DUST Search - Why Do Very Few People use Team Chat

Vesta Opalus wrote:

BLOOD Ruler wrote:

This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too "In the Moment or Blinded by raging".

Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing.
My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion.

Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him.
In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond.
While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict no one would' bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes.

But if it was on and you could see it without having to press select, would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist.
Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players.

The chat box size could be as long and wide as you make it on options.
Ideas, what do you think?

Best solution would be to put dust on the PC so everyone is using a hardware keyboard instead of a controller + software keyboard to type things out. Nobody is going to use the chat to say something if the information is half a minute old or more by the time they are done typing it.

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BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1777	Posted - 2015.05.06 15:45:00 - [1] - Quote This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too in the Moment or Blinded by raging. Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing. My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion. Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him. In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond. While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict they would't bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes. But if it was on without going to the map it would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist. Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players. Ideas, what do you think? There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
Khulmach Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2015.05.06 16:00:00 - [2] - Quote Sounds like a good team builder.
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 953	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:13:00 - [3] - Quote As long as players have the ability to toggle this feature on/off I like this idea. +1 Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Radec fett 52	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:16:00 - [4] - Quote Also ppl without mics will be able to give callouts and let the team know on the enemies position Freedom is a right! I would give my life to free the minmatar. For The Republic!!
7th Son 7 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 953	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:27:00 - [5] - Quote A recent example of how great this could be was the other night I was bored, so I decided to try out the free to play Air/Tank game for the ps4. My first game in I really had no idea what I was doing, anyway, two mins into the match I notice someone in the lower left box was yelling " Help i'm stuck, help!", I notice him (his tank was upside down), so I was able to help him turn his tank over. I did nothing else that match really lol, but that felt good. Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
Ankbar Latrommi Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 151	Posted - 2015.05.06 17:41:00 - [6] - Quote I don't understand why you would be going to Select in the middle of the match. Could you explain that to me? Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1783	Posted - 2015.05.06 19:54:00 - [7] - Quote Ankbar Latrommi wrote: I don't understand why you would be going to Select in the middle of the match. Could you explain that to me? My idea is having chat visible while in action instead of pressing select to see if someone is chatting in need of help or has a good plan. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1783	Posted - 2015.05.06 19:55:00 - [8] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: A recent example of how great this could be was the other night I was bored, so I decided to try out the free to play Air/Tank game for the ps4. My first game in I really had no idea what I was doing, anyway, two mins into the match I notice someone in the lower left box was yelling " Help i'm stuck, help!", I notice him (his tank was upside down), so I was able to help him turn his tank over. I did nothing else that match really lol, but that felt good. That is a very good example. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1783	Posted - 2015.05.06 19:56:00 - [9] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: As long as players have the ability to toggle this feature on/off I like this idea. +1 Sounds like a good idea. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1789	Posted - 2015.05.07 02:03:00 - [10] - Quote Bump for team/strategy building. There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.

Dycane Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2015.05.08 13:52:00 - [11] - Quote This should really be in the game, sweet idea man.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1803	Posted - 2015.05.08 20:03:00 - [12] - Quote Dycane wrote: This should really be in the game, sweet idea man. Thank you. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Godin Thekiller Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3174	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:01:00 - [13] - Quote Even if this happens, it's not like people will still use it. As you said, nobody has the time to go to the chat during a match. It would end up being a trolling tool for people who don't want to actually fight at most. Top lel
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1806	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:17:00 - [14] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Even if this happens, it's not like people will still use it. As you said, nobody has the time to go to the chat during a match. It would end up being a trolling tool for people who don't want to actually fight at most. Why does it feel like you are continuously going against me, this is for those who actually care about teamwork and planning during a match. Basically squads and info givers whom/who have plans an/or would require assistance to kill a certain pest whom keeps killing you and is the reason his team is winning. Merc/people would most definitely use it for many reasons. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
DUST Fiend 16959	Posted - 2015.05.09 07:12:00 - [15] - Quote This is all I have to say about Team Chat This thread is now a dance party ~ Dances Boldly ~ DUST STUFF
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1808	Posted - 2015.05.09 08:11:00 - [16] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: This is all I have to say about Team Chat Yyyyyaaa, that was Team Speak. I mute people who have Mic because their obnoxious. Chat most likely would not work like that, writing is different than continuously talking dumb stuff, rage yelling, static, laud music that interferes with my ability to hear if there is a Merc behind me. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 317	Posted - 2015.05.09 10:54:00 - [17] - Quote CCP would have to fix the in-battle chat bug first but this could help communication. Wouldn't be usable unless you were away from the fight, so maybe add a MGO-style quick callout option that highlights you; press a button, or combination like hold R2 and a d-pad button to signal "need a medic" and then that message pops up in the chat and your chevron/marker glows blue, like if you scan an enemy. Purifier. First Class.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1813	Posted - 2015.05.09 16:59:00 - [18] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: CCP would have to fix the in-battle chat bug first but this could help communication. Wouldn't be usable unless you were away from the fight, so maybe add a MGO-style quick callout option that highlights you; press a button, or combination like hold R2 and a d-pad button to signal "need a medic" and then that message pops up in the chat and your chevron/marker glows blue, like if you scan an enemy. True, You just added an update to the thread, great, also another medic call No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Starlight Burner Arrary of Clusters 246	Posted - 2015.05.09 22:40:00 - [19] - Quote I say remove the scoreboard / Map bindkey from the 'Up arrowkey / Down arrowkey' and replace that with a 'Teamsay Push To Talk' button. If players do not wish to listen to Team Chat, they can go in options and turn it of. Seriously, why do we need a scoreboard/ Map button on the keypad? CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today! Thank you for DUST
Megaman Trigger Ready to Play 320	Posted - 2015.05.09 22:51:00 - [20] - Quote Starlight Burner wrote: I say remove the scoreboard / Map bindkey from the 'Up arrowkey / Down arrowkey' and replace that with a 'Teamsay Push To Talk' button. If players do not wish to listen to Team Chat, they can go in options and turn it of. Seriously, why do we need a scoreboard/ Map button on the keypad? The map can be/is useful for tracking vehicles. the score board... not so much. Purifier. First Class.

BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1815	Posted - 2015.05.10 07:14:00 - [21] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Starlight Burner wrote: I say remove the scoreboard / Map bindkey from the 'Up arrowkey / Down arrowkey' and replace that with a 'Teamsay Push To Talk' button. If players do not wish to listen to Team Chat, they can go in options and turn it of. Seriously, why do we need a scoreboard/ Map button on the keypad? The map can be/is useful for tracking vehicles. the score board... not so much. Eh.... No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 683	Posted - 2015.05.10 18:22:00 - [22] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too "In the Moment or Blinded by raging". Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing. My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion. Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him. In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond. While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict no one would' bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes. But if it was on and you could see it without having to press select, would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist. Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players. The chat box size could be as long and wide as you make it on options. Ideas, what do you think? Best solution would be to put dust on the PC so everyone is using a hardware keyboard instead of a controller + software keyboard to type things out. Nobody is going to use the chat to say something if the information is half a minute old or more by the time they are done typing it.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1815	Posted - 2015.05.10 18:28:00 - [23] - Quote 1min in Dust is 5-10min. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2903	Posted - 2015.05.11 07:27:00 - [24] - Quote Go to PS4. Home at Last <3
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1819	Posted - 2015.05.11 15:36:00 - [25] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Go to PS4. Ps4 sucks No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8622	Posted - 2015.05.11 15:50:00 - [26] - Quote Encouraging team chat? Not bad. Just remember that some people abuse the oft-misunderstood free speech thing here in the states. If we get more team mic chat? Or moronic type spam? I want friendly fire enabled in all game modes. There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1819	Posted - 2015.05.11 15:58:00 - [27] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Encouraging team chat? Not bad. Just remember that some people abuse the oft-misunderstood free speech thing here in the states. If we get more team mic chat? Or moronic type spam? I want friendly fire enabled in all game modes. Agree with the friendly fire thing. Idiots love to abuse, but the Latin word for abuse- Abutor, which means to use to full potential. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1822	Posted - 2015.05.12 14:17:00 - [28] - Quote Just saying. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 465	Posted - 2015.05.12 17:17:00 - [29] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too "In the Moment or Blinded by raging". Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing. My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion. Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him. In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond. While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict no one would' bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes. But if it was on and you could see it without having to press select, would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist. Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players. The chat box size could be as long and wide as you make it on options. Ideas, what do you think? IMO if someone is not able to 'see' whats going one on battlefield, even blinking team-chat icon will not help. Beside writing takes ages with DS3. It's not professional to chat with each other during the fight. We need that proximity voice that MAG players suggest from time to time. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 202	Posted - 2015.05.12 17:24:00 - [30] - Quote I love this idea, unfortunately the coding it would take plus adding the control algorithm would be a lot of work, honestly I believe CCP should invest in doing this to help with gameplay and player communication, this would also create a positive atmosphere on players and get them to join active corps. If CCP does all this I will invest more money into this game. Commando Master

BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1822	Posted - 2015.05.12 17:33:00 - [31] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: IMO if someone is not able to 'see . Lower left or upper left side of screen. Can change size in option, up down not left right. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
DJINN Jecture Templar of the Glowing Blade 366	Posted - 2015.05.12 20:51:00 - [32] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: BLOOD Ruler wrote: This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too "In the Moment or Blinded by raging". Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing. My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion. Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him. In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond. While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict no one would' bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes. But if it was on and you could see it without having to press select, would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist. Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players. The chat box size could be as long and wide as you make it on options. Ideas, what do you think? Best solution would be to put dust on the PC so everyone is using a hardware keyboard instead of a controller + software keyboard to type things out. Nobody is going to use the chat to say something if the information is half a minute old or more by the time they are done typing it. Well then I may as well fire up TS3 eve comms seems broken most of the time. Still the idea has merit. *-ç +æ+Ä ß+¦ß¦+Gé¦ß+¡ !!!* *ß¦äß¦â-à*
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1827	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:55:00 - [33] - Quote Sorry I changed that, looks like it can only go in the upper right of the screen. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1053	Posted - 2015.05.13 12:09:00 - [34] - Quote first off... why not automatically place everyone into the team chat by default? If a squad doesnt want to be in the team chat they should have a squad settings option that makes them exempt. this way everyone ends up on comms TOGETHER by default. secondly, we need more non verbal commands. Add a player command wheel similar to the squad command wheel, that allows players to request ammo, remote repair, vehicle transport, call for back up at the players current location (similar to the rally point command), and a separate "attack" order (for squad members). These commands would allow for communication between players without mics, as well as between players that speak different languages. There should also be a tag feature for players, allowing them to tag another player similar to using a defend order except that the tag is persistent through death. This means that squads can pair up into "battle buddies" and keep track of each other, which is useful for players that dont have mics or dont speak the same language.
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1830	Posted - 2015.05.13 21:06:00 - [35] - Quote I concur Death No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
DJINN Jecture Templar of the Glowing Blade 367	Posted - 2015.05.15 05:33:00 - [36] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: first off... why not automatically place everyone into the team chat by default? If a squad doesnt want to be in the team chat they should have a squad settings option that makes them exempt. this way everyone ends up on comms TOGETHER by default. secondly, we need more non verbal commands. Add a player command wheel similar to the squad command wheel, that allows players to request ammo, remote repair, vehicle transport, call for back up at the players current location (similar to the rally point command), and a separate "attack" order (for squad members). These commands would allow for communication between players without mics, as well as between players that speak different languages. There should also be a tag feature for players, allowing them to tag another player similar to using a defend order except that the tag is persistent through death. This means that squads can pair up into "battle buddies" and keep track of each other, which is useful for players that dont have mics or dont speak the same language. As much as I "like" co-ordination and teamwork, listening to a bunch of 14yr olds act like fools or whine because they lose something doesn't really appeal to me, those I want to chat with I do, the whiners and kids I really prefer not to. I have no beef with the kids playing, but I believe we shouldn't need to have to turn off voice to be able to choose who we talk with, and that is what I would likely do if team voice were auto selected. On top of that, people who insist on playing bad music or hot micing their argument with their mom about if it is time to get off the PS3 or not really do not make me want to play but rather make me want to troll them instead. *-ç +æ+Ä ß+¦ß¦+Gé¦ß+¡ !!!* *ß¦äß¦â-à*
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1831	Posted - 2015.05.15 10:44:00 - [37] - Quote **** kids-My definition, immature individuals who can't take responsibility. No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
ABUTOR Of Bane Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.05.16 16:20:00 - [38] - Quote Not a bad idea, could get some cowards in line
BLOOD Ruler Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 1859	Posted - 2015.05.17 04:31:00 - [39] - Quote Da Bumb No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist The Purpose Of Life Is To End
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 568	Posted - 2015.05.17 10:06:00 - [40] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: This is a really good idea with it comes shooting games, usually almost no one uses team chat because their too "In the Moment or Blinded by raging". Its a fact in Dust, that nobody has time to press select and have the game turn into the map with a chat thing. My idea is like in some online games the team chat is visible , on the lower left or upper left so the player can type and see what's happening while in motion. Lets say some type of person sees an opening or a weak point, and tells a few of his mates to assist him. In a fer seconds the men in cover could see this and respond. While in Dust, when you select team chat you would be in action, distracted by the going conflict no one would' bother to do it unless they told someone their in a squad with to check every few minutes. But if it was on and you could see it without having to press select, would enable someone to stop their current interest and assist. Dust is a team shooting game, by doing this It allows better coordination and help from your team players. The chat box size could be as long and wide as you make it on options. Ideas, what do you think? Perhaps CCP could use the Rage that is generated playing dust by letting us express it to the enemy with prox chat!



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