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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.09 13:44:00 -
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hello there fellow merc, just now i discover how to counteract those who plays as what i like to call them as shotgun cloaker. Apparently the shotgun has a delay when shooting and if you manage to avoid the first shot you can kill them but everyone must already know this so to execute the kill more efficiently use the almighty BOLT PISTOL ( i might exaggerated about the almighty part but this weapon is really good as anti-personnel). To do the kill, just avoid the first shot and hipfire the SC (shotgun cloaker). It might take some practice but it has a success rate of 99%. The 1% is failure of course.
The reason why this is an effective method is because :
1.The light/scout dropsuit has little damage resistance polar opposite with the bolt pistol high damage output
2.you will not miss cause the SC always come forward and you just need the speed or amour to get the kill, also backstep and jumping to maximise the chance for the kill
3.The range of the shotgun is less superior than BP
I don't know if this info is good or people already knew this and it didn't work. I found out about this when i was having a 1v1, light VS scout and the spec to my light dropsuit are this
Caldari Light Frame C-1
Militia Mybrofil Stimulant x2
Militia Nova Knives
Bolt Pistol
Flux Grenade
Militia Drop Uplink
Flux Active Scanner
Enhanced Ferroscale Plates
Also the scout i was fighting was a PROTO user and the in-game name of the SC was Soko Soko (thank you for being a test subject for my experiment to find a way to deal with your kind, No racism intended to you. Just your in-game character)
" I'm gonna heal your ass that fell on the ground "
HELP SOMEONE GET BACK UP THEIR ASS 60+
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.05.09 13:54:00 -
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Killing a shotgun scout isn't hard though, especially if they use a cloak.
The delay of switching from a cloak is so long that you could read a short story before they actually pull their shotgun out; especially with the decloaking sound screaming "I'm here!"
Just use your eyes to see them in from of you (cloak doesn't actually hide you worth ****), use your ears to hear them decloak behind you.
Sound is incredibly important (and well done) in Dust. You can listen and know exactly what's going on around you and pinpoint where it is- sniper fire missing you, someone dropping an RE, a nearby sniper firing at someone else, knives charging near you. And I'm hearing all of this just from my TV, not from any headphones.
Some details can be ignored
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:06:00 -
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its not that SC are hard to kill but can you survive the encounter with the SC
P.S. thanks for feedback  and mentioning about the sound part, I tend to listen less when fighting
" I'm gonna heal your ass that fell on the ground "
HELP SOMEONE GET BACK UP THEIR ASS 60+
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9536
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:18:00 -
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Balts Xryiel wrote:
To do the kill, just avoid the first shot ...
How do you avoid the first shot if it comes from behind?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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SLENDER M4N
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
296
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:27:00 -
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This is completely irrelevant to the thread, but I got hatemail from a scout b/c I killed him while he was "invisible." I then replied saying that he was totally visible next to the container he was cloaked by. 
KainNoBueno
I watch hentai for the plot
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:27:00 -
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I did say there is a 1% failure didn't i ?
" I'm gonna heal your ass that fell on the ground "
HELP SOMEONE GET BACK UP THEIR ASS 60+
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3903
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:28:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Balts Xryiel wrote:
To do the kill, just avoid the first shot ...
How do you avoid the first shot if it comes from behind?
Strafe walk all the time
-or-
Hear uncloak and jump to side
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
3903
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:29:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:This is completely irrelevant to the thread, but I got hatemail from a scout b/c I killed him while he was "invisible." I then replied saying that he was totally visible next to the container he was cloaked by.
Reminds me of TF2 spois. Those are more nnnoying because they're 100% invisible.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:31:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Balts Xryiel wrote:
To do the kill, just avoid the first shot ...
How do you avoid the first shot if it comes from behind? Strafe walk all the time -or- Hear uncloak and jump to side
YEAH do do that cause it also work but my fellow merc need to remember that 1% failure is an always. This method is just to counteract SC not A solution To SC stop being A DI**
" I'm gonna heal your ass that fell on the ground "
HELP SOMEONE GET BACK UP THEIR ASS 60+
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9536
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Posted - 2015.05.09 14:55:00 -
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Balts Xryiel wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Balts Xryiel wrote:
To do the kill, just avoid the first shot ...
