting out.
-Don't go alone. Spawn somewhere that has teammates nearby and STAY WITH THEM. Roaming solo is just asking to be killed.
-Don't engage 1v1. I'm not sure how big of a difference the higher gear makes, but with my starter gear I feel like I have absolutely ZERO CHANCE of surviving direct confrontation, so it's better to stay back and support teammates, and scrounge whatever WP you can.
-Since I'm so bad at direct fights (possibly only because of starter gear and I'm not willing to spending ISK on better gear until I know I'm skilled enough to not lose money every match because of redeployment), I stopped trying to engage enemies and instead took up a support role, healing and reviving downed teammates with the Repair Tool and Nanite Injector whenever possible. In doing this I actually started being a lot more productive to my team, keeping important players alive, using fewer of my teams precious clones because of fewer deaths, and getting more WP through Triage/Revivals as a bonus.
Because of this, I'm thinking I may want to focus on a support role in the future, healing and watching out for my teammates instead of trying to actually get kills and contribute DPS. So I think, when my funds and my skill permit it, I'm going to try running Logitechs and focus on Rep/Nanite/Hives. Hopefully this doesn't make me too high of a priority for enemy target selection, I'd think they'd be focused on the guys shooting at them rather than the one guy whose just healing people.
Anyway, yeah, the first few hours have been absolutely brutal so far, and I don't expect it to get smoother anytime soon. It feels like getting started in this game is kinda like a crucible of fire sort of thing, and I just have to tough it out until I get more skill and better loot.
But I'm enjoying it, nonetheless. I got my ass kicked at Dark Souls when I first started playing it, and I'm a beast at it now and still love playing it. So it's my hope that if I just stick with this game and ride out the frustration, I'll get better at it and the game will get more fun. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 05:38:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:OK boy let's get you set. You will want to create another character, these are referred as alts, this character you will make all your mistakes. Focus your skills on cores and try to find a weapon you like and get it leveled up. I advise you join DUST University or Immortal Guides. They are the only corps worth a damn at your level.
I WANT to master a shotgun, but from what I've seen so far, the maps are just too damn big and open to play well to any sort of close-range weaponry. I could only use one effectively if I was camping an objective. But so far, the Scrambler Rifle looks pretty good, reminds me of the Covenant Carbine in Halo 2. I have to make a choice I guess though, because from what I hear, Logi's only have ONE weapon slot.
I'll check out the two corps you recommended. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 05:46:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:What hours do you play? I have siblings that are starting fresh characters (they have about 13 mill sp), they are also doing starter fit logis and putting their skill points into sentinels.
Planning your sp tree in the beginning is major.
I'm not really sure I spent it right. I got Dropsuit Upgrades 2, Shield, Core, and Armor Upgrades 2, and Weaponry 5.
My best time to play is at night. I have a pretty active college schedule. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 06:30:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:By the way, send me a message here on the forums so I don't forget. I wanna throw some gear at you to help get you started. I won't be able to get on my PS3 until the 4th or 5th, so expect some donations then.
[Edit] Actually, I don't even know if these forums are PM capable. I've never actually done anything on here. Send Luka the Otter an in-game message, then, and I'll get back to you.
That's cool man, I appreciate it, but I don't really need handouts. I've never liked getting freebies from people, just makes me feel like a thief.
I seem to be doing a little better though, now that I'm staying with people and not engaging in firefights unless it's to assist someone else. I'm not dying quite as often, and that can only be a good thing for my team. I'm gonna apply to DUST University so I can get some pointers from more experienced players.
I've saved up almost 2 million ISK. I might start buying some basic militia gear soon, at least some scrambler rifles. I can get kills with the Starter Medic's rifle if I have an opportunity, but it's usually bad if the target returns fire. In the meantime, I'll save my SP now for Shield/Armor and Nanohives. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 16:47:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney wrote:So, no surprise, after getting out of Recruit games and being thrown into the general public, I am getting ripped apart by the better geared, more skilled players in Public Contracts, especially the clanned players. I'm assuming this is normal for Dust 514, and that the game takes some settling into and has a learning curve to it. I got my ass kicked quite a bit when I started playing TF2.
