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thor424 wrote:

Ripley Riley wrote:

Regis Blackbird wrote:

CCP have already been burnt too many times with these statements, so I doubt they will do it again.
You might read all the text, but the majority will skip words like "preliminary", "subject to change" etc and take it as a full blown promise (with hope to die...)

What is the worst case scenario for some forumites misreading their statements? The player population dips? That ship has sailed.

CCP should be letting us know, at least in general terms, what will happen to Dust 514. They are refusing to do so and players are attempting to make excuses for them. Humans are weird creatures.

I don't know how people continue with the "they don't want to commit without being able to deliver" mantra.

It's becoming harder and harder to have quality matches as the playerbase drops. I'll be here until the end, but the writing is on the wall if they continue to stay silent. I think they'll have to announce something by the end of summer.


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One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.04 15:51:00 - [1] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: 2nd edition PS4 The PS4 slim? Already? That didn't take long. Its not a slim, just an increased HDD. http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/02/two-new-ps4-models-leak-one-with-1tb-hard-drive "It doesn't appear that either of the new models will mark a full redesign of the console, like we saw with the PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim, but rather this is about the internal components changing." Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.04 16:42:00 - [2] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Around this time every month I pull up Eve Offline: Dust to review the 3 and 6 month averages for Dust. Some data points I am noticing... During the 2014 Christmas holidays our we dipped to 1,526. Seen here. Which is fine, people are spending time with their family and friends, opening presents, traveling, etc. See that other 1,500-ish dip? That was a week ago. Six month average: 2,173 Three month: 2,071 One month: 1,929 Week: 1,900 Notice a pattern? Warlords 1.0 and 1.1 were great and we all appreciate the work done. The power core idea could improve performance and the PC revamp scheduled for 1.2 is great... but it will not fix what I believe to be the primary issue here: Playstation 3. We are hemorrhaging players, CCP, and you are as quiet as a crypt about it. Why? If you run for CPM, you'll get in and find out. Then you can stare at the forums in frustration because you know, and can't say anything due to the NDA. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.20 01:14:00 - [3] - Quote Did you not read Frame's earlier post today? They have been busy working on the next update and hotfix. These are going to be huge, and given their limited resources, I would rather them spend it getting things done than holding our hand. They haven't been completely silent, just less communicative than previously because of major work being done. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.20 04:11:00 - [4] - Quote thor424 wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: CCP have already been burnt too many times with these statements, so I doubt they will do it again. You might read all the text, but the majority will skip words like "preliminary", "subject to change" etc and take it as a full blown promise (with hope to die...) What is the worst case scenario for some forumites misreading their statements? The player population dips? That ship has sailed. CCP should be letting us know, at least in general terms, what will happen to Dust 514. They are refusing to do so and players are attempting to make excuses for them. Humans are weird creatures. I don't know how people continue with the "they don't want to commit without being able to deliver" mantra. It's becoming harder and harder to have quality matches as the playerbase drops. I'll be here until the end, but the writing is on the wall if they continue to stay silent. I think they'll have to announce something by the end of summer. They can't keep people here with promises anymore. Even if we know they will pull through. If I know I am going to be frustrated, I won't play. Doesn't matter if I know a week from now things will change. CCP wasting time chatting us up won't bring the changes faster. In fact time spent explaining everything clearly and without inflaming ire would take time. When time is of the essence, and given the numbers drop it is, its more important to buckle down and get it done as soon as possible. Only when the game is fun again will peope play longer and more often, and end their breaks. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.20 06:19:00 - [5] - Quote thor424 wrote: Yet as player numbers drop, revenue drops. Everything we are led to believe is that Dust is getting the work it's getting because it's making money. I agree that time is of the essence. The longer the silence the more people lose faith and believe the silence is to wring the last drop from the playerbase before the inevitable. But they have already stated otherwise. Several times. Including a comment from Frame today. They are working on PC 2.0, Power Cores, and HP/Speed curve. Just the first two are heavy lifting and will be massive changes. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.20 15:34:00 - [6] - Quote thor424 wrote: K, you keep trying to convince me. I think you just made 27 people stick around. SMH It's the long term uncertainty and the silence. It's the frustration of dealing with a game that's pushing this hardware to its limits. And what good would it be to port a broken, unbalanced, and frustrating game to a new system? Not all the games problems are due to hardware constraints. PC had exploits that ruined the economy. While weapons and suits are better balanced, there is still quite a ways to go. Porting this game to another system too soon will only ensure its failure the next iteration, and thus for the long term. They have to get the fundamentals right before doing anything else. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.21 03:54:00 - [7] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: A PlayStation three broken game that needs 1 gb of ram to properly run on another platform ? Oh if only there were a console with 8 gb of ram to properly run a dust 514 port You can't throw RAM at Planetary Conquest and suddenly its fun again. You can't throw RAM at imbalanced HP and Speed, and suddenly balance all suits. If you think that the constraints of the PS3 are the ONLY issues Dust has, and that a port is the magic bullet, you don't fundamentally understand Dust's problems. thor424 wrote: How the heck would you know what's balanced and what isn't when 90% of pubs are borefests? You just aren't digesting the core issue, people are leaving the game in droves. The game isn't a borefest because its on the PS3, there are a great many games on the PS3 that are still loads of fun (currently playing the Mass Effect series for example). PS2 is on the PS4, and looks pretty, but is boring as hell despite all its polish. It is not fundamentally fun. Whether its on the PS4 or PC. It has all the RAM, GPU stats, and SSD space it can get on the PC, but people left the game because it sucked. Just as pepople will if CCP ported a boring, broken game to the PC or PS4. Ripley Riley wrote: We could sit here with our thumb up our butts saying "Dust isn't ready yet! It needs more X, it needs more Y! We must balance Z first!" for years. Every month that goes by we lose more players to boredom and next gen platforms. It won't be long before our PEAK numbers will be sub-1,000. When player numbers start dipping that low the profitability of Dust plummets. What do you think will happen to Dust when it isn't generating a profit? What it is that you want? For CCP to be struck with analysis paralysis until they shutdown Dust without porting? I want them to get the foundation of the game well enough that it can be built upon. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it has to be strong enough, and malleable enough, that it the fundamental ideas behind the game can be coded into a new engine, and it won't be a waste of resources. Its a tight rope walk man. You port too soon, you get a boring, broken, exploitable game on a new system. It creates a bad impression, and people leave before CCP can react. At that point they have made a huge investment of time and money into the game, and won't get enough of a return to justify the cost. They have one chance to get it right. And to bring it back to center, I would rather CCP spend their time getting their game right than holding our hands through the process on a day by day basis when they could just be getting it done. There is a time for input, and there is a time to act. Its what they are doing. They have told us as much. That should be good enough for the time being. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.08.08 00:47:00 - [8] - Quote Bump. Take a look at the numbers now. Weekly average is higher than the Monthly. Monthly average is higher than the Three Month. While the trend ends there, this is more than a simple post update bump. If you look at the last 2 or 3 months, you will see that numbers have begun to grow again. Perhaps this is simply a bump in kids getting off school and playing more during the summer, but at the very least it is an encouraging sign. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.