How do you avoid the first shot if it comes from behind? Strafe walk all the time YEAH do do that cause it also work but my fellow merc need to remember that 1% failure is an always. This method is just to counteract SC not A solution To SC stop being A DI**
I think shotgun range is something like 4 meters. How do you make the SC miss with a shotgun at point-blank range? Just by strafe walking or hopping? Seems to me that a shotgunner standing right behind me would hit me 99% of the time, not miss me 99% of the time.
This all sounds pretty fishy to me.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7370
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Posted - 2015.05.09 15:07:00 -
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A good counter to Cloak users consist of not cloaking, being aware of surroundings/Proto Active Scanner.
The delay gets most users killed. Me included. |
Summa Militum
TotalAscendancy
424
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Posted - 2015.05.09 15:09:00 -
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Not once in the entire time I have been playing this game has a scout with a shotgun given me a hard time (not saying I have never died by them). None of my fittings are capable of dying from a single shot from a shotgun.
When the first shot goes off on me I simply jump and turn while in the air and open fire the moment I see the scout. They always seem to drop in no more than a split second. |
Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1356
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Posted - 2015.05.09 15:32:00 -
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It goes like this.
If it's a good player, he'll land all his shots.
Jumping, spinning, whatever you will do, doesn't really make it that harder.
How to kill one? Shoot him.
Caldari Loyalist
thecreaturehub fan
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.05.09 15:35:00 -
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I think shotgun range is something like 4 meters. How do you make the SC miss with a shotgun at point-blank range? Just by strafe walking or hopping? Seems to me that a shotgunner standing right behind me would hit me 99% of the time, not miss me 99% of the time.
This all sounds pretty fishy to me. Are you trolling us, Balts?
-What part of that 1% failure do you not understand.  -
" I'm gonna heal your ass that fell on the ground "
HELP SOMEONE GET BACK UP THEIR ASS 60+
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9537
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Posted - 2015.05.09 18:53:00 -
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Balts Xryiel wrote:Quote:I think shotgun range is something like 4 meters. How do you make the SC miss with a shotgun at point-blank range? Just by strafe walking or hopping? Seems to me that a shotgunner standing right behind me would hit me 99% of the time, not miss me 99% of the time.
This all sounds pretty fishy to me. Are you trolling us, Balts?
-What part of that 1% failure do you not understand. -
I understand that 1% failure means it works 99 times out of 100. If shotguns are so reliably beaten at point-blank range, then they must not be working as intended, right?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
9977
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Posted - 2015.05.09 19:54:00 -
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A big problem is that the PS3 has limited sound channels and a lot of times you won't be able to hear the cloak animation because other sounds are considered a priority. It wasn't until recently we were even given the ability to hear behind us (I have a video of that if you wanna go check it out).
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
570
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Posted - 2015.05.09 21:46:00 -
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The quickest fix to this problem is always and I mean always a mass driver.
Sandwich maker LVL. 5
You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
My like button is back. C:<
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
570
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Posted - 2015.05.09 21:49:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Balts Xryiel wrote:
To do the kill, just avoid the first shot ...
How do you avoid the first shot if it comes from behind?
Spider senses
Sandwich maker LVL. 5
You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
My like button is back. C:<
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Balts Xryiel
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:39:00 -
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Let me clarify one thing, yes 99% at point-blank you die but this thread was intended to show on HOW TO SURVIVE AN ENCOUNTER WITH THEM NOT ABLE TO SEE WHEN THERE ARE COMING TO R4P3 YOU FROM BEHIND BETTER. But it is my fault for not emphasising or even using the word ENCOUNTER at the first place and the term 'avoid the first shot' is kind of vague so i apologise on my part
-One does not just RE a Heavy-
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Megaman Trigger
Ready to Play
323
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Posted - 2015.05.10 01:57:00 -
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If I see a cloaked scout moving, or I survive the initial shotgun blast, I tend to use the Flaylock and rely on the splash damage since scouts tend to have low HP. Unless I'm using an AFG, in which case I'll go for the charge while strafing like crazy. It's satisfying to watch them fly. Almost as satisfying as getting a melee kill.
Purifier. First Class.
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