DUST Search - Scrambler rifle charge nerf

True Adamance wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

But the charged shot isn't the problem.
It is the ability to put several high damage shots within very few pixels near instantaneously.

The charge itself is pretty okay, according to empirical study, it's better damage-wise to use tap shots. Charge is good for very weak suits which can be instagibbed tho, but if there's a risk that bogey would survive that 1+3 then it's not.

Charge shot on its own is not really an issue, but when its quickly followed up by a sprinkle of regular shots, that adds up to a lot of damage in very little time. Without the charge shot, the SCR's ability to do a lot of damage very quickly isn't that different from the Tac AR's.

You made a very solid suggestion the other day which was to have brief over heat animation (not the full 6 seconds) but something akin to the Ion Pistol where your mercenary shakes the rifle to disperse built up heat for a second or two.

This allows the charged shot itself to remain in tact as a viable choice but not be followed up immediately by high DPS volleys. That way an affected player has time to react.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.21 20:28:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone is complaining about scrambler rifles, and a nerf is likely coming anyway, so I have a proposal on the subject that I think is both fair and effective. The scrambler rifle's regular fire has lower DPS than the tactical AR and has only like 5 meters of more range, but when you combine a charge shot's high alpha damage with a quick succession of regular shots, you can take down an enemy extremely fast (arguably too quickly). If the charge shot is the source of the problem, then reducing the damage of the charge shot makes sense as a solution. Last I heard, the charge function multiplies the damage of the scrambler rifle by 3.5. A Viziam scrambler rifle has 71.5 base damage, and that means a fully charged shot will do 250.25 damage, which can then be followed up with a handful of regular shots before overheating. Obviously, that will add up to a lot of damage. If the charge multiplier was 2.5 instead, then the charge shot would do 178.75 damage -- significantly less damage than before, and will mean a scrambler rifle won't kill as quickly, but still enough to be useful. Additionally, having the charge shot use up more ammo than a regular shot wold also help in lessening the brutal efficiency of the weapon. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.21 22:33:00 - [2] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: But the charged shot isn't the problem. It is the ability to put several high damage shots within very few pixels near instantaneously. The charge itself is pretty okay, according to empirical study, it's better damage-wise to use tap shots. Charge is good for very weak suits which can be instagibbed tho, but if there's a risk that bogey would survive that 1+3 then it's not. Charge shot on its own is not really an issue, but when its quickly followed up by a sprinkle of regular shots, that adds up to a lot of damage in very little time. Without the charge shot, the SCR's ability to do a lot of damage very quickly isn't that different from the Tac AR's. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.22 01:59:00 - [3] - Quote True Adamance wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: But the charged shot isn't the problem. It is the ability to put several high damage shots within very few pixels near instantaneously. The charge itself is pretty okay, according to empirical study, it's better damage-wise to use tap shots. Charge is good for very weak suits which can be instagibbed tho, but if there's a risk that bogey would survive that 1+3 then it's not. Charge shot on its own is not really an issue, but when its quickly followed up by a sprinkle of regular shots, that adds up to a lot of damage in very little time. Without the charge shot, the SCR's ability to do a lot of damage very quickly isn't that different from the Tac AR's. You made a very solid suggestion the other day which was to have brief over heat animation (not the full 6 seconds) but something akin to the Ion Pistol where your mercenary shakes the rifle to disperse built up heat for a second or two. This allows the charged shot itself to remain in tact as a viable choice but not be followed up immediately by high DPS volleys. That way an affected player has time to react. I don't think I suggested that, was probably someone else in the group chat, but I will gladly take credit for it because I like it. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.26 21:38:00 - [4] - Quote More suggestions welcomed Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.05.27 02:27:00 - [5] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Hi, Kagehoshi Note that He Who Makes Changes has a different take on a proper fix. Search CCP Rattati's latest posts. Already read it, and I think it's the wrong direction. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12	Posted - 2015.07.08 19:10:00 - [6] - Quote Pew pew Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+