DUST Search - How Much Do Our Suites Weight

Aeon Amadi wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff.

Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance.

There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide the mass that by and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp.

Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made.

On a second thought, It might be more fair to use 50mm armor plates like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/50mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I as a point of reference which come out with a number of about .8396 kilo's to point of HP, because armor plate scaling is weird. The 50mm plate variation puts an amarr sentinel at 1100lbs.

Yay space math.

50mm steel plating 1 gives 9400 dust hp for 15000 kg, providing a ratio of 1.595kg/hp or its t2 variant is 15000 dust hp for 15000kg which is a happy 1:1 hp/kg ratio.

It's probably safe to ignore my 400mm reference because that stuff is stupidly thick, and 50mm is just a little bit thinner than conventional 60mm vehicle plating used today. So dropsuits are probably using something along the line of 25mm-30mm plating. Amarr sentinel directly references in its description using 25mm ceramic composites OR steel plating, none of the other dropsuits talk about what they use specifically.

Also, I'd like to point out that we can flip vehicles that are upside down. That's probably no easy feat.

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BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1819	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:08:00 - [1] - Quote A Super Soldier has lesser limits than a regular man, the fastest man alive can run 28mpr Our ancestors could run 20-24mpr, that was suppose the average. Average Humans run 8-9mpr while the faster humans run 10-16mpr An assault runs 6-7mpr(no kin cats) A scout with less armor can run 7-8mpr(No Kin cats) Heavies.... are standing the **** still, no wait... they can move??? So much question is how much does the armor weight or do they have to speed of an average humanoid clone of man.......\| If so, that is crap. Seriously how much does it weight. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
GeorgeN76 Senshi Slayers 34	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:20:00 - [2] - Quote The Master chief has a suit of armor that used to be slow but is fast now. Him in his suit weigh 1,000pds. End of the last paragraph in attributes. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_%28Halo%29 Scouts and Swarms
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3072	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:27:00 - [3] - Quote Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff. Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance. There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide that by the mass and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp. Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1019	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:28:00 - [4] - Quote lol it seems to depend on the day. I swear sometimes my character moves with such grace and finesse and on other days it's like my character slammed a few quarts of oil for breakfast. , it could also just be me lol Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3843	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:35:00 - [5] - Quote I want a suit with 0 armour and shields, but it sprints at 30m/s. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 24/30 exclusively Minja
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3843	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:37:00 - [6] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff. Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance. There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide the mass that by and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp. Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made. On a second thought, It might be more fair to use 50mm armor plates like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/50mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I which come out with a number of about .8396 kilo's to point of HP, because armor plate scaling is weird. The 50mm plate variation puts an amarr sentinel at 1100lbs. Yay space math. 'This has been GameTheory: thanks for waching!' Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 24/30 exclusively Minja
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3073	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:40:00 - [7] - Quote I added more to my post. Suits are probably lighter because reasons. Amarr sentinel description talks about 25mm ceramic composite or steel plating, no other dropsuit mentions what they use... so yeah, numbers. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Adelia Lafayette Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness 809	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:42:00 - [8] - Quote weight is dependent on gravity... or are you asking for mass? Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels 207	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:47:00 - [9] - Quote Don't go there, having servo motors in the armour joints would turn suits into a second skin, your not a human, your a genetic modded clone. Sitting down and actually thinking 'what would a future weapons development company do with what we have here never happened, like ever. no early warning systems in dropships or counter measures. No real combat hud compared to even todays cross comm technology ie, if i can see you doesn't mean my squad can. different rounds for tanks, co-axel HMG's, ffs even the small blaster turrets man i'd rip them off and have HMG's instead. I get theres only so much you can fit in game but i doubt realism comes with it, someone suggested we have passengers firing from dropships but Frame replied 'No one wants HMG's and forge guns hanging out of the sides, well the north vietnamese didn't want choppers packed with heavy guns ripping the fields apart but not only did it happen but they won that war. To be honest i would of said yea thats more realistic but how could we balance it? make the dropships slower and unable to tilt and pitch more like a transporter? Whatever. Anyway try to avoid what these weapons development companies would actually do with whats in Dust or you'll go insane The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
I-Shayz-I I----------I 5569	Posted - 2015.05.11 16:56:00 - [10] - Quote About a thousand times less than your mom 7162 wp with a Repair Tool!

