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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1331
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:44:00 -
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Simple as that. Now I am not a shield tanker and won't even pretend to be, however as a sentinel I find that I rip through any Caldari suits like a hot knife through butter. In my opinion the Caldari Sentinel is a joke due to it being a shield tanker.
I want to have a challenge when I take on Caldari Assaults and Sents, not just free kills. So CCP buff them.
Signed.
Today's special:
PAIN
Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
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VAHZZ
1760
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:47:00 -
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Caldari suits are just pathetic right now, I kinda actually agree here. But, they really get everything handed to them on a silver platter. The Caldari are poster childs.
I pass my knowledge unto others.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1332
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Posted - 2015.05.07 04:53:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Caldari suits are just pathetic right now, I kinda actually agree here. But, they really get everything handed to them on a silver platter. The Caldari are poster childs.
Yeah they kind do lol, but still as it stands shields are way to weak in the game.
And I think they are more like the poster child's down syndrome cousin. They mean well and have their moments but are still handicapped.
Today's special:
PAIN
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
597
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:00:00 -
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I appreciate this coming from the other side. I also appreciate fairness and the desire for a good fight
Shields, the silent killer.
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
961
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:24:00 -
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Give us our Caldari back BYATCH!
SIGNED
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Sennina Sovereign
ROGUE RELICS
36
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:25:00 -
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I agree with this. +1
Also, The Cal Sentinel isn't THAT bad, I can easily beat other sentinels in 1v1's |
Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
597
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:27:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Caldari suits are just pathetic right now, I kinda actually agree here. But, they really get everything handed to them on a silver platter. The Caldari are poster childs.
That's only ... Half true..ok mostly true
Shields, the silent killer.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1335
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:31:00 -
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Sennina Sovereign wrote:I agree with this. +1
Also, The Cal Sentinel isn't THAT bad, I can easily beat other sentinels in 1v1's
Would love to face you sometime then. Most the time I can take out Caldari Sents without breaking a sweet. Then again flux grenades can be a bit OP vs Cal Sents.
Today's special:
PAIN
Comes with a side of salads and mash potatoes.
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Vell0cet
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3086
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:31:00 -
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I think a shield rep tool should be part of the equation. Shields have many advantages such as not slowing you down as much and the high regen, but I agree they need a buff. If shields were buffed, this could help with the ScR and AScR balance issues as well. With the current armor meta, they're tools for solving a problem that didn't exist. As a result, they needed to be buffed to be relevant. If shields were buffed, then the ScR and AScR could be toned down some and still have a strong role on the battlefield.
Best PvE idea ever!
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VAHZZ
1762
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:33:00 -
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Squagga wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Caldari suits are just pathetic right now, I kinda actually agree here. But, they really get everything handed to them on a silver platter. The Caldari are poster childs. That's only ... Half true..ok mostly true
You know it is all true.
The Caldari really do need a buff, but not that much of a OverPowering buff like most buffs.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1216
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:40:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:. The Caldari are poster childs.
Quite literally. Official action shots and photo's tend to always show Caldari.
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
**--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
599
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:46:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:I think a shield rep tool should be part of the equation. Shields have many advantages such as not slowing you down as much and the high regen, but I agree they need a buff. If shields were buffed, this could help with the ScR and AScR balance issues as well. With the current armor meta, they're tools for solving a problem that didn't exist. As a result, they needed to be buffed to be relevant. If shields were buffed, then the ScR and AScR could be toned down some and still have a strong role on the battlefield.
We used to have one on the LAVs. It was taken away, due to abuse
Shields, the silent killer.
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
599
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:48:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Squagga wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Caldari suits are just pathetic right now, I kinda actually agree here. But, they really get everything handed to them on a silver platter. The Caldari are poster childs. That's only ... Half true..ok mostly true You know it is all true. The Caldari really do need a buff, but not that much of a OverPowering buff like most buffs.
The only reason why this is valid is because they apparently 'ran outta space' to put the rest of the racial variant stuff in. Which I'm still not buyin. Also I want to see those other racial things. Yeah, I don't want a crazy buff. I just want to be able to fight back again. Pretty broken right now
Shields, the silent killer.
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
601
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Posted - 2015.05.07 05:51:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:VAHZZ wrote:. The Caldari are poster childs. Quite literally. Official action shots and photo's tend to always show Caldari.
I think it was only one time they did Min. Maybe another time Amarr. Someone just did a thread about the Gallente serpent thing? I dunno what all that is. But the suit actually looks pretty boss. They should be advertising more stuff like that. It actually would be good advertising if they did racial lore videos
Shields, the silent killer.
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Genral69 death
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
223
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Posted - 2015.05.07 10:18:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Simple as that. Now I am not a shield tanker and won't even pretend to be, however as a sentinel I find that I rip through any Caldari suits like a hot knife through butter. In my opinion the Caldari Sentinel is a joke due to it being a shield tanker.
I want to have a challenge when I take on Caldari Assaults and Sents, not just free kills. So CCP buff them.
