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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:16:00 -
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So I've been keeping this to myself for a while but now it's time to vent my frustrations...pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive..we put that time and effort in for the isk and competition...we didn't put the time in for no isk and to fight laggy corps, it's not worth the time anymore..just go look at how many legit pc's are going on compared to a year ago..good fights is not a good enough incentive for us to put in all the effort just to lag/hard freeze or drop to 1fps...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
Rant over...still frustrated though...
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:20:00 -
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Not much of a rant...more a sitting of stated facts tbh.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:23:00 -
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Wait for PC 2.0: it might spice things up again.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
175
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:So I've been keeping this to myself for a while but now it's time to vent my frustrations...pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive..we put that time and effort in for the isk and competition...we didn't put the time in for no isk and to fight laggy corps, it's not worth the time anymore..just go look at how many legit pc's are going on compared to a year ago..good fights is not a good enough incentive for us to put in all the effort just to lag/hard freeze or drop to 1fps...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
Rant over...still frustrated though...
have you tried the other contracts tab? its pretty fun, I prefer it over pubs, you get in fast and most games are pretty balanced with either side only having a slight lead most of the time |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:29:00 -
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PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub
Im just a glorified blueberry
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:41:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:So I've been keeping this to myself for a while but now it's time to vent my frustrations...pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive..we put that time and effort in for the isk and competition...we didn't put the time in for no isk and to fight laggy corps, it's not worth the time anymore..just go look at how many legit pc's are going on compared to a year ago..good fights is not a good enough incentive for us to put in all the effort just to lag/hard freeze or drop to 1fps...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
Rant over...still frustrated though...
you are better off playing on a pc or your xbox one heim, i only use my ps3 for netflix anymore
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:47:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub Yeah after 4 years...still hearing "be patient".."soon"
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:50:00 -
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Pubs are unplayable. No matter how many times I say it, it still amazes me that people turn on a video game and don't play it. I really hope this new suit/core thing works out because the risk/reward/incentive dynamic has turned the majority of Dust players into anything but mercenaries or fighters. I'm picturing accountants being drug kicking and screaming on the battlefield and stuck in a cage in a foxhole. Just crying their little eyes out that people are shooting at them.
FW isn't always an option and competition is low most of the time. Yet it's the only relatively persistent way to ensure that you aren't deploying with a bunch of window lickers.
PC is just too much work for one fight. It relies on a handful of people doing an unrealistic amount of work for a 30 minute fight. You can have 40 people in a channel for a PC and if one of those handful of people aren't online the entire corp might fall apart. Nobody will ever convince me that persistent battles wouldn't be much more fun. I'd like to see public raids on PC districts (perhaps this could be triggered by a war dec to keep your enemy overwhelmed) or something.
I want to be able to join a team and be able to play with that team until I log off. I'm finished playing pubs in squads where you have to play like your life depends on it to carry your blues to victory.
Everyone always has these big ideas and things they want added, etc, but the biggest issue facing this game is that this playerbase simply does not want to fight each other. They just want to passively accrue all these resources and assets.
Thor's Emporium
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.05.23 20:51:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub Yeah after 4 years...still hearing "be patient".."soon" I promise you >:P
If PC 2.0 isnt out by the time Dust ends ill buy a Crapboxone
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:02:00 -
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I'm waiting for tiericide.
I have a funny feeling it is the core issue that has plagued DUST since uprisings release.
We'll see if I Am right.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:05:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I'm waiting for tiericide.
I have a funny feeling it is the core issue that has plagued DUST since uprisings release.
We'll see if I Am right.
I think that it should fix it, but I worry that the pacifists just can't be cured.
Thor's Emporium
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:12:00 -
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Have a beer, talk with people. And then have a battle from time to time.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
6
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:16:00 -
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PC wasn't interesting before CCP "killed it" by stopping the farm.
FW needs some more unique items, like the specialist gear.
Some details can be ignored
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub Yeah after 4 years...still hearing "be patient".."soon" But you have to admit things have been better this past year or so than they were before in terms of development.
No more developing and uploading features that won't come into fruition until something else gets developed while neglecting balance.
No more telling us something will be awesome then never getting to it.
At least now I have confidence something that is said to be worked on is being worked on and that it gets released in a reasonable time frame.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:46:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:PC wasn't interesting before CCP "killed it" by stopping the farm.
FW needs some more unique items, like the specialist gear.
