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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.17 05:16:00 -
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Had a 13 vs 2 a few lil' bit ago, if the other team fled it was in the first 30 seconds. You know what that means, fighting your own team for WP for 15 minutes, the height of fun in a FPS. Que Rat saying everything is working properly.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.17 10:58:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:You blame the matchmaker, but show an "end of match" screen? Do you have a picture @ start of match? (You know, the point where the matchmaker was finished, and player behaviour becomes the dominant factor.)
Now if matches were reinforced after the first wave of people leaving within 30 seconds this wouldn't be a problem now would it? CCP's **** is still broken, there is no two ways about it.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.17 12:54:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Regis Blackbird wrote:You blame the matchmaker, but show an "end of match" screen? Do you have a picture @ start of match? (You know, the point where the matchmaker was finished, and player behaviour becomes the dominant factor.) Now if matches were reinforced after the first wave of people leaving within 30 seconds this wouldn't be a problem now would it? CCP's **** is still broken, there is no two ways about it. But that argument assumes there are available players at the exact time which have the exact appropriate Mu and/or squad sizes to the people that left. For higher Tier players I say it's very improbable (but not impossible), which is most likely why these matches stay uneven. Should it just throw in random people like it did before, so noobs can be slaughtered by multi million vets? That worked out really well, didn't it? The entire point of the matchmaking is to face similar skilled opponents, but when people leave they throw the entire logic out the window. The funny thing is the remaining players will then blame the matchmaker for something it has no control over  Now, I don't say the matchmaking is perfect, and I am sure they will continue refining / tweaking it. But from my perspective, the reason we see these loopsided matches is not due to the matchmaker logic, but with player behaviour.
I don't care about the cause, the system is not working. Given CCP's past history my money is on that they inverted the the percentage complete requirement to refill matches. I know it has no problems throwing me into matches that are seconds away from over, yet never into one that had just started. I don't buy that they are tweaking it either, as nothing has gotten better, matches aren't reinforced and CCP just says everything is working fine. Far as they are concerned if a match starts full there is no problem to fix. They suck at their jobs.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1309
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Posted - 2015.05.17 14:02:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:
I don't care about the cause, the system is not working. Given CCP's past history my money is on that they inverted the the percentage complete requirement to refill matches. I know it has no problems throwing me into matches that are seconds away from over, yet never into one that had just started. I don't buy that they are tweaking it either, as nothing has gotten better, matches aren't reinforced and CCP just says everything is working fine. Far as they are concerned if a match starts full there is no problem to fix. They suck at their jobs.
You are hardy constructive in your feedback. Saying matchmaker is **** and CCP suck at their job won't help at all, but rather guarantee they won't listen to you. If you have real examples of games which you joined the last second, provide the rough time and the character you played with, and perhaps they will find the bug you are soooo sure is there... Hell, even Delt posted a picture of the flawed game, which means CCP have at least a chance to look at it. I might not agree with his conclusion, but at least it's somewhat helpful. PS: I don't experience the problems you describe, so for me at least the Matchmaker have improved a lot. The only loopsided games I see are due to players leaving.
He doesn't listen regardless, people post pictures he looks into and says everything worked fine, whats the point of being constructive when its pointless? As long as the teambuilder initially worked there is nothing wrong. He's said time and again everything is logged, he's free to look at my match history since the matchmaker was rolled out any time he pleases. Why do we have to do their job for them?
CCP Rattati wrote:There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:
"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.
It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting.
Everything's fine...
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:20:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:Regis Blackbird wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:
I don't care about the cause, the system is not working. Given CCP's past history my money is on that they inverted the the percentage complete requirement to refill matches. I know it has no problems throwing me into matches that are seconds away from over, yet never into one that had just started. I don't buy that they are tweaking it either, as nothing has gotten better, matches aren't reinforced and CCP just says everything is working fine. Far as they are concerned if a match starts full there is no problem to fix. They suck at their jobs.
You are hardy constructive in your feedback. Saying matchmaker is **** and CCP suck at their job won't help at all, but rather guarantee they won't listen to you. If you have real examples of games which you joined the last second, provide the rough time and the character you played with, and perhaps they will find the bug you are soooo sure is there... Hell, even Delt posted a picture of the flawed game, which means CCP have at least a chance to look at it. I might not agree with his conclusion, but at least it's somewhat helpful. PS: I don't experience the problems you describe, so for me at least the Matchmaker have improved a lot. The only loopsided games I see are due to players leaving. He doesn't listen regardless, people post pictures he looks into and says everything worked fine, whats the point of being constructive when its pointless? As long as the teambuilder initially worked there is nothing wrong. He's said time and again everything is logged, he's free to look at my match history since the matchmaker was rolled out any time he pleases. Why do we have to do their job for them? CCP Rattati wrote:There is one documented and verified complaint, from a player that I can't remember who was. Basically a weird case of a 4 match unluck streak. Every other case, where I have checked, have been exaggerations like:
"I have had nothing but 5/12 matches all day", that have in fact been all 14v14+, and one battle where a 6 man squad dropped early and the player lost.
It is not worse or better to run solo before or after, and the facts are that battles overall are far more equal than before, at the cost of a little increased waiting time. If you ever go above 5 minutes waiting for pubs, you should either exit and try again, or sign up for more modes. Selecting a single mode, at low pcu times, may cause increased waiting. Everything's fine... But you won't do their job for them. You will help them do their job more efficiently (for your own benefit I might add). The quote you posted proves CCP looks into these complaints, not the opposite. If they look up the entire match history for all the players who rant on the forums we wouldn't see any hotfixes or updates at all. That's a 100% job for the entire team.
Frankly, not constantly chasing 2 guys around a map for 15 minutes should take precedence over updates. Skins in no way make that a more enjoyable experience. It's not like I am the only one with the problem, its widespread and makes playing the exact opposite of fun, which is why people play games after all.
Acquisition is terrible, matchmaking is terrible, your game is still riddled with bugs, you should feel bad.
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