The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels 208	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:05:00 - [11] - Quote heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what? The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 4526	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:15:00 - [12] - Quote Something I've wondered is weather these suits existed before clones were ever a though in the Amarr empires mind. If so, then normal humans would have to be able to wear them. My theory is that the sentinel and heavy suits were designed by the Amarr in the clones in mind making them super heavy(duh) The Gallente also had a black Eagle Scout suit for its special forces(seems they were used before clones, thereby making them lighter) The Caldaris assault suit seems like it could have been special order for clones(being that it's uncomfortable, I don't know if they would have wanted that on normal human soldiers who have to wear it for long periods) And the Minmatar simply used a space welder's suit and duck taped some fighting stuff to it. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3074	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:15:00 - [13] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what? Factor of 100 difference in hp. a MCC has a pretty large amount of HP for it's size IIRC it's around cruiser HP if you converted it into eve units and eve ships aren't able to descend into orbit or use their actual ammo, because the first kills the ship and the latter is concord restricted. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3074	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:17:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Something I've wondered is weather these suits existed before clones were ever a though in the Amarr empires mind. If so, then normal humans would have to be able to wear them. My theory is that the sentinel and heavy suits were designed by the Amarr in the clones in mind making them super heavy(duh) The Gallente also had a black Eagle Scout suit for its special forces(seems they were used before clones, thereby making them lighter) The Caldaris assault suit seems like it could have been special order for clones(being that it's uncomfortable, I don't know if they would have wanted that on normal human soldiers who have to wear it for long periods) And the Minmatar simply used a space welder's suit and duck taped some fighting stuff to it. The only conventional dropsuit that predates our clones existence is the amarr sentinel (and maybe the commando) and even it's undergone severe changes since our clones became a thing, it was used by the Khanid Cyber-Knights who were the 'best damn ground army in new eden'. Everything else is pretty new because they're built right into the clone. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16585	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:26:00 - [15] - Quote Usain Bolt's record is 10.4m/s. We can sprint at 7m/s (Assault) for 30~ seconds every 8~ seconds for as long as we please. We could basically sprint through an entire district. A normal human would collapse long before that. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels 208	Posted - 2015.05.11 17:28:00 - [16] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The Lion ElJonson wrote: heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what? Factor of 100 difference in hp. a MCC has a pretty large amount of HP for it's size IIRC it's around cruiser HP if you converted it into eve units and eve ships aren't able to descend into orbit or use their actual ammo, because the first kills the ship and the latter is concord restricted. EvE ships wouldn't be able take off from planets because of gravitational pull, They can fire orbital bombardment ammo The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9594	Posted - 2015.05.11 18:01:00 - [17] - Quote GeorgeN76 wrote: The Master chief has a suit of armor that used to be slow but is fast now. Him in his suit weigh 1,000pds. End of the last paragraph in attributes. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_%28Halo%29 That's a nice, even number. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3077	Posted - 2015.05.11 18:05:00 - [18] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The Lion ElJonson wrote: heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what? Factor of 100 difference in hp. a MCC has a pretty large amount of HP for it's size IIRC it's around cruiser HP if you converted it into eve units and eve ships aren't able to descend into orbit or use their actual ammo, because the first kills the ship and the latter is concord restricted. EvE ships wouldn't be able take off from planets because of gravitational pull, They can fire orbital bombardment ammo Is that not what I said? Eve ships are built in space for a reason, and ob ammo is intentionally neutered because firing anti-matter at planets is a bad idea. It kind of kills **ing everything which concord doesn't like. You're not even allowed to try and target planets in eve without an immortal clone soldier providing targeting data and making the request for fire with intentionally neutered guns. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6542	Posted - 2015.05.11 18:14:00 - [19] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I want a suit with 0 armour and shields, but it sprints at 30m/s. Armor weight doesn't actually slow you down badly, you just get tired more easily. Some details can be ignored