That's just not true. The meta in PC was all consuming. To be honest the farms were a response to total domination by small groups of elites. We started farming when I was in ML wayyyy back in the day so we wouldn't be behind in ISK too be able to fight when mechanics were tweaked. The tweaks never came. By the end of 2013 there weren't enough people involved to keep it from the same people fighting over mostly other people's districts.
The mechanics and the lack of logistical tools in game put too much work on too few. People would burn out even after success. Those that lost eventually imploded. Each time fewer and fewer people involved. Eventually you had to farm to generate the ISK to make people want to put up with it at all.
By now I mostly see PC folks wanting to show up 20 minutes before a battle and have everything run like a well oiled machine. When that doesn't happen a chunk of your people just stop showing up.
Really this is the reason I disagreed with Rattati touching on PC first. I don't think there's enough people willing to take on that load no matter how much better the rewards/mechanics become.
Thor's Emporium
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:49:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub He's a vet dude, seeing as he is still playing this game he has been patient enough.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:55:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub He's a vet dude, seeing as he is still playing this game he has been patient enough. No really, he is one of the very first few to play this game. To have played this game for so long, get your hopes up by the devs then have them shattered then repeat this for a few more times you have to give this dude some credit for not smashing his ps3 already No.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Diesel Heat seeker
UKheadhunters
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Posted - 2015.05.23 21:58:00 -
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Thor, I run a 3 man cor with all closed beta vets. Give me a shout, you are more than welcome to join or to squad up with no strings attached. Tc dude
When all the red dots are away, all the blueberries can come out and play...
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hold that
Capital Acquisitions LLC
821
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Posted - 2015.05.23 22:05:00 -
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yeah i stopped playing, PC was the only thing i was interested in. at 94 mil sp and so few modes i started to really dislike the game and found it straight up boring. hopefully PC v 2.0 will fix it. |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.05.23 22:07:00 -
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hold that wrote:yeah i stopped playing, PC was the only thing i was interested in. at 94 mil sp and so few modes i started to really dislike the game and found it straight up boring. hopefully PC v 2.0 will fix it.
PC v 2.0 sounds interesting...
Anyone mind telling me whats coming in PC v 2.0?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
486
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Posted - 2015.05.23 22:08:00 -
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thor424 wrote:Pubs are unplayable. No matter how many times I say it, it still amazes me that people turn on a video game and don't play it. I really hope this new suit/core thing works out because the risk/reward/incentive dynamic has turned the majority of Dust players into anything but mercenaries or fighters. I'm picturing accountants being drug kicking and screaming on the battlefield and stuck in a cage in a foxhole. Just crying their little eyes out that people are shooting at them.
FW isn't always an option and competition is low most of the time. Yet it's the only relatively persistent way to ensure that you aren't deploying with a bunch of window lickers.
PC is just too much work for one fight. It relies on a handful of people doing an unrealistic amount of work for a 30 minute fight. You can have 40 people in a channel for a PC and if one of those handful of people aren't online the entire corp might fall apart. Nobody will ever convince me that persistent battles wouldn't be much more fun. I'd like to see public raids on PC districts (perhaps this could be triggered by a war dec to keep your enemy overwhelmed) or something.
I want to be able to join a team and be able to play with that team until I log off. I'm finished playing pubs in squads where you have to play like your life depends on it to carry your blues to victory.
Everyone always has these big ideas and things they want added, etc, but the biggest issue facing this game is that this playerbase simply does not want to fight each other. They just want to passively accrue all these resources and assets. This accountant has cracked she's just burning through her isk till new pc is built then no more dust ...i liked your accountant analogy spot on
The death of love
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.23 22:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote: pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive.....it's not worth the time anymore...good fights is not a good enough incentive for us...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
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So... the only thing you care about is ISK? :P
That's fair I guess, but you're allowed to play for fun too hey?
!--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust on both current Gen consoles--!
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 22:32:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:hold that wrote:yeah i stopped playing, PC was the only thing i was interested in. at 94 mil sp and so few modes i started to really dislike the game and found it straight up boring. hopefully PC v 2.0 will fix it. PC v 2.0 sounds interesting... Anyone mind telling me whats coming in PC v 2.0? Aside from Raiding being probably introduced (its been talked about but nothing concrete) I can't really say.
I know there was lots of talk regarding what to do about too much ringing, and how to creat incentives that make PC worthwhile and something to work towards for anyone who has interest.
