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          Aeon Amadi 
          Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:10:00 -
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          What Dust 514 would be like if there was no such thing as the Militia/Standard/Advanced/Prototype power-level system. 
  If, instead of:
  Militia Amarr Medium Frame Amarr Medium Frame A-1 Assault A-1  Amarr Medium Frame A/1-Series Assault A/1-Series Amarr Medium Frame Ak.0 Assault Ak.0
  Militia Caldari Medium Frame Caldari Medium Frame C-1 Assault C-1  Caldari Medium Frame C/1-Series Assault C/1-Series Caldari Medium Frame ck.0 Assault Ck.0
  Militia Gallente Medium Frame Gallente Medium Frame G-1 Assault G-1  Gallente Medium Frame G/1-Series Assault G/1-Series Gallente Medium Frame Gk.0 Assault Gk.0
  Militia Minmatar Medium Frame Minmatar Medium Frame M-1 Assault M-1  Minmatar Medium Frame M/1-Series Assault M/1-Series Minmatar Medium Frame Mk.0 Assault Mk.0
  You had, simply:
  Amarr Medium Frame Amarr Assault
  Caldari Medium Frame Caldari Assault
  Gallente Medium Frame Gallente Assault
  Minmatar Medium Frame Minmatar Assault
  Imagine if the differences were based on role and racial combat philosophy, not power-levels or tiers.  Imagine if fitting capability and performance was affected by your skills and not a price-tag.  Imagine if the slot-count on the suit was determined by the suit's role on the battlefield, not it's meta-level.  Imagine a suit being balanced to be viable as itself, not terrible starting out and viable in the end-game (looking at you, Cloak Scouts).  Imagine the end of Proto-stomping, because proto-stomping couldn't even exist.  Imagine an end to the huge veteran vs newbie disparity in favor of skill-based longevity. Imagine an end to PC SP requirements as a standard.  Imagine an end to flippant ISK payout balancing that does nothing to stop the rich from fielding high-end gear. 
  Just imagine, for a moment, all the positive effects that could be garnished if we narrowed our focus and broadened our horizons. Imagine if we just implemented legitimate tieracide.
 You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go 
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          Thokk Nightshade 
          Montana Militia
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:16:00 -
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          I can't like this enough. Agree 100% with everything you said. WIth this, however, are we applying it across the board. Weapons, vehicles, modules, equipment? Or is it specifically regarding suits?
 Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash. 
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          Genral69 death 
          Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:17:00 -
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          Then there would be nothing but strafe masters, stomping everyone. Which would make this game like every other, where all you had to do is have a better reaction time cough! (Cod, bf)
 General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995 
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          JIMvc2 
          Consolidated Dust
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:17:00 -
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          When players say only proto for PC = Stupidest Rule = really like if Proto will outlive the rest.
  I've killed protos with my milita RR = It takes skill = It feels great to kill a no brainer with a milita weapon.
  But killing a proto with a proto = meh = boring...
 (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!! 
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          Makuta Miserix 
          Nos Nothi
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:18:00 -
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          I'd love this.
  But a good portion of the forums have been against such ideas for a long, long time.
  I'll never really understand why.
 Proud supporter of Scouts.  
- Makuta Miserix the Assault/Logi part time Scout.
 
 
Private Beta Veteran Dust 514/Starhawk 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          And the ButtPirates
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:22:00 -
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          We've been imagining that since closed beta.
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          xxwhitedevilxx M 
          Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:24:00 -
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          Genral69 death wrote:Then there would be nothing but strafe masters, stomping everyone. Which would make this game like every other, where all you had to do is have a better reaction time cough! (Cod, bf)  
  Well, in my opinion, it's always better than a game where all you have to have is Skill Points and in-game currency  
 Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge. 
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          Operative 1174 Uuali 
          Y.A.M.A.H
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:30:00 -
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          Amen brudda!
 Death is a serious businessGǪ So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company. 
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          BLOOD Ruler 
          VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:47:00 -
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          Aeon Amadi, Do you have any idea the number of problems you solved.
 
 Makuta Miserix wrote: A good portion of the forums have been against such ideas for a long, long time l never really understand why.   Really, you do not know why, Blood says mockingly. Is it not obvious? The fools require, need better gear because they have no skill.
 No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose
 For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist
 The Purpose Of Life Is To End 
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          Eruditus 920 
          Nemo Malus Felix
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:49:00 -
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          No one disagree with him. 
  He will mess his britches and start insulting you.
  *watch this*
  This has been discussed for years.
  What's your point?
 "Stay gold, Ponyboy..." 
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          Forever ETC 
          Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 00:53:00 -
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          This only covers Assualt suits... If we did this I'm pretty sure we could get the rest of the weapons and vehicles. I don't like yellow Gallente tanks...
 PIE
Lasers4life
Oh am I part of a cure? Or am I part of the disease? 
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          Aeon Amadi 
          Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:04:00 -
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          Eruditus 920 wrote:No one disagree with him. 
  He will mess his britches and start insulting you.
  *watch this*
  This has been discussed for years.
  What's your point?  
  Thanks for your feedback.
 You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go 
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          Spademan 
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:11:00 -
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          I'm fine with this idea, but it never did seem to gain traction. What were some of the arguments again....
  I think this might have been one: "How would I feel a sense of progression in this game if not for tiers?"
 What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will. 
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          Eruditus 920 
          Nemo Malus Felix
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:13:00 -
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          Aeon Amadi wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:No one disagree with him. 
  He will mess his britches and start insulting you.
  *watch this*
  This has been discussed for years.
  What's your point?  Thanks for your feedback.   
  I think I gave some feedback on this topic back in March of 2014.
  You can go back and refer to that.
 
 "Stay gold, Ponyboy..." 
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          devjo88 
          Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:15:00 -
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          JIMvc2 wrote:When players say only proto for PC = Stupidest Rule = really like if Proto will outlive the rest.
  I've killed protos with my milita RR = It takes skill = It feels great to kill a no brainer with a milita weapon.
  But killing a proto with a proto = meh = boring...   so guess who want MLT pc
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          Ripley Riley 
          Incorruptibles
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:15:00 -
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          That would be pretty incredible. I'd support such a change 100% 
  Module and weapon tiers would still exist, right?
 @Ripley_Riley
"Ripley > Soraya" - Arkena Wyrnspire 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          And the ButtPirates
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 01:27:00 -
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          Eruditus 920 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:No one disagree with him. 
  He will mess his britches and start insulting you.
  *watch this*
  This has been discussed for years.
  What's your point?  Thanks for your feedback.   I think I gave some feedback on this topic back in March of 2014. You can go back and refer to that.   New community, and a classic forum topic is a welcome change to the usual whining of the build.
 Some details can be ignored 
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          Lightning35 Delta514 
          48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 02:55:00 -
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          Well then, wouldn't the tank terrified on dropsuits sort of help? I mean, it would be better but not perfect. All suits would have same slots or level just different pg/cpu
 48th Special Operations Force. 
Twitter- @48SOF 
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          Lynn Beck 
          Delta Vanguard 6
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        Posted - 2015.05.09 03:02:00 -
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          On the side of if we tiericided weapons- Higher damage, lower of another stat?
  RR for example uses a heavier bullet, so lower RoF but damage increases.
  ScR uses a different crystal, so it loses range for its' damage.
  CR uses heavier bullets, so it loses effective range for its' damage.
  AR loses optimal range and RoF, but gains a ton of damage/dPs
 General John Ripper 
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