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1822	Posted - 2015.05.11 20:24:00 - [20] - Quote Good stuff, also thanks for the numbers Mina No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3087	Posted - 2015.05.11 20:41:00 - [21] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Good stuff, also thanks for the numbers Mina They're probably way the hell off from being accurate, but they're not a terrible estimation of just armor weight. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18931	Posted - 2015.05.11 21:16:00 - [22] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Something I've wondered is weather these suits existed before clones were ever a though in the Amarr empires mind. If so, then normal humans would have to be able to wear them. My theory is that the sentinel and heavy suits were designed by the Amarr in the clones in mind making them super heavy(duh) The Gallente also had a black Eagle Scout suit for its special forces(seems they were used before clones, thereby making them lighter) The Caldaris assault suit seems like it could have been special order for clones(being that it's uncomfortable, I don't know if they would have wanted that on normal human soldiers who have to wear it for long periods) And the Minmatar simply used a space welder's suit and duck taped some fighting stuff to it. The only conventional dropsuit that predates our clones existence is the amarr sentinel (and maybe the commando) and even it's undergone severe changes since our clones became a thing, it was used by the Khanid Cyber-Knights who were the 'best damn ground army in new eden'. Everything else is pretty new because they're built right into the clone. As we know them Dropsuits never existed prior to the inception of the clone because of the possibility of the user suffering severe harm such as irradiation, broken limbs, and other maladies due to poor safety thresholds. As Mina says I am sure some variations of combat armour that would closely resemble Dropsuits would likely have existed and perhaps more so likely in the hands of groups like the Cyber Knights or the Valklears who simply are dedicated and tough enough to handle that sort of thing. Though I take issue with the "best damn ground fighters", especially if you sourced that information from a particular website which has the heading "The fictional content of this page has not yet been verified, and is not considered to be canon." because it runs into conflicting information that suggests Kamiera's are considered the most dedicated and skilled infantrymen the Empire, according to Mordu the most powerful military, can muster. What source did you use for the Cyber Knight info? "That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die."
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3087	Posted - 2015.05.11 21:43:00 - [23] - Quote I had actually forgotten about the Kameira's. Cyber Knights were long considered the mainstay of the amarrian ground forces and were one of the better groups. Kameira's are elites that are a bit too small in number to make a massive army out of :( It's like the difference between a great platoon and a great army. That platoon may beat the snot out of all other platoons, but it cant be compared to the actual army. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18935	Posted - 2015.05.11 22:09:00 - [24] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I had actually forgotten about the Kameira's. Cyber Knights were long considered the mainstay of the amarrian ground forces and were one of the better groups. Kameira's are elites that are a bit too small in number to make a massive army out of :( It's like the difference between a great platoon and a great army. That platoon may beat the snot out of all other platoons, but it cant be compared to the actual army. I know they certainly were considered one of the deciding factors of the conquest of Assimia when the Amarr were warring against the Udorian city states due to their strong militaristic background as skirmishers. However information on the Cyber Knights is hard to find so I'm curious as to where these little excerpts are coming from so I can go and read them. As far as I can tell there is not information of cited sources of the Cyber Knights deploying en masse to the conflict they too seem like elite units as its seems like the investment in developing them would be too great to use a run of the mill frontline soldiers. "That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die."
