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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2015.05.27 14:47:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:Rise of the scout
For me it will be the rise of the logi. More equipment, better scan range and hacking speed! And all I have to sacrifice is... Nothing!
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Posted - 2015.05.27 15:40:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:What's CCP's stated goal/intent behind this? I'd be curious to read it.
I can't really see what this is supposed to accomplish.
Because it looks pretty on paper, that's what I got from it. It's in the feedback section:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203785&find=unread
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Posted - 2015.05.27 17:47:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Say what? Because their movement speeds are inconsistent with their eHP, assaults and logis are getting their speeds swapped.
Absolutely! It is time we had slayer logis again, they have been sorely missed. After people get tired of them, we need to nerf the logi in order to buff the scouts. When people have yet again gotten tired of the beefy scouts, I think itGÇÖs time we bring the HMG back while kicking scouts in the teeth! Yeah, thatGÇÖll show them scouts. And then we look at all them heavies everywhere and might remember that having assaults in assault suits was a pretty good thing.
Buffing anything at the expense of another is never a good thing.
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:35:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Say what? Because their movement speeds are inconsistent with their eHP, assaults and logis are getting their speeds swapped. Absolutely! It is time we had slayer logis again, they have been sorely missed. After people get tired of them, we need to nerf the logi in order to buff the scouts. When people have yet again gotten tired of the beefy scouts, I think itGÇÖs time we bring the HMG back while kicking scouts in the teeth! Yeah, thatGÇÖll show them scouts. And then we look at all them heavies everywhere and might remember that having assaults in assault suits was a pretty good thing. Buffing anything at the expense of another is never a good thing. It isn't buffing one thing at the expense of another, and it's not just assaults and logis. Rattati wanted to normalize the ratio between eHP and speed, so a lot of suits got changed, just assaults and logis are the most noticeable change. Thread here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203785&find=unread
I know the thread, you can find few of my responses there.
And it is buffing at the expense of another, quite literally. You are taking assaultGÇÖs speed and giving it to the logis. I have no problem with logis getting a speed buff, none at all, but I do have a problem with taking it away from the assaults. Why must we buff one suit by taking it away from another? Why not give logis more speed without touching the assaults? One little thing at a time would be much better.
Those speed values for assaults on RattatiGÇÖs graphs are heartbreakingly low. We have seen where it leads us when assault suits are lacklustre in comparison to others.
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Posted - 2015.05.27 20:17:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:I know the thread, you can find few of my responses there.
And it is buffing at the expense of another, quite literally. You are taking assaultGÇÖs speed and giving it to the logis. I have no problem with logis getting a speed buff, none at all, but I do have a problem with taking it away from the assaults. Why must we buff one suit by taking it away from another? Why not give logis more speed without touching the assaults? One little thing at a time would be much better.
Those speed values for assaults on RattatiGÇÖs graphs are heartbreakingly low. We have seen where it leads us when assault suits are lacklustre in comparison to others.
They aren't buffing one BY nerfing the other, it's buffing one WHILE nerfing the other. It's completely re-thinking how things work, not a simple buff or nerf. I agree that assaults need to stand out from commandos more, but this change makes sense.
If assaults were to receive a tiny nerf to their speed while logis were buffed you might have a point. As it stands though, logis are being buffed at the expense of assaults. After this change my Gallente assault will have the speed of a Gallente logi, while that logi is out enjoying the speed my assault used to have.
Assaults and logis are both medium suits and directly compete with each other. ItGÇÖs a very fine line between them and speed is crucial in this game. Why use a gimped assault suit when thereGÇÖs a logi suit with bountiful equipment and other bonuses just waiting to be used.
But worry not effendi, I have all roles protoGÇÖd through variety of races, I will adapt. IGÇÖm just saddened that my dear four eyes may become just a suit I stare at in my merc quarters.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 15:52:00 -
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Deadly Goliath wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Rise of the scout For me it will be the rise of the logi. More equipment, better scan range and hacking speed! And all I have to sacrifice is... Nothing! Really, so you don't count the fact that you don't have a sidearm, oh and run slower?
I run Amarr logi, don't worry, the sidearm isn't going anywhere. And I care about movement, not sprint. With logi I'll have the ability to strafe which in combat is much more crucial than running fast. But I have already planned a beefy scout too, so I'm all set.
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