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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:32:00 -
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The warlords jump height was the coolest thing to happen since I reg'd. The change in map dynamics and added strategical positioning was just sublime.
I never got the hang of using myos in combat to jump over people and fire down, that simply isn't my playstyle as a point defender and blockade breaker. I used myos to get above and behind the enemy to deploy uplinks. Maps like the lag facility, or the train depot will never be the same now.
This "fix" is particularly disappointing for the lack of discussion that preceded it. The patch notes make claims about clearly intended goals for the myos finally being met, but I have a clear recollection of rattati, and an overwhelming majority of the player base, being extremely pleased with jump height. Oh well.
What really led to this decision to nerf jump height? Was it the smattering of cryhards on the forums complaining about aiming? If so, I guess we can all look forward to a significant ScR nerf in the next hotfix.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1006
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:47:00 -
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Then the original design intent was short sighted. The warlords 1.0 jump height was perfect, and never posed any threat as a game breaker. When I put on a 4 myo fit to get uplinks in strategic places, I knew I was going to lose a very expensive suit the moment someone fired at me. The fragility of a jump fit was more than enough of a drawback to limit their usage.
More downside to this "fix": engaging blaster HAVs with a PLC just got 5X harder, no more awesome plc vids from beast or Kirk, rooftop camping just became a thing again...
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1006
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Posted - 2015.05.07 13:58:00 -
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That's a damn fine point. I might not have the same opinion about myos if I played Gallenets suits, or Fotm chaser Amarr suits.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1006
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:03:00 -
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I was being yeasty.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1006
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Posted - 2015.05.07 14:26:00 -
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5 complex myos was pointless. 4 got you places that three couldn't. Having to put 4-5 myos to obtain the previous jump height of 3 is going to stink.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1012
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Posted - 2015.05.07 16:02:00 -
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I never said the PLC became less awesome, just that there won't be anymore highly entertaining videos of the PLC on jump fits. I've always sheild/ regen tanked my PLC fit, except for one AV fit that doesn't need more than three myos to clear a tank anyway.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1013
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Posted - 2015.05.07 16:24:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The original jump height was stupid and something only a 10 yr old would rave about just like their invincible imaginary finger pistol that kills everything in one shot, but protects them from other imaginary finger pistols.
Why height anyway? It makes more sense that you'd jump further forward.
How about a little less invective and a little more content? You think jump height was stupid? Ok, WHY? Only a ten year old would enjoy jumping? How the hell do you even qualify a statement like that? Did you conduct a controlled survey of ten year olds to determine their jump height preferences?
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1013
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Posted - 2015.05.07 16:48:00 -
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I think you are dramatically exaggerating the effectiveness of myos, and completely ignoring the massive fitting drawbacks to justify your determination of imbalance. Sure, I'll acknowledge that certain parameters like jump speed (when paired with kincats) bore reconsideration, but I maintain that a jump height nerf was unnecessary.
Whose children have fun at the expense of others? Not mine.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1021
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Posted - 2015.05.07 18:10:00 -
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Plates significantly diminish the mobility of a jump fit, and sheild suits have low native armor values. Additionally, plugging plates means no kincats, more so for caldari, which also diminishes the mobility of a jump fit. You can't tank plates and accomplish the majestic feats of evasion that you claim to be so detrimental.
Look, I'm glad you are contributing to this discussion, but the thing that made me upset in the first place was the finality and suddenness of the nerf. This discussion should have taken place before jump height got trashed.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1030
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:47:00 -
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Well, once the cryhards realize that people can still jump with splash weapons, myos will prolly get nerfed even harder. It was fun while it lasted, I guess. GG.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1079
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Posted - 2015.05.11 22:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Then the original design intent was short sighted. The warlords 1.0 jump height was perfect, and never posed any threat as a game breaker. When I put on a 4 myo fit to get uplinks in strategic places, I knew I was going to lose a very expensive suit the moment someone fired at me. The fragility of a jump fit was more than enough of a drawback to limit their usage.
More downside to this "fix": engaging blaster HAVs with a PLC just got 5X harder, no more awesome plc vids from beast or Kirk, rooftop camping just became a thing again... Kirk always used if I am not mistaken the PLC on a Commando or Rattati's. In both cases he did not engage the vehicles by jumping around them like a lune and I'm also pretty sure neither fit made use of more that 1 Myofibral if one at all.
You are right, it was YJR I was thinking of. Subscribed to waaay too many Dust channels.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1079
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Posted - 2015.05.11 23:57:00 -
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Yeah, I miss jumping, but as long as the mechanic isn't available to all races, it's not really fair. Jumpacks 2015.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy
Rise Of Legion.
1079
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Posted - 2015.05.12 00:16:00 -
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I agree, there were a dozen ways we could have compromised. I guess the QQ about jumping was a lot more prevant than I ever thought. At least we can still jump a little.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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