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Meisterjager Jagermeister 1	Posted - 2015.05.21 18:14:00 - [1] - Quote How many people think MATCH BUILDING is the single most important issue requiring correction in this game? What good are all the rest of the fixes and updates if you can't keep a full match of 32 players? AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 515	Posted - 2015.05.21 18:17:00 - [2] - Quote IF we had enough players then match making would have been fine but we're as abundant as specks of sugar in a salt shaker Click me
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 136	Posted - 2015.05.21 18:22:00 - [3] - Quote Si CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 10	Posted - 2015.05.21 18:24:00 - [4] - Quote Georgia is on to something. I think the matchmaking is actually in a good place. Player populations are in tiers. We think of them as newberry and veteran but there are many more layers than that. Dust 514 is on this dinosaur of a console which creates huge gaps in our tiers. Matchmaking attempts to fill matches so it puts players in tiers they don't belong in. This is where all the "I'm in empty matches!" complaints from vets come from as well as the "I'm getting stomped all the time!" from the newberrys. TL;DR - GET DUST 514 OFF OF THE PS3 NOW @Ripley_Riley "Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6	Posted - 2015.05.21 19:24:00 - [5] - Quote While I agree it's the most important issue, I think it's pretty good to note that it's still hardly an issue. Dust is in pretty good shape. Some details can be ignored
Magnus Belmont Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2015.05.21 19:26:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah... This morning I managed to win 2 out of 13 battles... Lol @ match making.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.05.21 23:32:00 - [7] - Quote We need to be careful here. Agreed that matchbuilding is vitally important, however, imo the matchmaker is doing it's job well, even with our small population. That's quite impressive and speaks well for Rattati's technical skills. Don't blame the match maker. What's hurting us is a lack of supporting mechanics for how matches are played out. Plain and simple we need real contracts for pubs, written as they would be written in New Eden. Such a system would take care of quitting and being dropped into far-gone matches. If it were up to me we'd design a full contract system right now that was engineered to work with EVE's contract system, should that day ever come. Start with the database and rulset from EVE, flesh it out using solid, forward-looking design to add what we need here in DUST, then turn off the EVE functionality and make it part of the PS3 client. Initially we'd use it for pub contracts but it would be there ready and waiting for when we start issuing contracts to each other for PvP or PvE. Lastly we also need to take a second look at the details of how and when ISK/WP are rewarded - there are some irrationalities in our current ruleset that are working against the game. PSN: RationalSpark
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.05.21 23:44:00 - [8] - Quote Matchmaking is the reason I didn't play for about a month and the reason I have not enjoyed the 20 or so matches I've played in the last 3 days or so since I came back to check it out.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 743	Posted - 2015.05.22 01:40:00 - [9] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: How many people think MATCH BUILDING is the single most important issue requiring correction in this game? What good are all the rest of the fixes and updates if you can't keep a full match of 32 players? Yep The CPM candidate we need, not the one we want. The candidate for the rest of us.
Squagga Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 621	Posted - 2015.05.22 02:24:00 - [10] - Quote I agree, matchmaking is pretty important. I think the real issue here, is our lack of a community. Maybe if CCP did some work to get us new players, we wouldn't have this issue. On the other hand, if they kept the players that they do have happy, we wouldn't lose players. Kind of a chicken n the egg situation Shields, the silent killer.

Meisterjager Jagermeister 1	Posted - 2015.05.22 05:25:00 - [11] - Quote Good points guys. So how do we grow the player base on a console with a shrinking user base? AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H No Context 517	Posted - 2015.05.22 05:34:00 - [12] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Good points guys. So how do we grow the player base on a console with a shrinking user base? You don't,we port over to another platform where the increased developing opportunities will attract more people. I suppose you can call that wishful thinking but I call it being hopeful. Click me
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.05.22 07:46:00 - [13] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Good points guys. So how do we grow the player base on a console with a shrinking user base? Make it fun. Have a solid end-game.
Damodred Matari Heavy Support INC 182	Posted - 2015.05.22 09:13:00 - [14] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Good points guys. So how do we grow the player base on a console with a shrinking user base? The ps3 is done. Being a hipster is only viable on PC. Shut fi yuh mout before mi bax yuh Thank you for playing the wheel of fortune.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 782	Posted - 2015.05.22 12:02:00 - [15] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: How many people think MATCH BUILDING is the single most important issue requiring correction in this game? What good are all the rest of the fixes and updates if you can't keep a full match of 32 players? Sortof.?.?.? It's lack of players rather than a team building glitch, terrible player retention and utter shitetasticness (it's a word, look it up) of NPE are the problem not MM or team building. Can't build a team if there's no one to fill it. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.05.22 12:41:00 - [16] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Good points guys. So how do we grow the player base on a console with a shrinking user base? You don't,we port over to another platform where the increased developing opportunities will attract more people. I suppose you can call that wishful thinking but I call it being hopeful. When noobs get confused and then serialstomped on PS4 they'll quit there too. PS3 still has a huge active playerbase. Our core problem is we're not retaining players. PSN: RationalSpark
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 820	Posted - 2015.05.22 12:54:00 - [17] - Quote From the beginning the best thing Dust 514 had to offer was a connection to Eve and the notion of merging players into a bigger battle. We have some videos of mercs defending space stations during a space battle, but it is apparently too hard to code. Bring back the hope of an exciting future and the queues will fill up.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.05.22 16:19:00 - [18] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: shitetasticness (it's a word, look it up) No it's not. Thanks for coming.
Meisterjager Jagermeister 1	Posted - 2015.05.22 16:54:00 - [19] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: shitetasticness (it's a word, look it up) No it's not. Thanks for coming. You actually googled it, didn't you. Yeah you did. AKA - StarVenger- Horizons' Edge
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2015.05.22 17:20:00 - [20] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: shitetasticness (it's a word, look it up) No it's not. Thanks for coming. You actually googled it, didn't you. Yeah you did. Yup. Sure did. :-p Double-click, right-click, Search google for 'shitetasticness'

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 788	Posted - 2015.05.22 17:25:00 - [21] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: shitetasticness (it's a word, look it up) No it's not. Thanks for coming. You actually googled it, didn't you. Yeah you did. Yup. Sure did. :-p Double-click, right-click, Search google for 'shitetasticness' my work here is done Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.05.22 18:10:00 - [22] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: How many people think MATCH BUILDING is the single most important issue requiring correction in this game? What good are all the rest of the fixes and updates if you can't keep a full match of 32 players? What good is match-making if the rest of the game is balls? You gotta do something first... Compare the fact you can "sometimes" get a good battle and "occasionally" get into a match within a few minutes, to the fact that you can "never" avoid half the bugs in the game.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1	Posted - 2015.05.22 18:24:00 - [23] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: How many people think MATCH BUILDING is the single most important issue requiring correction in this game? What good are all the rest of the fixes and updates if you can't keep a full match of 32 players? I actually would prefer hit detection, strafe penalties, terrain glitches and other various smoothing bugs addressed first. I don't care if its 8v10 so long as the shots land and I don't be running on mushrooms the whole dang game. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RUST415 3	Posted - 2015.05.22 18:25:00 - [24] - Quote Match building is a symptom, not a problem. The real problem, IMO, is lack of players. Said a bit differently, it's easy to build matches when you've got 10,000 players, and quite a bit harder with 1,000.


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