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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.05 20:56:00 -
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Agreed, my relationship with Dust is love/hate, emphasis on the hate. The gun mechanics are the worst mechanics i have ever experienced in any fps, it's more who can hipfire like a maniac while strafing as though your on a drug cocktail of steroids and crack, than who actually has the best gun skills. The progression is just stupid as well. I get that they're trying to make it like EVE's skill progression, but with an fps, it just does not work. Imo they should of made it ALOTTtt simpler, more traditional leveling system. Instead of 1mil sp to just get one node up to level 5, they should've of made it half of that, hell maybe even more than half. Balance, is non-existent, as well. The common kissass, would say, welcome to New Eden, i say that's bs. A gun should kill you because it's a damm gun, not because it has been nerfed into oblivion. There's countless other problems with the game, that just makes it not fun, at all. I keep coming back hoping that it's changed for the better only to find that it keeps getting worse. The potential Dust has is so BIGgggg too, but ccp cannot get their **** together. Im no pc gamer, but as someone who just plain loves videogames, and likes to see when a game prospers, regardless of what console im on, I really hope Legion turns into the game Dust should of been. They need to take some notes from games like Battlefield or Destiny, both of which have awesome gun mechanics and strafe mechanics imo, on how firefights should work in games. If Legion does happen, i'd hate to hear that skill is based off of who can move side to side the quickest and most times. Balance is key as well.
HMG FTW!!!!!!!
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.05 21:15:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Agreed, my relationship with Dust is love/hate, emphasis on the hate. The gun mechanics are the worst mechanics i have ever experienced in any fps, it's more who can hipfire like a maniac while strafing as though your on a drug cocktail of steroids and crack, than who actually has the best gun skills. The progression is just stupid as well. I get that they're trying to make it like EVE's skill progression, but with an fps, it just does not work. Imo they should of made it ALOTTtt simpler, more traditional leveling system. Instead of 1mil sp to just get one node up to level 5, they should've of made it half of that, hell maybe even more than half. Balance, is non-existent, as well. The common kissass, would say, welcome to New Eden, i say that's bs. A gun should kill you because it's a damm gun, not because it has been nerfed into oblivion. There's countless other problems with the game, that just makes it not fun, at all. I keep coming back hoping that it's changed for the better only to find that it keeps getting worse. The potential Dust has is so BIGgggg too, but ccp cannot get their **** together. Im no pc gamer, but as someone who just plain loves videogames, and likes to see when a game prospers, regardless of what console im on, I really hope Legion turns into the game Dust should of been. They need to take some notes from games like Battlefield or Destiny, both of which have awesome gun mechanics and strafe mechanics imo, on how firefights should work in games. If Legion does happen, i'd hate to hear that skill is based off of who can move side to side the quickest and most times. Balance is key as well. If you're saying that Dust should be a hybrid oh Battlefield and Destiny with a extremely basic skill system, This isn't the game for you really. Dust is supposed to be a tactical shooter, which means movements are supposed to be tactical, strategic, and planned out, not silly jumping everywhere or kills you with snipers in CQ easily whilst being able to unlock everything within a month.
Wait, whattt?!?!?!? Is Dust not filled with people who "silly jump everwhere" already? Speaking of snipers, im not saying they should be CQ, but they're pretty useless too. An by tactical shooter, i highly doubt they meant, strafe from left to right like if your taking bathsalts. Dust is lacking on strategy too, it's about who can get to the top of some building with their Airship first and not who can actually come up with a smart strategy. Lets not even get into protostomping.
Just doing merc stuff
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.06 00:30:00 -
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Great ideas, now if only ccp took notice....
Just doing merc stuff
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.06 12:49:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Agreed, my relationship with Dust is love/hate, emphasis on the hate. The gun mechanics are the worst mechanics i have ever experienced in any fps, it's more who can hipfire like a maniac while strafing as though your on a drug cocktail of steroids and crack, than who actually has the best gun skills. The progression is just stupid as well. I get that they're trying to make it like EVE's skill progression, but with an fps, it just does not work. Imo they should of made it ALOTTtt simpler, more traditional leveling system. Instead of 1mil sp to just get one node up to level 5, they should've of made it half of that, hell maybe even more than half. Balance, is non-existent, as well. The common kissass, would say, welcome to New Eden, i say that's bs. A gun should kill you because it's a damm gun, not because it has been nerfed into oblivion. There's countless other problems with the game, that just makes it not fun, at all. I keep coming back hoping that it's changed for the better only to find that it keeps getting worse. The potential Dust has is so BIGgggg too, but ccp cannot get their **** together. Im no pc gamer, but as someone who just plain loves videogames, and likes to see when a game prospers, regardless of what console im on, I really hope Legion turns into the game Dust should of been. They need to take some notes from games like Battlefield or Destiny, both of which have awesome gun mechanics and strafe mechanics imo, on how firefights should work in games. If Legion does happen, i'd hate to hear that skill is based off of who can move side to side the quickest and most times. Balance is key as well. If you're saying that Dust should be a hybrid oh Battlefield and Destiny with a extremely basic skill system, This isn't the game for you really. Dust is supposed to be a tactical shooter, which means movements are supposed to be tactical, strategic, and planned out, not silly jumping everywhere or kills you with snipers in CQ easily whilst being able to unlock everything within a month. Wait, whattt?!?!?!? Is Dust not filled with people who "silly jump everwhere" already? Speaking of snipers, im not saying they should be CQ, but they're pretty useless too. An by tactical shooter, i highly doubt they meant, strafe from left to right like if your taking bathsalts. Dust is lacking on strategy too, it's about who can get to the top of some building with their Airship first and not who can actually come up with a smart strategy. Lets not even get into protostomping. A lot of people would argue that shouldn't really be in the game, and it's nowhere near as bad as Destiny's. Also you pointed out two games in which has such silliness as using snipers in CQ. strafe is a work in progress, and getting higher ground is a smart (if you think it isn't, then you've never looked at battle strategies of anything, ever), as well as working together in a tight, cohesive group being a smart idea. If you think you should be able to do such silliness as carry teams solo, then this isn't the game for you.
