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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:17:00 -
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There have been a few people saying that when/if the Assault Suits speed gets nerfed, Logis would make a comeback. Now, I will explain to you why that is not going to happen. Lets just say that the update was released and Assaults we slowed down, let us compare what the Logistics would look like compared to the assaults:
Logistics: Slow No Sidearm Slot Low Base HP Slower Recharge/Repair Rates More Equipment Slots
Assault: (After Update) Slow Sidearm Slot High Base HP Faster Recharge/Repair Rates Less Equipment Slots
This information clearly shows that even if the speed of the Assault suits does get nerfed, they would still be better slayers than the Logis.
The Logistics simply doesn't have enough base HP to keep it alive so you have to stack Plates/Extenders but that would result in the Logistics being even slower than the Assaults. And let's not forget that the Logistics doesn't have a Sidearm Slot!
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:23:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners
Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....!
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:25:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners
Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more experienced...."Who needs sidearms...."
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:26:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:There have been a few people saying that when/if the Assault Suits speed gets nerfed, Logis would make a comeback. Now, I will explain to you why that is not going to happen. Lets just say that the update was released and Assaults we slowed down, let us compare what the Logistics would look like compared to the assaults: Logistics: Slow No Sidearm Slot Low Base HP Slower Recharge/Repair Rates More Equipment Slots Assault: (After Update) Slow Sidearm Slot High Base HP Faster Recharge/Repair Rates Less Equipment Slots This information clearly shows that even if the speed of the Assault suits does get nerfed, they would still be better slayers than the Logis. The Logistics simply doesn't have enough base HP to keep it alive so you have to stack Plates/Extenders but that would result in the Logistics being even slower than the Assaults. And let's not forget that the Logistics doesn't have a Sidearm Slot! We Logis could just stack Ferros which have no movement Penalty then just add Armor reps. :3
Oh right I forgot about those, ok go ahead and stack some of them, maybe you would be able to get more than 300 armor with descent reps.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:27:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Better base eWar stats for Logis...
More CPU/PG...
Fair point.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:28:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! He's not new to dust, because at one point slayer Logis were a thing. The only thing that stopped them was a buff to assaults and scouts.
He might not be new but you seem to be, I use to be a Slayer Logi myself, not only did the Assault and Scout get buffed but the Logis got nerfed, I know, but ether way Slayer Logis will not come back, not with this update at least, and if they do, don't worry my ck.0 Assault will take care of it :)
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners
Oh watch out hard man, ok when I see your Logi I will watch out, I wouldn't wanna get killed by those uplinks of yous, heard they can be dangerous, even more lethal than a sidearm.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:44:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Wooo, letGÇÖs do this!
Too bad I run Dampeners on my Assault isn't it?
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:48:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! If you don't know who Heimdallr69 is you obviously have not been around long enough to make that insult. And Heimdallr, I'm right there with you, setting up a slayer logi right now myself.
You 2 make me laugh, so you are saying that a Sidearm is not needed, and if you think CCP hasn't considered the changes then you must be really stupid. CCP wouldn't make the same mistake twice, everyone saw what Slayer Logis can do, I use to be one, I know, and you know it too.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:50:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! He's not new to dust, because at one point slayer Logis were a thing. The only thing that stopped them was a buff to assaults and scouts. He might not be new but you seem to be, I use to be a Slayer Logi myself, not only did the Assault and Scout get buffed but the Logis got nerfed, I know, but ether way Slayer Logis will not come back, not with this update at least, and if they do, don't worry my ck.0 Assault will take care of it :) I've been here for awhile, and I remember the slayer Logi well. It got its bonuses changed around and one of them was not getting 5 hp back a second(which was partially rectified with the base armour repair being applied to all suits now) Myself and most people here will be shelving their assaults in favor of Logis come the next big update. Rolling around with 800 ehp(what I currently have) better scan radius, 23-24 armour repair and proto scans for days seems like a obvious upgrade.
Man you are not very clever are you, do you think CCP would make it so that Logis can have that armour and repait.....no you are not very clever. Why would they make the Support Role be better at slaying than the assault role??? Tell me?
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:50:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Yes, who needs a sidearm when you can equip nanohive? Slaylogis making a comeback! And the Gallente shall be the optimal slaylogi!!
Oh, Ok, next time I'm having a gunfight with someone and my Primary weapon's clip runs out, instead of pulling out my Ishukone Assault SMG, I will out my K-2 Nanohive and throw it at the enemy.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:51:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I'm looking forward to watching TryHards attempt to convert Logi suits into slayers. With the CPU/PG nerf coming along side the speed buff, it will be entertaining to say the least.
Ikr Look at them, they are trying to make themselves believe that the Logis can slay better than an assault
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 17:59:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Wooo, letGÇÖs do this! Too bad I run Dampeners on my Assault isn't it? So your HP is pitiful? Excellent.
So I have 600 Shield and sprint speed of 8.5 m/s
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 18:27:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Wooo, letGÇÖs do this! Too bad I run Dampeners on my Assault isn't it? So your HP is pitiful? Excellent. So I have 600 Shield and sprint speed of 8.5 m/s Why don't you two just pull your dicks out and measure them? It would save the rest of us from your incessant arguing.
Lol, I'm bulgarian, that won't be fair
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:08:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! Deadly, he's obviously a professional. You are the one that is new to FPS. Nobody precise and accurate with their bullets needs a side arm other than spray and pray scrubs.
