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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.05.27 17:18:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Say what?
Because their movement speeds are inconsistent with their eHP, assaults and logis are getting their speeds swapped.
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:18:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Say what? Because their movement speeds are inconsistent with their eHP, assaults and logis are getting their speeds swapped. Absolutely! It is time we had slayer logis again, they have been sorely missed. After people get tired of them, we need to nerf the logi in order to buff the scouts. When people have yet again gotten tired of the beefy scouts, I think itGÇÖs time we bring the HMG back while kicking scouts in the teeth! Yeah, thatGÇÖll show them scouts. And then we look at all them heavies everywhere and might remember that having assaults in assault suits was a pretty good thing. Buffing anything at the expense of another is never a good thing.
It isn't buffing one thing at the expense of another, and it's not just assaults and logis.
Rattati wanted to normalize the ratio between eHP and speed, so a lot of suits got changed, just assaults and logis are the most noticeable change.
Thread here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203785&find=unread
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.05.27 19:51:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sleepy Shadow wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Say what? Because their movement speeds are inconsistent with their eHP, assaults and logis are getting their speeds swapped. Absolutely! It is time we had slayer logis again, they have been sorely missed. After people get tired of them, we need to nerf the logi in order to buff the scouts. When people have yet again gotten tired of the beefy scouts, I think itGÇÖs time we bring the HMG back while kicking scouts in the teeth! Yeah, thatGÇÖll show them scouts. And then we look at all them heavies everywhere and might remember that having assaults in assault suits was a pretty good thing. Buffing anything at the expense of another is never a good thing. It isn't buffing one thing at the expense of another, and it's not just assaults and logis. Rattati wanted to normalize the ratio between eHP and speed, so a lot of suits got changed, just assaults and logis are the most noticeable change. Thread here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=203785&find=unread I know the thread, you can find few of my responses there. And it is buffing at the expense of another, quite literally. You are taking assaultGÇÖs speed and giving it to the logis. I have no problem with logis getting a speed buff, none at all, but I do have a problem with taking it away from the assaults. Why must we buff one suit by taking it away from another? Why not give logis more speed without touching the assaults? One little thing at a time would be much better. Those speed values for assaults on RattatiGÇÖs graphs are heartbreakingly low. We have seen where it leads us when assault suits are lacklustre in comparison to others.
They aren't buffing one BY nerfing the other, it's buffing one WHILE nerfing the other.
It's completely re-thinking how things work, not a simple buff or nerf.
I agree that assaults need to stand out from commandos more, but this change makes sense.
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.05.27 20:15:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:I look forward to watching TryHards attempt to convert a suit with less HP than an Amarr Scout into a slayer fit. A much more expensive fit than an Assault fit as well. You mean like scouts have been doing since forever? Like Ive been saying: Speed and HP are not the only stats on your suits. Balancing as if they are is not going to get you a balanced game, its going to get you either a boring game (if you strip out everything but speed and HP to have actual balance) or an imbalanced one (if you leave in dampening/scanning/equipment/etc dominance).
Scouts have an eWar advantage, logis don't.
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