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William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 15:19:00 - [1] - Quote Why do they make a sound? When they are charging and when they are swung. It has to be the most annoying thing sneaking up on someone only to find out they wear surround sound headphones and can hear the knife charge. Even though backpeddle speed was nerfed/fixed they simple jump back, which isn't reduced in speed. I don't think making knives silent would make them OP in any way.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1370	Posted - 2015.05.04 15:22:00 - [2] - Quote plasma knife, it has to get it's heat build up from somewhere.. read the description, and you will see why.. read standard nova knife
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1370	Posted - 2015.05.04 15:23:00 - [3] - Quote If you want a plain knife that does 1/8th the dmg, i'm all for it being silent :)
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 15:42:00 - [4] - Quote and charging plasma makes sound? This is a science fiction, non of the weapons need to make auditable sound, they do because of design and emersion. Even when you don't charge them the swinging makes noise, I think that should be removed, you do not.
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6372	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:05:00 - [5] - Quote Correction: I don't use headphones, yet I can still hear you attempting to sneak up on me. Don't charge until you're just about on top of someone, because worst cast scenario, you hit them without a full charge and still do a good deal of damage. Some details can be ignored
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:11:00 - [6] - Quote Not really a thread asking how to use knives, more of a ***** fest of why do they even make noise and who else thinks this way? I have no need for advice, I guess I am curious as to why use knives when the shotty is a much better alpha weapon. I want to make the nova knife more viable than just a novelty weapon or a get them off the hack weapon. The noise factor is confusing to me, that is all. Could someone explain why when you swing a non charged swipe it makes noise? Or mechanically speaking if it didn't why that would be OP?
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 7299	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:12:00 - [7] - Quote Wouldn't matter. I can hear footsteps as well.
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:16:00 - [8] - Quote Do you hear friendly footsteps? If so, then you must be spinning in circles a lot, and on that point, perhaps that is another change. Scouts don't make noise, Heavys make a lot. That might be far too much coding, but it is a thought.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1372	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:22:00 - [9] - Quote heated plasma edge - formed bu THERMIC IGNITER... all that needs to be said. it kills like a mofo, quit crying
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:26:00 - [10] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: heated plasma edge - formed bu THERMIC IGNITER... all that needs to be said. it kills like a mofo, quit crying So because it is an Alpha weapon it needs to make noise? That logic is flawed because then when you take them out they should make noise, or whenever you move they should make noise, or jump. Also, in my experience a plasma edge with a thermic igniter does not make any noise. So if you want to go by real life examples, you are wrong.

Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1372	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:30:00 - [11] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: heated plasma edge - formed bu THERMIC IGNITER... all that needs to be said. it kills like a mofo, quit crying So because it is an Alpha weapon it needs to make noise? That logic is flawed because then when you take them out they should make noise, or whenever you move they should make noise, or jump. Also, in my experience a plasma edge with a thermic igniter does not make any noise. So if you want to go by real life examples, you are wrong. why should they make noise when u move after taking out, it's heated when you go for the kill? you have personal experience with plasma blades heated by thermic igniter.... interesting... well I don't , but if I had to guess.. it would be something like the click of a gas grill giniter, or the dryer igniter , or a light bulb even.,fk if I know.. but it would make a sound i'm sure
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:45:00 - [12] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: William HBonney wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: heated plasma edge - formed bu THERMIC IGNITER... all that needs to be said. it kills like a mofo, quit crying So because it is an Alpha weapon it needs to make noise? That logic is flawed because then when you take them out they should make noise, or whenever you move they should make noise, or jump. Also, in my experience a plasma edge with a thermic igniter does not make any noise. So if you want to go by real life examples, you are wrong. why should they make noise when u move after taking out, it's heated when you go for the kill? you have personal experience with plasma blades heated by thermic igniter.... interesting... well I don't , but if I had to guess.. it would be something like the click of a gas grill giniter, or the dryer igniter , or a light bulb even.,fk if I know.. but it would make a sound i'm sure That was my point....if they made no noise it would make no difference with the description because no one has any experience with it at all, so using said description as justification is not logical. I could see swinging the knife for killing to be different than swinging the knife while running. Mechanically most FPS have knife kills as OHK and silent, because if you let someone sneak up behind you and touch you, you should die. Not sure why there is a want for a departure from that in this game.
Kayla Michael Tactical Logistics and Cargo 111	Posted - 2015.05.04 16:52:00 - [13] - Quote I hope CCP releases new knifes. Factional parity was brought up a lot of times. I don't think making them silent is overpowered either, I die anyways by Nova Knifers with or without the noise. I eat drahp uplink, me thinks this isn't a cookie. `~`
William HBonney Ancient Exiles. 430	Posted - 2015.05.04 17:22:00 - [14] - Quote Every dies by everything, I would be interested to know statistically how much they are used compared to the other weapons, perhaps there are enough suicide knifers out there. They have the actual numbers and appear to make changes based off those numbers, not sure if these threads actually do much in the way of change.
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6372	Posted - 2015.05.04 18:12:00 - [15] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Not really a thread asking how to use knives, more of a ***** fest of why do they even make noise and who else thinks this way? I have no need for advice, I guess I am curious as to why use knives when the shotty is a much better alpha weapon. I want to make the nova knife more viable than just a novelty weapon or a get them off the hack weapon. The noise factor is confusing to me, that is all. Could someone explain why when you swing a non charged swipe it makes noise? Or mechanically speaking if it didn't why that would be OP? I think there are 2 main possibilities here: 1. There isn't a sound effect for somebody dying, so CCP wanted players who listen to their surroundings to get a little hint that their buddy just dropped. 2. (probably more likely) CCP didn't want to bother playing with code to make a distinction between the sound of a charged slash and an uncharged slash. After all, this is the same case with every other weapon with a charge option: they have the same "shot" sound effect whether or not they're charged. Some details can be ignored
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11579	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:07:00 - [16] - Quote Did you know that space has sound? Just ask the Eve Online players. But anyways, I never had a problem with the noise since I always remember to ONLY charge the knives when I am right on top of someone. And by 'right on top' I mean jumping them like a hungry Velociraptor. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Ralden Caster Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 218	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:13:00 - [17] - Quote Why don't we make them hyper-realistic and scorch off your own hands as well? "I am frequently misquoted." -Aeon Amadi Welcome to my TIME MACHINE!
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9913	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:32:00 - [18] - Quote My problem is that we are now between a rock in a hard place. Before, you could charge them just shy of what might be listening range, and walk up to knife. Now with EWAR circles, if you do that, they will highly likely spot you on tacnet with enough time to turn around and dispatch you, especially since Assault speeds are so high that if they are moving forward they take forever to catch up to. Then you combine that with the fact they are very likely stacking enough HP that a regular swipe won't cut it, so sprinting up to them and using regular swipes will likely get you killed too. Now more than ever, it is very important stick a Myo on and learn to Raptor Jump, though it is very risky as well. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1373	Posted - 2015.05.04 19:47:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Did you know that space has sound? Just ask the Eve Online players. But anyways, I never had a problem with the noise since I always remember to ONLY charge the knives when I am right on top of someone. And by 'right on top' I mean jumping them like a hungry Velociraptor. PS: A pair of charged Nothi's Nova Knives can deal a total of 960 HP damage and that is before suit bonus, Nova Knife Proficiency bonus, and sidearm damage mods are applied. The Nothi's also enable you to have slightly faster movement speed (not to be confused with sprinting) when you charge them up. They also have faster charge time. But at 400k to 500k a piece, they get pricey. lol, that's exactly what I feel like when I die to them.. i'm trying to escape Jurrasic Park with a velociraptor on my ass..doesn't usually end well for me
BLOOD Ruler VOLKOV INDUSTRIES 1771	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:20:00 - [20] - Quote Eh There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.

LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3866	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:29:00 - [21] - Quote William HBonney wrote: Do you hear friendly footsteps? If so, then you must be spinning in circles a lot No, not really. If there are blues on tacnet, then I don't turn. If I heard a pitter patter and there ain't no blues, I'm checking my 6. I find myself stopping to listen without any of my footsteps to see if I really am alone. I like to pride myself in situational listening. It's saved me many a time. But its just about as reliable as the tacnet. Sometimes, some people make no noise at all or I hear two strides and their kinkatted shotties have already entered the killzone. One thing that irks me the most is when the sound gets glitches and I can't hear squat. I absolutely freak out then. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3440	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:49:00 - [22] - Quote I see no need to do anything further to the Nova Knives. If someone is wearing surround sound headphones, they'll be able to have advantages beyond just 'hearing the knives charge'. They'll be able to hear your footsteps as well. Should we nerf footstep sounds? Seriously, I can't see how muffling the Nova Knives will make any sort of difference whatsoever. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 18/30 exclusively Minja
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3440	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:50:00 - [23] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: William HBonney wrote: Do you hear friendly footsteps? If so, then you must be spinning in circles a lot One thing that irks me the most is when the sound gets glitches and I can't hear squat. I absolutely freak out then I'm always listening to music when I play, so I never hear anything anyway. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 18/30 exclusively Minja
psyanyde 84	Posted - 2015.05.04 21:04:00 - [24] - Quote The only thing that would happen if sound was removed from the charge... Is the massive amount of crying to get NK's nerfed 'I'm getting OHK'd by a weapon that makes no noise, CCP pls fix!' etc, etc And then you'd wind up with something you wouldn't even use to spread softened butter on warm toast.


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