Ha, I'm new to FPS, been playing FPS games since I was 7, and you are wrong, what if you have more than one guy, even with 100% accuracy you are fcked. Stop trying to look clever, everyone knows a sidearm is extremely useful, especially if you are using a long range weapon like the RR or LR.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:13:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! Deadly, he's obviously a professional. You are the one that is new to FPS. Nobody good and accurate with their bullets needs a side arm other than spray and pray scrubs. If you can finish the job with your main then a side arm is redundancy. It is only useful in hard fought strafing 1v1s... and Heimdallr excels at avoiding that and killing people before that becomes necessary. Deadly Goliath, you have 0 knowledge of Dust history and what an overpowered suit the logi became... 1200 ehp Min Logis with hack bonuses and damage mods... nearly unstoppable Cal Logis with the TAC AR (in fact, that suit caused all of the initial nerfing that is being corrected today... shield nerfs, ar nerf, tac ar became nearly worthless vs alternates, etc). As well, Heimdallr started the gal logi fit that ran PC for 2 months about a year ago... an active armor tank suit with over 150 HP regen per tick... so I have a feeling he knows a bit more than you do on this subject.
Watch how you talk, I was one of those Min Logis. And any good player knows that a Sidearm is a very big part of a suit, especially if you plan on taking down multiple enemies all at once. You have 0 knowledge of FPS games if you think that a sidearm is not needed. Noob if you are not going to accept you are wrong, then at least be quiet.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:15:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Yes, who needs a sidearm when you can equip nanohive? Slaylogis making a comeback! And the Gallente shall be the optimal slaylogi!! Oh, Ok, next time I'm having a gunfight with someone and my Primary weapon's clip runs out, instead of pulling out my Ishukone Assault SMG, I will out my K-2 Nanohive and throw it at the enemy. The key to being sarcastic is that you can't sound stupid by attempting such. There's reason why there's a HUD bro.
No, I was serious, yesterday got a triple kill with the Militia nanohive
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:29:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! Deadly, he's obviously a professional. You are the one that is new to FPS. Nobody precise and accurate with their bullets needs a side arm other than spray and pray scrubs. Ha, I'm new to FPS, been playing FPS games since I was 7, and you are wrong, what if you have more than one guy, even with 100% accuracy you are fcked. Stop trying to look clever, everyone knows a sidearm is extremely useful, especially if you are using a long range weapon like the RR or LR. After reading this, I have now realized you're a scrub forum warrior. No good player, or any player who knows how to watch his ammo count and hide, absolutely needs a sidearm. There were mercenaries who has played this game longer than you, in the days of Cal slayer logis who needed no sidearm. Back when one man logi squads could get an OB on their own. You don't just run out of ammo and 5 reds teleport to your location. Seasoned vets know how to attack and how not to place themselves in stupid positions. So on behalf of seasoned vets and Heim, sit down scrub. Summer school sessions are starting soon...
LOL, I've been called worse by better! As I said again,back in that day Logis had extremely high health and repair/recharge and assaults, heavys and scouts weren't good, it wasn't hard for a logi to dominate. But now it is different, other suits can fight back and a logis will get destroyed even if they sprint faster. Doesn't matter how accurate you are, when two three guys walk up to you and you have your RR out, shoot as much as you want, you ain't gunna drop all of them that is why you do need a sidearm.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:35:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Already have my slayer logi fit made, just waiting for that speed buff..you obviously didn't pay attention to the part where logis will be faster than assaults..who needs a sidearm? Now I can have links and scanners Well you are clearly new to FPS games, come back when you are more expirienced...."Who needs sidearms....! If you don't know who Heimdallr69 is you obviously have not been around long enough to make that insult. And Heimdallr, I'm right there with you, setting up a slayer logi right now myself. i am thinking of a slayer logi right now. Back then we did not even need a side arm when logi slayers were a thing. One of the best FC's in the game was a logi slayer.
I couldn't agree more, I was a slayer Logi myself, but now it would be diffrent, Logis wouldn't have the health they had back inthe day, assaults would outgun them.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 20:55:00 -
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We'll see
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:13:00 -
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[/quote]Why should i run an assault when my gall logi has more equipment slots to fit my wirykomi reps and a scanner. I dont know about you but getting ewar as a bonus just defeats the purpose of running an assault. Health? what does health matter? i can kill anyone running a sh*t basic gall quafe bpo fit. I am sorry but people like me doesn't need a reason to run an inferior suit which the assault suits are going to be. [/quote]
You are quite confident aren't you, I remember beating you on a 1 on 1 gunfight a few times on ambush
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.28 21:25:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Deadly Goliath wrote: CCP wouldn't make the same mistake twice How new is this dude. Just look at the history of tanks, Just stop posting baby, your only personifying your ignorance and naivety for all to see
Good point
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.29 00:00:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Why should i run an assault when my gall logi has more equipment slots to fit my wirykomi reps and a scanner. I dont know about you but getting ewar as a bonus just defeats the purpose of running an assault. Health? what does health matter? i can kill anyone running a sh*t basic gall quafe bpo fit. I am sorry but people like me doesn't need a reason to run an inferior suit which the assault suits are going to be.
Not even for the pride of doing something because it's hard. A river is crooked because it takes the easiest path. lol you have no idea the things ive done.
And you have no idea about the things I have done, ether way we'll see what happens to the logis.
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Deadly Goliath
Omega Warlords
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Posted - 2015.05.29 12:29:00 -
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Jack the Rlpper wrote:Deadly Goliath your a stuck up prick who thinks he knows everything ey. Ive seen you down a few smart fellers round here and say some dumb ass **** can't wait to meet you on the field and "whip ya head boy"
Some people will always have something to say and nothing to contribute, people like you. Calling people names through a computer screen is easy isn't it. Everyone has his own opinion, if you don't want to hear mine, why did you click on the thread. Instead of trying to break me, go fix yourself.
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