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Pokey Dravon wrote:

Pseudogenesis wrote:

Devadander wrote:

The slot count idea is the corner nail in the coffin. Having this setup on vehicles made the tiers worthless.

Running basic/adv is pointless, they feel like junk. Further pushing veterans into a pro or no stance.
If power cores can change slot count, its the game changer we need.

Tiericide = last step into vanilla lobby shooter world. Ugh

Lore and fancy names won't save it.

What? This is literally the opposite of what you're describing. This would make Basic and Advanced suits more powerful while leaving Proto suits at the same level they're at now.

Some people seem to think that slot count is the only thing that makes Proto suits powerful. Cause, ya know, those APEX suits make Proto totally pointless right now Roll

/sarcasm

As you said Pseudogenesis, all this really does is bring the bottom up and keep Proto exactly where it is. I think it will do wonders for the overall experience by decreasing the power gap between tiers in a responsible manner.


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Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 06:24:00 - [1] - Quote The slot count idea is the corner nail in the coffin. Having this setup on vehicles made the tiers worthless. Running basic/adv is pointless, they feel like junk. Further pushing veterans into a pro or no stance. If power cores can change slot count, its the game changer we need. Tiericide = last step into vanilla lobby shooter world. Lore and fancy names won't save it. "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:05:00 - [2] - Quote Skill HAV and you will understand. You guys are thinking this will make your suits op. So not the case. Maybe ratty will be nicer to suits than vehicles... Yup, all tiers have same awesome slot count. To keep you from packing a std hav with pro mods, the pg/CPU is not forgiving. You will fill those extra slots with pg CPU mods and be one module cooler for double the idk. Your std will be as std as ever, your adv sure won't feel adv, and pro will still hand you your waste processing unit. Veterans with max skills will fit well above average suits of the tier you are trying to grind as a NP. Thus, the stdstomp is born. I run adv 90% of the time and will just go pro 100%. All the time. My best gear. In every mode. I can afford it. A lot of them cannot. Veterans are all for this.... I wonder why? Because it makes the game better? Because it enhances npe? More memory for other assets? Lolno. Because they see the opportunity to fit an officer weapon on a std suit, with above adv strength. Killing a pro with a std is currently a mark of skill. All I'm sayin dude. You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:10:00 - [3] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: My plan is to see if I can roll out the first part of this, for Commandos and Logistics, and hit 3 birds with one stone. That would remove slot progression, and define the true PG/CPU per layer. When I am able to get a Power Core module in (needs a client update), then phase 2 is the replacement of dropsuits with Power Cores. And please don't get it twisted, I LOVE the core idea! To me this speaks of seeing a pilot suit finally. Maybe a cal heavy weapon anti infantry. Calling it the research facility and not the lag facility. I just hate what tiericide did to the HAV and want to save us all from having it happen to suits. Up with cores! Down with tiericide! "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:14:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Devadander wrote: The slot count idea is the corner nail in the coffin. Having this setup on vehicles made the tiers worthless. Running basic/adv is pointless, they feel like junk. Further pushing veterans into a pro or no stance. If power cores can change slot count, its the game changer we need. Tiericide = last step into vanilla lobby shooter world. Lore and fancy names won't save it. What? This is literally the opposite of what you're describing. This would make Basic and Advanced suits more powerful while leaving Proto suits at the same level they're at now. Some people seem to think that slot count is the only thing that makes Proto suits powerful. Cause, ya know, those APEX suits make Proto totally pointless right now /sarcasm As you said Pseudogenesis, all this really does is bring the bottom up and keep Proto exactly where it is. I think it will do wonders for the overall experience by decreasing the power gap between tiers in a responsible manner. A properly fit rasetsu with skills feels like cheating at 47k a pop.... "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:19:00 - [5] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Devadander wrote: You will fill those extra slots with pg CPU mods and be one module cooler for double the idk. Except PG and CPU mods have additional costs now, so I mean sure you could put a proto CPU mod on a standard suit, but its going to suck a ton of PG that your suit doesn't have. So you fit a proto PG mod to counteract that issue, which is now sucking the CPU that you gained from the CPU mod. I mean you' throwing a shitfit about the numbers when you dont have the numbers yet. So your argument is completely invalid at this point until you have more information. I do indeed have a model for basing my argument. 30 mil into HAV. I am more than sure suits will get away with more than HAV does, but still. Well that backfired because we had no std adv pro hav before...... "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 285	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:28:00 - [6] - Quote shrugs Just feels like next step is " well, its all close enough, let's just have one suit class " Enter CoD... "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 287	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:42:00 - [7] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Devadander wrote: shrugs Just feels like next step is " well, its all close enough, let's just have one suit class " Enter CoD... Slippery slope fallacy doesn't do much to improve the quality of discourse here. And esoteric rhetoric impresses me not. "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 287	Posted - 2015.05.26 07:47:00 - [8] - Quote On the constructive side. The graphic says red for adv, um, commando? "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 287	Posted - 2015.05.26 08:15:00 - [9] - Quote What's really eating me now is wondering about all my assets. Will I get balac cores in place of my balacs? Do we have to purchase the bpo suits? If we already have pro, do we have to buy this skin? If cores cost more/less, do we get adjusted assets to reflect? shivers will it just be a mass asset refund like in the past? Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 287	Posted - 2015.05.26 15:52:00 - [10] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: My only concern is that you lay out a proper course of what you will do with the BPO dropsuits players have already purchased. My prefered course of action would be that each dropsuit BPO gets converted into a power core BPO and a skin BPO. I love everything else about this proposal and support it. Yes, some of us have multiples of the same BPO. Hoping those survive into the tradable era. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~

Devadander Woodgrain Atari 287	Posted - 2015.05.26 16:08:00 - [11] - Quote Love the skins, love the cores, don't care for tiericide... But I will htfu. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~