Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.05.16 07:38:00 -
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One way you can look at it is by looking at how Eve Online has done tieracide.
Let's look at the mining ships in Eve such as the Mining Barges. These ships use to come in tiers with the Procurer being the smallest miner with limited capacity and defenses and only one strip mining laser. The Retriever comes in as the second step with more capacity, an extra strip mining laser, and some more defenses. The Covetor comes in as the final step (highest tier of its class) with one more strip mining laser bringing the total to 3, strongest defense, best cargo capacity, and best mining yield overall.
But then came tieracide and the results are as follows. Their slots arrangements have been modified accordingly.
Procurer
Best overall defenses making it the strongest ship of its class.
5% bonus to shield hit points per level.
2% reduction to strip miner duration per level.
150% bonus to strip miner yield.
Gives 50% buff to drone damage and hitpoints.
Very limited in capacity but has great maneuverability.
Low Slots <---------armor and mining laser upgrade mods go here
2
Med Slots <---------shield mods go here.
4
High Slots<---------where the strip miner is fitted
1
Retriever
Best ICE miner of its class.
Best overall cargo space of its class.
Some defenses.
5% capacity to ORE hold per level.
2% reduced strip miner duration per level.
25% bonus to strip miner yield.
20% reduction in ice harvester duration and activation cost.
Low Slots
3
Med Slots
1
High Slots
2
Covetor
5% bonus to strip miner range per level.
4% reduction in strip miner duration per level.
Low Slots
2
Med Slots
1
High Slots
3
It's a summary of the ships, but you get the idea. You can look more into that at https://null-sec.com/hangar/
Basically all ships are no longer stepping stones to the next. Each ship has their own use. In the case of the Mining Barges, the Procurer will be the tanked miner, the Retriever will be the roomy miner, and the Covetor will be the efficient miner. The Covetor is the one that requires a dedicated hauler because of its small cargo space.
On top of that, training up one level of the skill book "Mining Barge" unlocks all three of these ships instead of having to train up level 3 and 5 for the Retriever and Covetor respectively. The skill books now only provide bonuses for those ships.
To put this into better context, imagine unlocking the Minmatar Scout M1, M/1-Series, and the Mk.0 with just level 1 of the Minmatar Scout skill book. The skill book now only provides bonuses to the suits but the suits have been individual re-purposed. Maybe one getting the speed buff, one getting the damage buff, and one getting the hack buff.
Sorry for dragging this on before getting towards APEX suits. For those, I can go with something like turning them into SKIN modules but with a twist. If you fit the APEX SKIN module onto a suit, that suit gains a special frame/class/race specific bonus (whatever that might be). Since APEX can be acquired via LP as well, this probably would catch the attention of the FW runners like me. This could also give FRAME suits like the Minmatar Medium Frame or Minmatar Light Frame some purpose by fitting these APEX SKINs on them because of the bonus they carry.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2015.05.16 14:21:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I think we're putting the cart before the horse here.
Let's let rattati finish his theorycrafting and find out what he comes up with before we make assumptions.
I don't like making assumptions either, but I feel we should at least help them with some ideas along the way. However, if CCP Rattati is able to come up with a better idea on his own, that would be great.
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