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[Veteran_SuperMido]
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Posted - 2012.06.05 16:33:00 -
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About 2 months ago I asked CCP_Praetorian about the Fighters, and if they still exist, and whether or not we'll have them at launch. He said "they will not be at launch. But we still have them (they are awesome) and they will be added later."
After seeing the E3 trailer yesterday, I think the Fighters are all what Dust 514 needs now. Imagine them in that trailer, and how much they would affect the gameplay  |
[Veteran_Nova Knife]
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Posted - 2012.06.05 17:38:00 -
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No.
"Because they are AWESOME" is never a valid reason to add something to the game. Least of all sooner than intended. The last thing I want to see in my dust is a bunch of dudes just messing around in fighters doing absolutely nothing, like you see in battlefield 3.
I don't want to see these until I can play with a team of people of my choosing, so I know if someone is gonna be in a fighter he's at least going to be useful. No fighters in the beta. |
[Veteran_Waruiko DUST]
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:03:00 -
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They might requite them to be provided by a carrier in orbit like the orbital strike. That would restrict their use to corp matches so I would approve of such a restriction. |
[Veteran_Kushmir]
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Posted - 2012.06.05 22:50:00 -
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huh? since when did "no, because a stupid blue dot might do something dumb" become the standard?
we wouldnt have anything (especially Friendly Fire) if that was the case. nothing should depend on randoms...
because nothing CAN.
add them when they're ready. play with corpmates--problem solved. |
[Veteran_Orion-ji Tor]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 02:41:00 -
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TBH DUST has all the features it needs atm. The devs just need to work out the core mechanics bugs and performance & gameplay issues before they break the game with poorly thought out features.
.....for some reason the Unified Inventory in Eve comes to mind..... |
[Veteran_Noc Tempre]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:03:00 -
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I must be the only person who liked the new inventory... |
[Veteran_Rogan Kosh]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 03:06:00 -
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Fixing the bugs, performance issues, crashes, horrible LAV controls, exploits, and weapon balance should take priority over adding new stuff in the game right now. Sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot down your fighter idea. I want to fly a fast mover as much as you do, but for the greater good, I'm going to have to launch a SAM at it. |
[Veteran_Orin Fenris]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 11:19:00 -
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Rogan Kosh wrote:Fixing the bugs, performance issues, crashes, horrible LAV controls, exploits, and weapon balance should take priority over adding new stuff in the game right now. Sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot down your fighter idea. I want to fly a fast mover as much as you do, but for the greater good, I'm going to have to launch a SAM at it.
Well, I am in agreement with you that things such as fighters (or even more vehicles in general) should be worked on after the game is actually complete and stable, and ready for launch.
As far as "new" features, the only things I think they need to add before launch (to provide testing) is to complete the Logi skill/item section, and group mechanics. We need to be able to test out these things to make sure they are balanced.
I'm sure there are a few other things that are currently missing from this build that will have to be tested. but fighters and other vehicles don't seem to be that important.
In fact, IMO the fewer manned flying machines (or even vehicles in general) in DUST, the better. Vehicles totally ruined BF3 for me, because thats all it became was a giant demolition derby. if you don't have a vehicle in BF3, you're pretty much screwed.
I don't want to see Dust suffer the same fate. |
[Veteran_Bobs Urunkle]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 13:10:00 -
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Kush, I think you slightly missed Nova's point. At present, during testing you can't choose who you fight along side of. Once this changes then by all means lets have fighters if they are required. But lets not turn the testing into a BF3 bluedot-fighterjock heaven until the core issues are addressed and some of the more important mechanics are intergrated such as corp groups and battles.
Like Orin, I didn't much care for the excessive vehicle dependancy of BF3. But at least dust requires more than camping next to a flag in a tank to achieve an objective - so there's hope for us ground apes no matter how many vehicles are deployed! |
[Veteran_Bossman Gordz]
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Posted - 2012.06.06 13:36:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:About 2 months ago I asked CCP_Praetorian about the Fighters, and if they still exist, and whether or not we'll have them at launch. He said "they will not be at launch. But we still have them (they are awesome) and they will be added later." After seeing the E3 trailer yesterday, I think the Fighters are all what Dust 514 needs now. Imagine them in that trailer, and how much they would affect the gameplay
I say yes to this it would make the game more interesting |
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[Veteran_SuperMido]
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Posted - 2012.06.07 02:26:00 -
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Nova Knife wrote:No.
"Because they are AWESOME" is never a valid reason to add something to the game. Least of all sooner than intended. The last thing I want to see in my dust is a bunch of dudes just messing around in fighters doing absolutely nothing, like you see in battlefield 3.
I don't want to see these until I can play with a team of people of my choosing, so I know if someone is gonna be in a fighter he's at least going to be useful. No fighters in the beta.
Being awesome IS a totally valid reason to add something to the game. Why are you playing Dust 514?? Because its awesome, this is a game people, FUN comes as one of the most important factors.
As for people missing around in Fighters, that all depends on how they're built. In BF3 the Jets are ******* worthless at everything, even dogfighting. They take forever to lock-on, and are worthless against ground targets.
But supposedly thats NOT going to be the case with the Fighters in Dust 514 considering they're VTOL that are capable of hovering, flying at low altitudes, and speeds. They would basically be a chopper/jet combo, just like the ones you see in BF2142, Planetside 2, Crysis Wars, etc. And this kind of vehicle is a very big threat to ground targets such as Tanks, LAVs, and even infantry. So people who pilot those will actually be helping you rather than just flying like idiots. But that all goes back to how they're designed, if done right, they'll be AWESOME, in terms of FUN, and gameplay purposes.
Also, in the Beta, they should be added for testing purposes, you don't want those things to be released to the public in the full game and being un-balanced, or not functioning right.
EDIT: I also never asked for them to be added now, or even in the next patch. I think they should be added with the addition of Conquest, where we have the bigger maps. |
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