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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.22 02:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Isn't your character old enough to remember when that was the case, and it didn't work? I believe this was primary because armour hardeners were bugged. However back when this was the primary mode of Armour repairs HAV were not considered incredibly OP due to their being windows of opportunity to strike at them when repairs were down.
Armor Tanking was really an exercise in micro management back in the day. Typically 3 hardeners, 1-2 active reps, damage control, heat sinks, ect. Armor tanking was an art form back then, now with passive reps it's just derpy.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.22 03:10:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:True Adamance wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:True Adamance wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Isn't your character old enough to remember when that was the case, and it didn't work? I believe this was primary because armour repairers were bugged. However back when this was the primary mode of Armour repairs HAV were not considered incredibly OP due to their being windows of opportunity to strike at them when repairs were down. Agreed, there was no problem in reps being active themselves. It was the initial -60% damage reduction initially... =P which was not a bug. They pulsed every second or something like that with full effect or am I wrong in thinking? correct, they gave 300-400 armor every second whereas shield boosters gave 250-340 every 3 secs.
You have that backwards, armor repped for a large amount at the end of a 3 second cycle, shields repped for a smaller amount and the start of a 1 second cycle. So they each have 5 pulses of HP, but armor did it over 15 seconds and shields did it over 5. This is similar to how it works in EVE as well.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:34:00 -
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Wait I'm confused, are you guys saying that armor hardeners were 60% back when we had active armor repairers? I'm fairly certain that was never the case. We had 25% hardeners and a passive 10% resist from skills (shield was 30% and 10%), and it was like that for....a very long time. The higher percentage hardeners didn't come around until the same time the passive armor repairers did.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.22 07:51:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
You have that backwards, armor repped for a large amount at the end of a 3 second cycle, shields repped for a smaller amount and the start of a 1 second cycle. So they each have 5 pulses of HP, but armor did it over 15 seconds and shields did it over 5. This is similar to how it works in EVE as well.
Actually, you have it wrong. Back before all this arcade tank style stuff in 1.7, I was a full time tanker. I am 36912305741232% sure that armor repped straight 300-400 hp per sec for 15 secs while shields repped 250-350 every 3 secs for 15 secs. This was one of the major reasons Madrugars dominated Gunnlogi's back in the days after uprising.
Hmmm I'm just going off of what I remember, as well as this spreadsheet which was assembled from pre-1.7 sources.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZSZ8qiukISEjPnmqdR1L-fxrVZRA2PzIwValJQ6JYLQ/edit?usp=sharing
Also a couple of additional resources
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Armor_Repairers_(Vehicles)
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Shield_Boosters
That also state that the pulse interval for armor was 3 seconds and shield 1, but both had 5 pulses each. Note that they were last updated before 1.7.
I mean I could be wrong, just all the evidence I can find points to the conclusion I've made.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:I have enough restrictions on flying my incubus already, i dont need to cycle armor reps each time i take the slightest bit of damage.
No thank you.
That's how it used to be and people managed to fly just fine?
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