|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3072
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 16:27:00 -
[1] - Quote
Our skeletons are constructed from lightweight space metal, we have a lot of redundant and enhanced organs, nanites course through our veins. There's no specific weight to suits, but let's make a rough comparison with some stuff.
Our enhanced clones have 10 hp before they're terminated (basically how people can be at 0 hp yet still live), I'd speculate that a normal baseline human has ~2-5 hp, a commando punches for 240 damage - they could kill 48-120 people in one punch if there was no limitation of space/distance.
There's also a factor of 100 difference between eve/dust numbers so if we take an eve ship or even an item like https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/400mm_Reinforced_Rolled_Tungsten_Plates_I note that it provides 1050 hp for 275 000kg of mass (these numbers can range quite a bit). Multiply the HP by 100 and you get 10500, divide that by the mass and you get a number of about 2.619 kilo's per point of hp.
Amarr sentinel with no skills has 600 base armor, which would make their suit weigh about 1571 kilo's. Multiply that by 2.2 and you get a number of around 3457LB's of weight, not accounting for weapon or power supply or other stuff. I'm not going to bother factoring for armor plates or other things, but let's just make the assumption that these suits are big and quite heavy even with some abstractions made.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3073
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 16:40:00 -
[2] - Quote
I added more to my post. Suits are probably lighter because reasons. Amarr sentinel description talks about 25mm ceramic composite or steel plating, no other dropsuit mentions what they use... so yeah, numbers.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3074
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 17:15:00 -
[3] - Quote
The Lion ElJonson wrote:heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what?
Factor of 100 difference in hp. a MCC has a pretty large amount of HP for it's size IIRC it's around cruiser HP if you converted it into eve units and eve ships aren't able to descend into orbit or use their actual ammo, because the first kills the ship and the latter is concord restricted.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3074
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 17:17:00 -
[4] - Quote
Cody Sietz wrote:Something I've wondered is weather these suits existed before clones were ever a though in the Amarr empires mind.
If so, then normal humans would have to be able to wear them.
My theory is that the sentinel and heavy suits were designed by the Amarr in the clones in mind making them super heavy(duh)
The Gallente also had a black Eagle Scout suit for its special forces(seems they were used before clones, thereby making them lighter)
The Caldaris assault suit seems like it could have been special order for clones(being that it's uncomfortable, I don't know if they would have wanted that on normal human soldiers who have to wear it for long periods)
And the Minmatar simply used a space welder's suit and duck taped some fighting stuff to it.
The only conventional dropsuit that predates our clones existence is the amarr sentinel (and maybe the commando) and even it's undergone severe changes since our clones became a thing, it was used by the Khanid Cyber-Knights who were the 'best damn ground army in new eden'. Everything else is pretty new because they're built right into the clone.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3077
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 18:05:00 -
[5] - Quote
The Lion ElJonson wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The Lion ElJonson wrote:heres one, whats a standard EvE frigates armour and shield at? then compar it too an MCC, the ask why is all 5 null cannons targeting the enemies MCC during a stomp when a tin foil frigate is bombarding my team every 3 minutes? Crazy or what? Factor of 100 difference in hp. a MCC has a pretty large amount of HP for it's size IIRC it's around cruiser HP if you converted it into eve units and eve ships aren't able to descend into orbit or use their actual ammo, because the first kills the ship and the latter is concord restricted. EvE ships wouldn't be able take off from planets because of gravitational pull, They can fire orbital bombardment ammo
Is that not what I said? Eve ships are built in space for a reason, and ob ammo is intentionally neutered because firing anti-matter at planets is a bad idea. It kind of kills ****ing everything which concord doesn't like. You're not even allowed to try and target planets in eve without an immortal clone soldier providing targeting data and making the request for fire with intentionally neutered guns.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3087
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 20:41:00 -
[6] - Quote
BLOOD Ruler wrote:Good stuff, also thanks for the numbers Mina
They're probably way the hell off from being accurate, but they're not a terrible estimation of just armor weight.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3087
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 21:43:00 -
[7] - Quote
I had actually forgotten about the Kameira's. Cyber Knights were long considered the mainstay of the amarrian ground forces and were one of the better groups. Kameira's are elites that are a bit too small in number to make a massive army out of :(
It's like the difference between a great platoon and a great army. That platoon may beat the snot out of all other platoons, but it cant be compared to the actual army.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3090
|
Posted - 2015.05.11 22:21:00 -
[8] - Quote
Khanid article
"Long before the Amarr Empire took to the sky, Khanid males were recognized as the best infantrymen in the Empire. During the Reclaiming, Khanid warriors were at the forefront of the subjugation of the Ealur, the Ni-Kunni, and the Minmatar. Though physical stature and bravery count for less today than it did then, many Khanid males have fully embraced the warrior tradition.
Modern Khanid society was shaped by the ancient warrior lifestyle of their past. The Khanid female tends to be fiercely independent and resourceful, long accustomed to fending for herself. She backs down from no one, and is very much the mistress of her own destiny."
"Cyber Knights
Many of the Khanid want to keep their warriors competitive, but the only way to do so in the modern world is through extensive body enhancements. The advanced knowledge of cyber implants possessed by the Amarr has proven exceptionally useful in this regard. Some Khanid still aim to excel in physical combat, while the more progressive ones seek to become masters of modern warfare."
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3099
|
Posted - 2015.05.12 18:14:00 -
[9] - Quote
Aeon Amadi wrote:Also, I'd like to point out that we can flip vehicles that are upside down. That's probably no easy feat.
And sentinels pack around 400-500lb machine guns / forge guns PLUS RESERVE AMMO.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
|
|
|
|