DUST Search - Eliminating Redundant Assets: Power Core Slot

Kain Spero wrote:

Regis Blackbird wrote:

While turning all suites to BPOs and only buying powercores might sound like a good idea, I too would prefer if the suites cost something. The difference is negligible, but importaint to some people.

I like to have the following:
- A "standard" suite bought on the market for ISK comes pre equipped with a "Militia Power Core" and "Militia SKIN".
- ADV and PRO Power Cores are available on the market for ISK (and AUR) with skill requirements.

Now, to avoid having to restock BOTH suites and Power Cores, this idea could be combined with a change in loadout management which could potentially give us a further perfomance boost...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2778915#post2778915

With this concept the suits are essentially empty shells with no functionality until the cores are plugged in, so why not have the suits as a once purchase bpo?

Not sure I understand the why behind the counter argument.

Also, I think the problem folks had with CCP Z's proposal was more the rigidity he put onto the skill tree not the bpo concept.


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Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 874	Posted - 2015.05.15 14:23:00 - [1] - Quote Brilliant idea! +1
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 876	Posted - 2015.05.17 07:42:00 - [2] - Quote While turning all suites to BPOs and only buying powercores might sound like a good idea, I too would prefer if the suites cost something. The difference is negligible, but importaint to some people. I like to have the following: - A "standard" suite bought on the market for ISK comes pre equipped with a "Militia Power Core" and "Militia SKIN". - ADV and PRO Power Cores are available on the market for ISK (and AUR) with skill requirements. Now, to avoid having to restock BOTH suites and Power Cores, this idea could be combined with a change in loadout management which could potentially give us a further perfomance boost... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2778915#post2778915
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 878	Posted - 2015.05.17 10:23:00 - [3] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: While turning all suites to BPOs and only buying powercores might sound like a good idea, I too would prefer if the suites cost something. The difference is negligible, but importaint to some people. I like to have the following: - A "standard" suite bought on the market for ISK comes pre equipped with a "Militia Power Core" and "Militia SKIN". - ADV and PRO Power Cores are available on the market for ISK (and AUR) with skill requirements. Now, to avoid having to restock BOTH suites and Power Cores, this idea could be combined with a change in loadout management which could potentially give us a further perfomance boost... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2778915#post2778915 With this concept the suits are essentially empty shells with no functionality until the cores are plugged in, so why not have the suits as a once purchase bpo? Not sure I understand the why behind the counter argument. Also, I think the problem folks had with CCP Z's proposal was more the rigidity he put onto the skill tree not the bpo concept. I'm going to be boring and say "New Eden" I have always disliked the concept of magical unlimited equipment and the fact we somehow warp out entire inventory across the universe instantly. I learned to accept it, but still not liking it... The only benefit I see to make the suites BPO (Dust style) would be to remove the hassle to restock both suite AND power core to produce the a minimal functional entity (as stated earlier). That is why I brought up the concept of Loadout Inventory, which would basically accomplish the same thing (regarding restocking) and could potentially bring further performace gains since we won't bring our entire inventory with us to battle.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 890	Posted - 2015.05.18 14:19:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Fair enough. But then how do you explain current BPOs and how all our inventory travels with us so rapidly across the cluster? I like to imagine when we deploy to battle we transfer our consciences to a clone already at the destination planet, and rather than buying physical items from the market we are buying licenses of use that get cashed in as we take the item from the stockpile at each battle site. BPOs are then an infinite license of use. May not be official canon but it's the only way that makes sense to me. Either way the end result is the same so I don't care THAT much. Game design and usability trumps Lore any day of the week in my book. If the power core module idea gets implemented as is (with no other changes apart from Tiericide) I am all for turning the suites to BPOs, as I would hate having to restock two different things to get one functional entity. The problem is you can't "unturn" them later, if and when a solution to the restock problem is found. Technically there will be no difference if the suites are BPOs or cost ISK. Both will be an item in the database and won't give any performace Impact either way. So, if the only purpose of turning all suites to BPOs is to solve the restock problem, why don't we try and find a solution to that instead? Personally I never liked the "draw directly from inventory" Loadout building and the problems it gives. It's as big resource hog as multiple suites (I say without any proof or reliable sources ). I really hate when suites which share modules goes invalid mid battle because I died in another suite. TDLR: Given today's system I am all for switching to BPOs, but I think we can gain further improvments by separating the Loadouts from our inventory. If the "restock" problem disappear, it hardly matters if the suites are BPO or not?