A lot would argue that shouldn't be in the game, yet there is A LOT who do it, there isn't one scout who doesn't bunny hop. An What do you mean it's not as bad as Destiny's, there is no such thing as cracked out bunny hopping matrix strafing in Destiny, have you not played the game. When talking about high ground strat, im not saying it isn't a smart strategy, im saying it's one of the ONLY strategies in this 'tactical' shoot. Also i never said anything about having the ability to carry a team solo, not once did I imply it. Let me make this clear, cause I don't think you get what I mean. I'm not saying Dust 514 should be dumbed down, im saying it's gun mechanics are straight up horrible, I feel like a game as old as Quake probably has better shooting mechanics than Dust, for this reason CCP should take notes on how guns work in games, from like you know, people who makes fps games for a living (Dice, Bungie).
Just doing merc stuff
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.05.06 14:17:00 -
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Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Adan Montano Pietsch wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:[quote=Adan Montano Pietsch]Agreed, my relationship with Dust is love/hate, emphasis on the hate. The gun mechanics are the worst mechanics i have ever experienced in any fps, it's more who can hipfire like a maniac while strafing as though your on a drug cocktail of steroids and crack, than who actually has the best gun skills. The progression is just stupid as well. I get that they're trying to make it like EVE's skill progression, but with an fps, it just does not work. Imo they should of made it ALOTTtt simpler, more traditional leveling system. Instead of 1mil sp to just get one node up to level 5, they should've of made it half of that, hell maybe even more than half. Balance, is non-existent, as well. The common kissass, would say, welcome to New Eden, i say that's bs. A gun should kill you because it's a damm gun, not because it has been nerfed into oblivion. There's countless other problems with the game, that just makes it not fun, at all. I keep coming back hoping that it's changed for the better only to find that it keeps getting worse. The potential Dust has is so BIGgggg too, but ccp cannot get their **** together. Im no pc gamer, but as someone who just plain loves videogames, and likes to see when a game prospers, regardless of what console im on, I really hope Legion turns into the game Dust should of been. They need to take some notes from games like Battlefield or Destiny, both of which have awesome gun mechanics and strafe mechanics imo, on how firefights should work in games. If Legion does happen, i'd hate to hear that skill is based off of who can move side to side the quickest and most times. Balance is key as well. If you're saying that Dust should be a hybrid oh Battlefield and Destiny with a extremely basic skill system, This isn't the game for you really. Dust is supposed to be a tactical shooter, which means movements are supposed to be tactical, strategic, and planned out, not silly jumping everywhere or kills you with snipers in CQ easily whilst being able to unlock everything within a month. Wait, whattt?!?!?!? Is Dust not filled with people who "silly jump everwhere" already? Speaking of snipers, im not saying they should be CQ, but they're pretty useless too. An by tactical shooter, i highly doubt they meant, strafe from left to right like if your taking bathsalts. Dust is lacking on strategy too, it's about who can get to the top of some building with their Airship first and not who can actually come up with a smart strategy. Lets not even get into protostomping. A lot of people would argue that shouldn't really be in the game, and it's nowhere near as bad as Destiny's. Also you pointed out two games in which has such silliness as using snipers in CQ. strafe is a work in progress, and getting higher ground is a smart (if you think it isn't, then you've never looked at battle strategies of anything, ever), as well as working together in a tight, cohesive group being a smart idea. If you think you should be able to do such silliness as carry teams solo, then this isn't the game for you.
A lot would argue that shouldn't be in the game, yet there is A LOT who do it, there isn't one scout who doesn't bunny hop. An What do you mean it's not as bad as Destiny's, there is no such thing as cracked out bunny hopping matrix strafing in Destiny, have you not played the game. When talking about high ground strat, im not saying it isn't a smart strategy, im saying it's one of the ONLY strategies in this 'tactical' shoot. Also i never said anything about having the ability to carry a team solo, not once did I imply it. Let me make this clear, cause I don't think you get what I mean. I'm not saying Dust 514 should be dumbed down, im saying it's gun mechanics are straight up horrible, I feel like a game as old as Quake probably has better shooting mechanics than Dust, for this reason CCP should take notes on how guns work in games, from like you know, people who makes fps games for a living (Dice, Bungie).
Actually, let me make one more thing clear. My fault on this one. Imo, Dust 514 only needs dumbing down in one thing, skill progression. The rest needs to either be improved(Greatly), or completely scrapped and redone. For example, one of the big problems, gun mechanics.
Unrelated to my discussion with Godinkiller, and more related to the post. I believe, they should scrap the free to play model in Legion, put a retail price of maybe $30 us dollars, increase sp from battles or lower sp amount for skills, scrap daily login bonus for sp, but increase daily login for AUR. However, they should still make it tempting to buy AUR to get BPO's/boosters/etc. faster.
Just doing merc stuff
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2015.05.06 17:46:00 -
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Ooops lol didn't even notice, was trying to edit my response
Just doing merc stuff
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