What you expect me to not like the idea of pirate suits?

XD

*raises hand

Guristas is Caldari and Amarr

Honestly we are lacking stuff that gets the attention of high SP players (vets). Pirate faction suits should be implemented into the game by a simple trick that Ratatti could pull out of his hat. The new suits could just be suits with pre fitted skins and role bonuses attached to them. So lets take the Guristas as a example here:

Guristas Assault dropsuit:
-Requirements to wear it are Caldari Assault V and Galente Assault V.
-Appearal is the Caldari Assault with the guristas skin prefitted on it.
-Role bonus: +10% damage for Rail Rifles, Assault rifles and 10% reduction of swarm launcher lock on time.
-25% fitting costs for Light weapons, sidearms and grenades
-ISk cost is +50% of that from regular assault suits
-has a additional high slot (6 in total).

Role bonuses are bonuses that are independant from skills and are attached to the suit itself. Since there is no seperate skillbook required (like in eve you just cross train both races) and the existing skillbooks are only giving bonuses on specific suits the pirate suit comes with bonuses on the suit itself.

This concept was used back in the closed beta for the allmighty Sagaris and Surya tank who came with a +50% damage bonus on the hull itself which was independant from vehicles. It would spice up the game a bit and vets have a reason to cross train dropsuits. Sounds easy enough to implement so why not?

You cannot have one item require 2 skills. This includes platforms (suits/vehicles), modules, weapons, and skill books.

You cannot have one item require 2 skills. This includes platforms (suits/vehicles), modules, weapons, and skill books.

You cannot have one item require 2 skills. This includes platforms (suits/vehicles), modules, weapons, and skill books.

Epic fail on massive proportions right there folks. So lets elaborate on this by proving him that CPM obviously doesnt play the game or is just ignorant. Im just gonna take my regular stock standard assault rifle and guess how many skills it takes to wield it? Can you count IWS? Can you? Probs not so i shall count for you:

ASSAULT RIFLE PREQUESITS:

-WEAPONARY III
-LIGHT WEAPONS I
-ASSAULT RIFLE OPERATION I

I just blowed your point by describing the most basic weapon which allmost every merc has specced into. If you cant count it requires 3 skills to use it. If you want to use the prototype variant you need 4 cause of the proficency. But im not done yet guess how many Skills it needs to use a standard caldari assault suit? Most certainly more then 2, in fact it aswell requires 3 skills which are:

-Dropsuit operation I
-Medium Caldari Dropsuits III
-Caldari Assault Dropsuits I

Seriously IWS youve outdone yourself, so how did you got into the position of the CPM again? Cause game knowledge is appearently not the reason.

Epic fail on massive proportions right there folks. So lets elaborate on this by proving him that CPM obviously doesnt play the game or is just ignorant. Im just gonna take my regular stock standard assault rifle and guess how many skills it takes to wield it? Can you count IWS? Can you? Probs not so i shall count for you:

ASSAULT RIFLE PREQUESITS:

-WEAPONARY III
-LIGHT WEAPONS I
-ASSAULT RIFLE OPERATION I

I just blowed your point by describing the most basic weapon which allmost every merc has specced into. If you cant count it requires 3 skills to use it. If you want to use the prototype variant you need 4 cause of the proficency. But im not done yet guess how many Skills it needs to use a standard caldari assault suit? Most certainly more then 2, in fact it aswell requires 3 skills which are:

-Dropsuit operation I
-Medium Caldari Dropsuits III
-Caldari Assault Dropsuits I

Seriously IWS youve outdone yourself, so how did you got into the position of the CPM again? Cause game knowledge is appearently not the reason.

Epic fail on massive proportions right there folks. So lets elaborate on this by proving him that CPM obviously doesnt play the game or is just ignorant. Im just gonna take my regular stock standard assault rifle and guess how many skills it takes to wield it? Can you count IWS? Can you? Probs not so i shall count for you:

ASSAULT RIFLE PREQUESITS:

-WEAPONARY III
-LIGHT WEAPONS I
-ASSAULT RIFLE OPERATION I

I just blowed your point by describing the most basic weapon which allmost every merc has specced into. If you cant count it requires 3 skills to use it. If you want to use the prototype variant you need 4 cause of the proficency. But im not done yet guess how many Skills it needs to use a standard caldari assault suit? Most certainly more then 2, in fact it aswell requires 3 skills which are:

-Dropsuit operation I
-Medium Caldari Dropsuits III
-Caldari Assault Dropsuits I

Seriously IWS youve outdone yourself, so how did you got into the position of the CPM again? Cause game knowledge is appearently not the reason.

In every instance, it is a top down unlock. Get 1 instance, to unlock the ability to get the next instance. There is not a single thing in Dust that requires 2 or more things DIRECTLY at the same time. It's a top down.

That might be the case but in dusts history Logi LAV's and Marauders had aswell secondary requirements like engineering, shield upgrades etc. It is not the case that this hasnt existed before. Before we had the graphic skilltree we had just a list of things where the linear progression wasnt obvious. You can even see the old skill system by going on your character sheet and select "skills". Not skills directly from the neocom you have to select it where your FW standings, lifetime stats etc. is listed.

I'd rather wait until we're on a new platform before we start adding stuff like pirate dropsuits. The pirate stuff is often bonuses for EVE-style ewar (webs, neuts, etc) that doesn't exist yet. Let's wait untill we have more stuff in the game so we can do them properly instead of rushing it out just to add something new, simply for the sake of adding something new. We can give them proper unique suit models that look amazing, instead of just reskinning what we have.

If we're going to add any new suits, it should be pilot suits first.

Thinking lateral post-level-5 upgrades would make more sense, but if we're going to go crazy, why not go crazy on an underutilized/underpowered frame (as opposed to the opposite)? Something to shake up the status quo. Perhaps, roll out an OP Commando instead?

Epic fail on massive proportions right there folks. So lets elaborate on this by proving him that CPM obviously doesnt play the game or is just ignorant. Im just gonna take my regular stock standard assault rifle and guess how many skills it takes to wield it? Can you count IWS? Can you? Probs not so i shall count for you:

...

Seriously IWS youve outdone yourself, so how did you got into the position of the CPM again? Cause game knowledge is appearently not the reason.