But I've learned a few things starting out.
-Don't go alone. Spawn somewhere that has teammates nearby and STAY WITH THEM. Roaming solo is just asking to be killed.
-Don't engage 1v1. I'm not sure how big of a difference the higher gear makes, but with my starter gear I feel like I have absolutely ZERO CHANCE of surviving direct confrontation, so it's better to stay back and support teammates, and scrounge whatever WP you can.
-Since I'm so bad at direct fights (possibly only because of starter gear and I'm not willing to spending ISK on better gear until I know I'm skilled enough to not lose money every match because of redeployment), I stopped trying to engage enemies and instead took up a support role, healing and reviving downed teammates with the Repair Tool and Nanite Injector whenever possible. In doing this I actually started being a lot more productive to my team, keeping important players alive, using fewer of my teams precious clones because of fewer deaths, and getting more WP through Triage/Revivals as a bonus.
Because of this, I'm thinking I may want to focus on a support role in the future, healing and watching out for my teammates instead of trying to actually get kills and contribute DPS. So I think, when my funds and my skill permit it, I'm going to try running Logitechs and focus on Rep/Nanite/Hives. Hopefully this doesn't make me too high of a priority for enemy target selection, I'd think they'd be focused on the guys shooting at them rather than the one guy whose just healing people.
Anyway, yeah, the first few hours have been absolutely brutal so far, and I don't expect it to get smoother anytime soon. It feels like getting started in this game is kinda like a crucible of fire sort of thing, and I just have to tough it out until I get more skill and better loot.
But I'm enjoying it, nonetheless. I got my ass kicked at Dark Souls when I first started playing it, and I'm a beast at it now and still love playing it. So it's my hope that if I just stick with this game and ride out the frustration, I'll get better at it and the game will get more fun. IDK how well you're going to fit in here, you're being logical lol Yeah Dust doesn't have a learning 'curve' so much as a cliff, chances are right now 1v1 you'll just get your ass handed to you but if you enjoy running logi all the power to you, a good logi is a major asset. feel free to shoot me a mssg in game if you wanna squad up, it's nice to get new blood in the game.
My new blood is painting the dirt as I speak.
When should I start spending ISK on militia gear? I don't want to start spending 10k per deployment until I know I can break even on the K/D ratio or at least not lose money every match. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 19:03:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney wrote:When should I start spending ISK on militia gear? I don't want to start spending 10k per deployment until I know I can break even on the K/D ratio or at least not lose money every match. Only spend ISK on militia gear to get to know the weapon. Play around a bit, and if you find one you like spend one (1) skill point for the weapon of choice, and buy Standard gear (STD) instead. Militia is harder to fit (consume more CPU and PG) and have worse stats and performance. Other than that, I echo the other posts that dropsuite core skills are where you want to place the majority of your skill points in the beginning. But don't take anything past level 3 (initially), as you get diminishing return for a shitload of SP. it's not worth it...
Yeah, I definitely like the Scrambler Rifle. High damage and accurate, just gotta worry about overheating for the most part.
Hopefully there's some support Logis that have two weapon slots so I can run a shotgun alongside a scrambler when I reach that point. |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:06:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:100% vet alt. My fist thought exactly. But if I see him/her on the battlefield when I'm tinkering in my alt, I'll see for sure.
What does that mean? |
Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 20:42:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Foxhound3857 Loadsamoney wrote:Songs of Seraphim wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:100% vet alt. My fist thought exactly. But if I see him/her on the battlefield when I'm tinkering in my alt, I'll see for sure. What does that mean? It means they don't believe you are a new player, but rather an Veteran who created another new character (of the three you have available = Alts). True or not, there are good people here who just want to help. That being said, there are ALSO a lot of scammers and trolls which would just love to rip you off and leave you in the dirt, so I don't blame them for being cautious. Don't trust anybody blindly in New Eden!
They can believe what they want then. If people really think I'm actually a vet playing an alt, I say those people are pretty gutless and probably not a good influence to be around. |
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