I don't know that the specifics were ever openly decided upon but I have a feeling doing so has been what has kept the devs and cpm busy.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 23:36:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive.....it's not worth the time anymore...good fights is not a good enough incentive for us...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
. So... the only thing you care about is ISK? :P That's fair I guess, but you're allowed to play for fun too hey? It stopped being fun the moment only 6 players left the redline...ISK is the quickest and easiest route to add incentive..unless they'd rather the PC playerbase die off beforehand. If you've got better ideas that are quick an easy lets hear them...also to drinking a beer I prefer vodka/rum and have been dancing with merry j for the past couple of years
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thor424
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.23 23:43:00 -
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Diesel Heat seeker wrote:Thor, I run a 3 man cor with all closed beta vets. Give me a shout, you are more than welcome to join or to squad up with no strings attached. Tc dude
It's not hard for me to find a great squad, but it doesn't keep pubs from being extremely frustrating. But I'm always up for squading, hit me up
Thor's Emporium
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.23 23:53:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive.....it's not worth the time anymore...good fights is not a good enough incentive for us...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
. So... the only thing you care about is ISK? :P That's fair I guess, but you're allowed to play for fun too hey? It stopped being fun the moment only 6 players left the redline...ISK is the quickest and easiest route to add incentive..unless they'd rather the PC playerbase die off beforehand. If you've got better ideas that are quick an easy lets hear them...also to drinking a beer I prefer vodka/rum and have been dancing with merry j for the past couple of years Were you around when the ISK rewards were broken and allowed a ton of ISK to be made in 1 match.
People were actually fighting, like bringing it their all.
That was legitimately the most fun pubs have ever been.
While the rewards shouldn't be anywhere near as much as it was it definitely shows you the impact that ISK rewards have on player incentive.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2015.05.23 23:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote: pubs are extremely irritating and boring...FW has no incentive as we can't even trade the bpo's yet...PC well you killed that by getting rid of the only incentive.....it's not worth the time anymore...good fights is not a good enough incentive for us...you killed the incentive in pc...we don't fight eachother anymore cuz it's not worth the time or effort..
. So... the only thing you care about is ISK? :P That's fair I guess, but you're allowed to play for fun too hey? It stopped being fun the moment only 6 players left the redline...ISK is the quickest and easiest route to add incentive..unless they'd rather the PC playerbase die off beforehand. If you've got better ideas that are quick an easy lets hear them...also to drinking a beer I prefer vodka/rum and have been dancing with merry j for the past couple of years Were you around when the ISK rewards were broken and allowed a ton of ISK to be made in 1 match. People were actually fighting, like bringing it their all. That was legitimately the most fun pubs have ever been. While the rewards shouldn't be anywhere near as much as it was it definitely shows you the impact that ISK rewards have on player incentive. Back in the day the avg match was 1-2m payout for me
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H No Context
529
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Posted - 2015.05.24 00:27:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub He's a vet dude, seeing as he is still playing this game he has been patient enough. No really, he is one of the very first few to play this game. To have played this game for so long, get your hopes up by the devs then have them shattered then repeat this for a few more times you have to give this dude some credit for not smashing his ps3 already No. Yes.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
10
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Posted - 2015.05.24 00:35:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Golden Day wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:Golden Day wrote:PC 2.0 is Soon to come be patient scrub He's a vet dude, seeing as he is still playing this game he has been patient enough. No really, he is one of the very first few to play this game. To have played this game for so long, get your hopes up by the devs then have them shattered then repeat this for a few more times you have to give this dude some credit for not smashing his ps3 already No. Yes. Absolutely 100%
Dealing with the old DEVs was probably the most frustrating thing any gamer could possibly deal with mechanic wise.
....i still wont forgive Ubisoft for destroying the AssasinsCreed Series.
Back then, history, scifi, stealth and deep story.
Now, graphics, fighting, LOOK AT THOSE KILL MOVES, and a whole lotta nothing but European history and even that has taken a backseat.
Wait... I'm rambling again.
Sgt Kirk's Gallente Propaganda Youtube Channel
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Alaika Arbosa
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.05.24 00:59:00 -
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No LAN party == No Competitive Gameplay in Dust514
Asserting that there is any competitive arena in Dust or that there has ever been (outside of the fanfest lans) strips all credibility.
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When you lose small mind you free your life....
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