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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.05.15 13:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 180 unique base suits.
5 roles
4 races
3 tiers
3 variants aurum and ISK and LP
Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have
5 roles
4 races
nothing else
Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well.
This idea is crazy OP. +100
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.05.15 13:12:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Taking an idea from Avallo Kantor and expanding it.
Currently we have 120 unique base suits.
5 roles
4 races
3 tiers
3 variants aurum and ISK and LP
Compounded together is 180.
The SKIN system looks to eliminate redundant assets of BPO's, but let's take it a step further. Give all suits the slot layout of their prototype, then add a power core slot similar to the SKIN slot. The power core would add the tier appropriate CPU and PG. Suits would cost the same as standard, and then power cores will cost the equivalent difference in tier costs. There will also be aurum cores and LP cores unlocked early.
Now you have
5 roles
4 races
nothing else
Compounded is 20 unique suits
You just shaved off 160 suits from the memory cap. Even more if you do this to basic suits as well. Mind Blown. I am going to spreadsheet some stuff. HOLY CHRIST HE FINALLY GOT IT, GUYS - HIS SIGNATURE IS NO JOKE  Nah but for real dude we've been trying to illustrate this to CCP for a long time now and I'm ecstatic that we might finally get tieracide -as well as- a potential performance boost. Like, the plausibility that this could be the golden change to make Dust 514 what it was always supposed to be is making my heart race right now; I'm so excited. It's so much of a win/win it's like freaggin strawberry covered cheesecake and I'm fat so that similarity works. I'll be -SOOOO PROUD- when Dust 514 manages something like this. The powercore idea was the lynchpin, I have never seen that before. Flat progression isn't a complex idea, but it was lacking. This has some "meat" on it.
I'm kind of in awe at Aero right now. Being that awesome shouldn't be possible.
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.05.16 03:16:00 -
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Where are people getting the idea that Aero's post suggested all suits become BPOs?
I don't see that anywhere in there.
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Posted - 2015.05.16 03:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Avallo Kantor wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Where are people getting the idea that Aero's post suggested all suits become BPOs?
I don't see that anywhere in there. To be fair it was not stated in the initial idea, although it was suggested elsewhere, and I think it's a fairly strong idea. The original idea was that the suit would be a standard or militia based suit, that then had a powercore slot, with the power cores costing the difference between what a Adv / proto suit costs now, and the cost of the standard / militia frame. However if 100% of the cost was offloaded onto the power core (which isn't that much of a difference) then we could easily make the dropsuit itself a BPO. The main reason I like this is that it makes it just a bit easier to worry about restocks, since it's one less thing to worry about restocking, without reducing any of the economy / important features of buying a suit. I personally think it's a great addition to the concept of powercores. BPO suits would also solve the issue of basic aurum cores. By that I mean the sit would require no skills but not function without a core. Then the aurum standard core could require no skills to keep everything the same, and then regular ISK core that requires level 1. This would also mean current BPO's would turn into BPO SKIN mod and BPO core mod.
Eh, I guess I see where you're coming from, but I still prefer the initial idea of just adding the Core in and offloading part of the suit cost off onto it.
Replacing every suit you lose is a pretty core mechanic that most players get used to pretty quickly, and also makes more sense from an immersion standpoint which is nice because you don't often get to match the two in terms of game design.
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Posted - 2015.05.16 12:59:00 -
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I like the sound of that a LOT.
For those who aren't going to click the link, this is what's behind it:
Robert Conway wrote:I know this has been talked about before, but with the recent APEX and BPO flood into Dust, some have been uneased by the lack of "risk vs. reward" this brings. Perhaps its time to add a Manufacturing Factory to the Warbarge and turn the BPO's into legit blue prints used to build the suits and other items. Perhaps each level of upgrading could open up one more production line. And each day, each production line would spit out a certain number of items of which ever blue print it was using. Perhaps proto items would spit out 10 per day and militia items could spit out 100 per day.
Thoughts?
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.05.16 15:49:00 -
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So while I was lying in bed last night trying to get to sleep, I had a sudden idea come to me.
We have the Suit Slot at the top of the fitting screen because they removed Restock To way back, right?
Now that we have Restock To returned, that slot doesn't have much purpose, so why not use that top slot as the SKIN slot?
That means the bottom slot currently used for SKINs could be used for the Power Core, which would also mean that with the current fitting screen implementation, the PG and CPU bars would be curving up out of the Power Core slot, which helps to better reinforce the proposed new system for new players just getting into the game.
I think having that kind of visual cue would ease the transition for people who have been playing this whole time, and in quickly educating new players on the system.
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2015.10.25 13:47:00 -
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I can't help worrying that whatever they're trying to do is getting tied up in their marketing team again, like it appears the announcement of Project Legion was at FanFest 2014.
I realize gaming communities are volatile, but the complete lack of info can't entirely be out of fear of a blowup.
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