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Ares 514
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Posted - 2015.05.04 00:19:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Constantly there are matches with things like 6v15, 8v14, 1v10, etc.
Since the matchmaking update, I don't think I've had a single match that was a full 16v16. Or one that was reasonably balanced, for that matter - naturally, as a result of there typically being an overwhelming numbers disparity, matches aren't balanced.
What is going on?
This isn't an isolated problem. This is consistently happening, match after match. Why? I've heard that it's because people leave one side, but that isn't the case either - I've had a number of matches that start horrendously imbalanced and finish so. I've even had a match where it added players to the team with more players rather than the one struggling for numbers. If players leaving is really a problem, can't we add some back?
It's not even just the team balancing, really. There seem to be countless problems with the matchmaker. Today one of my squadmates was stuck on an eternal loading screen and the battle told the rest of the squad that he'd 'left', despite the match being nowhere near full and him being on comms with us. Scotty errors happen frequently. It's even taking longer to find matches, despite the glaring issues with the matchmaker.
And if something does go wrong, there's no way to correct it. You can no longer see who's in your squad via the chat menu, and can't look at any players in chat channels once you're in a match. You can't invite people to squad. How are PC teams expected to form under these circumstances? One DC and you're a man down and you can't correct it, even if you have several minutes.
Why are these matches so unbalanced? What is going on? Because of what he said Ripley Riley wrote:saxonmish wrote:... since this matchmaking thing. its usually 7 v 12
anyone know how it works? Either players are leaving and not getting replaced OR your mu score is high enough where in order to balance the match the matchmaker is pitting you against more players. To hyper simplify it... Player | Mu A | 5 B | 5 C | 5 D | 5 E | 5 Total: 25 Now for the other team... A | 7 B | 8 C | 5 D | 5 Total: 25 Team 1 and 2's mu score totals are 25, but team 1 has 5 players while team 2 has 4 players. The match is balanced though the teams aren't even.
Even if that's the case, which I doubt, screw mu score and always make sure it's 16 vs 16. I personally almost find this game unplayable some days and have heard a ton of complaints from corp members and other players.
Overlord of Broman
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:14:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:It's strange, I have checked the player list for my matches, and it's usually two full teams (or very close).
All games in general are very evenly matched as well, so for me at least it seems to work.
Of course there are some odd cases, but of my 10+ games yesterday I had like 1-2 really bad where half the team left, resulting in a stomp.
Besides, one of the biggest complaints players had prior to the matchmaking update was to enter battles which was effectivly over. If the team should be "refilled" during the game for people leaving, the newly added people will complain about just that.
Personally I think the new matchmaking is working apart from one thing: The human factor (= people leaving)
It's really weird that some players seem to think it's working. I can only question are you playing Skirmish? That seems to be the only game mode working correctly to me and others i play with.
Overlord of Broman
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:39:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Regis Blackbird wrote:It's strange, I have checked the player list for my matches, and it's usually two full teams (or very close).
All games in general are very evenly matched as well, so for me at least it seems to work.
Of course there are some odd cases, but of my 10+ games yesterday I had like 1-2 really bad where half the team left, resulting in a stomp.
Besides, one of the biggest complaints players had prior to the matchmaking update was to enter battles which was effectivly over. If the team should be "refilled" during the game for people leaving, the newly added people will complain about just that.
Personally I think the new matchmaking is working apart from one thing: The human factor (= people leaving)
It's really weird that some players seem to think it's working. I can only question are you playing Skirmish? That seems to be the only game mode working correctly to me and others i play with. I usually select all queues when I play solo, since I don't have a preference. Yesterday I got a good mix of Acquisition, Skirmish, Domination and even one Ambush (if I remember correctly). Of the two games that were loopsided yesterday, it was weird. Initially we had full 16vs16 and quite intensive fights (we probably had the advantage, but they gave us real resistance). Then it just stopped... I checked again and the other team only had three players left. Either we had a mass disconnect, or like two full squads left the match. Spent the rest of the game driving my LAV out the redline (to see how far I got). Note to self: when deliberately suiciding, equip a BPO rather than your Proto Logi 
So something is really weird if you can get 16vs16 domination's. I stopped playing the game mode (my favourite) since I can't get even player count in matches and never full ones. Maybe it's play time or maybe some people have weird mu stuff going on, but if CCP looks at my stats for non skirmish battles it's a sad site to see.
Overlord of Broman
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Ares 514
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:The two things that seem to take my head out of the game are Lag and Uneven Teams, when this happens it ensures I will be done playing Dust faster than expected. You're not the only one.
It's weird, the lag for me since this build is out is worse. Last night i had to leave one battle since it was a damn slide show a couple minutes in. Most of my battles last night had some to really bad lag. Seems like some corps (EU, Spanish speaking) cause me to lag to all hell where as in the past there would only be a bit of lag here and there if there were a bunch in the battle.
Overlord of Broman
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