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3090	Posted - 2015.05.11 22:21:00 - [25] - Quote Khanid article "Long before the Amarr Empire took to the sky, Khanid males were recognized as the best infantrymen in the Empire. During the Reclaiming, Khanid warriors were at the forefront of the subjugation of the Ealur, the Ni-Kunni, and the Minmatar. Though physical stature and bravery count for less today than it did then, many Khanid males have fully embraced the warrior tradition. Modern Khanid society was shaped by the ancient warrior lifestyle of their past. The Khanid female tends to be fiercely independent and resourceful, long accustomed to fending for herself. She backs down from no one, and is very much the mistress of her own destiny." "Cyber Knights Many of the Khanid want to keep their warriors competitive, but the only way to do so in the modern world is through extensive body enhancements. The advanced knowledge of cyber implants possessed by the Amarr has proven exceptionally useful in this regard. Some Khanid still aim to excel in physical combat, while the more progressive ones seek to become masters of modern warfare." Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 423	Posted - 2015.05.11 22:49:00 - [26] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I want a suit with 0 armour and shields, but it sprints at 30m/s. the air resistance will kill you Click me
Sardonk Eternia Tiny Universe 298	Posted - 2015.05.11 22:55:00 - [27] - Quote Cool thread
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 10057	Posted - 2015.05.11 23:14:00 - [28] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff. Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance. There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide the mass that by and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp. Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made. On a second thought, It might be more fair to use 50mm armor plates like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/50mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I as a point of reference which come out with a number of about .8396 kilo's to point of HP, because armor plate scaling is weird. The 50mm plate variation puts an amarr sentinel at 1100lbs. Yay space math. 50mm steel plating 1 gives 9400 dust hp for 15000 kg, providing a ratio of 1.595kg/hp or its t2 variant is 15000 dust hp for 15000kg which is a happy 1:1 hp/kg ratio. It's probably safe to ignore my 400mm reference because that stuff is stupidly thick, and 50mm is just a little bit thinner than conventional 60mm vehicle plating used today. So dropsuits are probably using something along the line of 25mm-30mm plating. Amarr sentinel directly references in its description using 25mm ceramic composites OR steel plating, none of the other dropsuits talk about what they use specifically. Also, I'd like to point out that we can flip vehicles that are upside down. That's probably no easy feat. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 426	Posted - 2015.05.11 23:25:00 - [29] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff. Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance. There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide the mass that by and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp. Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made. On a second thought, It might be more fair to use 50mm armor plates like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/50mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I as a point of reference which come out with a number of about .8396 kilo's to point of HP, because armor plate scaling is weird. The 50mm plate variation puts an amarr sentinel at 1100lbs. Yay space math. 50mm steel plating 1 gives 9400 dust hp for 15000 kg, providing a ratio of 1.595kg/hp or its t2 variant is 15000 dust hp for 15000kg which is a happy 1:1 hp/kg ratio. It's probably safe to ignore my 400mm reference because that stuff is stupidly thick, and 50mm is just a little bit thinner than conventional 60mm vehicle plating used today. So dropsuits are probably using something along the line of 25mm-30mm plating. Amarr sentinel directly references in its description using 25mm ceramic composites OR steel plating, none of the other dropsuits talk about what they use specifically. Also, I'd like to point out that we can flip vehicles that are upside down. That's probably no easy feat. We do that with our minds. Can't you see we're still holding our weapon as we flip the vehicle? Click me
Khulmach Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2015.05.12 18:12:00 - [30] - Quote somewhere between 30, 40, and 500 pounds.

MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3099	Posted - 2015.05.12 18:14:00 - [31] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Also, I'd like to point out that we can flip vehicles that are upside down. That's probably no easy feat. And sentinels pack around 400-500lb machine guns / forge guns PLUS RESERVE AMMO. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 2335	Posted - 2015.05.12 18:23:00 - [32] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: lol it seems to depend on the day. I swear sometimes my character moves with such grace and finesse and on other days it's like my character slammed a few quarts of oil for breakfast. , it could also just be me lol Haha right, and these constant speeds also suggest the planets we fight on have the same gravity do they not?


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