Signed. I agreed that caldari suits need some sort of buff by doing this your going to buff min sentinels at the same time due to them being partly shield based
General limited: warming failure to pay, may lead to death,massive amount of pain or even lose of family. Since 1995
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Sennina Sovereign
ROGUE RELICS
40
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:47:00 -
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I think we need to buff the amount of hp shield extenders give. If you can get over a 1000 armor easily with certain suits, why can't shields do the same?
Example Basic old: 33 hp, Basic new: 66 hp Advanced old: 50, Advanced new: 100 hp Proto old: 66 hp, Proto new: 132 hp.
Now before any of you pro-armor loving scrubs start yelling OP, keep in mind that you guys have armor repairs that work constantly and armor repair tools that give you BS amount of points. |
BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1791
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Posted - 2015.05.08 00:54:00 -
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Merc die to quickly.
Sign.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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sir RAVEN WING
3529
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:04:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:VAHZZ wrote:. The Caldari are poster childs. Quite literally. Official action shots and photo's tend to always show Caldari. Actually...
The new posters are of the Gallente.
Why do shield suits even exist anymore?
Day 6/30 Calscout Knifer/Last of A Kind/Sneaky
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sir RAVEN WING
3529
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:06:00 -
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Also
Signed
Day 6/30 Calscout Knifer/Last of A Kind/Sneaky
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VAHZZ
1775
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:08:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Talos Vagheitan wrote:VAHZZ wrote:. The Caldari are poster childs. Quite literally. Official action shots and photo's tend to always show Caldari. Actually... The new posters are of the Gallente. Why do shield suits even exist anymore?
I love it when you talk dirty.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9504
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:15:00 -
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-1 for HP Creep. If Armor > Shield, nerf Armor.
Ideas: Decrease +HP Increase mobility penalties Add mobility penalties to ferro
* Exempt Heavies and Commandos from increased penalty
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6456
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:23:00 -
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Wow, your short-range weapon is tearing apart a suit from the race completely built around fighting at long range? Shocker.
Some details can be ignored
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1351
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:28:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:-1 for HP Creep. If Armor > Shield, nerf Armor.
Ideas: Decrease +HP Increase mobility penalties Add mobility penalties to ferro
* Exempt Heavies and Commandos from increased penalty
TTK is low enough as is and this will put shield tankers in an ever worse spot
Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Wow, your short-range weapon is tearing apart a suit from the race completely built around fighting at long range? Shocker.
That is just my observation using my HMG. Also against Calsents with HMG I can tear them apart. Or are they suppose to be long range too?
The problem is shield tanking is not viable in the current meta.
Today's special:
PAIN
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Ace Ravager
Horizons' Edge No Context
39
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:41:00 -
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I've been thinking about doing this for so long
Also how can a militia AScR rip through a 800 eHP Proto Cal Ass
Signed
Come here for the crack -Sniffs crack-
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Ralden Caster
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
220
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:51:00 -
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I could use more target practice with my assault rifle.
Signed.
"I am frequently misquoted."
-Aeon Amadi
Welcome to my TIME MACHINE!
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Ralden Caster
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
220
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:53:00 -
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Also, before we tweak shields, we should change up the damage profiles for weapons so hybrid weapons are less "prejudiced" against a specific tank.
Hybrid/blaster: +5/-5 Hybrid/railgun: -5/+5 Laser: +10/-10 Projectile: -10/+10
"I am frequently misquoted."
-Aeon Amadi
Welcome to my TIME MACHINE!
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
942
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:34:00 -
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I have pro Cal Sentinel, Scout, Commando, Adv Assault and Logi (would have those pro if they had bonuses that were worth it). I am ok with current HP values (Sentinel in particular would be OP with CCP-buffedGäó extenders), but utility mods and general shield fitting do need to be buffed, as well as a reasonable regen threshold implented and the delay penalty on extenders reduced/replaced with a profile penalty by some combination of tier/stacking/frame size.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7345
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:38:00 -
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Sure. I'm alright with this.
However, I don't think it should be a lot. Probably around the Ferroscale area since both don't affect movement speed. If this is the case, it would mean +10 shields per tier. |
sebastian the huds
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
211
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:39:00 -
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i'd like to know why a militia armor plate gives 13 more hp without skills that a prototype shield extendor with maxed skills. as a caldari assault, i need to know.
SIGNED
if i give you a clock, could you tell me the time?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
7345
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Posted - 2015.05.08 02:41:00 -
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Ralden Caster wrote:Also, before we tweak shields, we should change up the damage profiles for weapons so hybrid weapons are less "prejudiced" against a specific tank.
Hybrid/blaster: +5/-5 Hybrid/railgun: -5/+5 Laser: +10/-10 Projectile: -10/+10 Haha no. The closer a weapon comes to zero, the more OP the weapon becomes.
Remember, there is still Proficiency, and damage mods/skills/warbarge bonus.
So, if it is 5/5, I'd do around 120% shields 105% to armor on my AR alone. |
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