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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 12:32:00 -
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Have a longer optimal range than the Assault Scrambler Rifle?
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Elpedo Hughes
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Posted - 2015.05.03 13:01:00 -
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This belongs in general discussions so congratulations on learning the forum rules.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 13:35:00 -
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Elpedo Hughes wrote:This belongs in general discussions so congratulations on learning the forum rules.
Can we be friends now? xxx
Would help if you actually read that post instead of being willfully ignorant.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.05.03 13:38:00 -
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Because the Combat Rifle is perfectly balanced herp derp.
I get tired of seeing that.
The combat rifle needed to be a hit and run weapon with medium and close range capabilities. Not this crap. It makes me even angrier knowing that it has longer optimal now if you're findings are correct.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 13:41:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Because the Combat Rifle is perfectly balanced herp derp.
I get tired of seeing that.
The combat rifle needed to be a hit and run weapon with medium and close range capabilities. Not this crap. It makes me even angrier knowing that it has longer optimal now if you're findings are correct.
http://i.imgur.com/6olEWwF.png
That answer your question?
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Francois Sanchez
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Posted - 2015.05.03 14:16:00 -
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It doesn't matter, the spread is so large half your bullets miss at that range, it has roughly the DPS of the AR in practice |
Francois Sanchez
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Posted - 2015.05.03 14:21:00 -
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Btw your graph is not up to date anymore, the ASCR curve is much higher now |
Cheydinhal Guard
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:07:00 -
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Does it really? And if it does, does it even matter? It's not like the ASCR is in need of any buffs, nor the ACR any nerfs.
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:08:00 -
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Oh, and you can also get 100% accuracy with it at 80 meters with increased dps if you know the trick
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:http://i.imgur.com/6olEWwF.png
That answer your question?
Yes Aeon Amadi, CR having longer range than ASCR? I don't get it either.
What's more, look at the left, that is DPS, correct?
So what we are looking at is the difference between all these weapons within optimal is ~25-50 dps?
That amounts to what, one or two rounds of ammo? A millisecond of damage?
No wonder why AR is still the weakest rifle. Within its optimal it has only a ~3 round advantage over the weakest variant, which is trivial. Then, at 5m outside its optimal, it becomes the weakest weapon by default. 5m is what, three steps backwards? So in the span of three steps the AR goes from not really the strongest to absolutely the weakest?
Balanced?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 15:50:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Btw your graph is not up to date anymore, the ASCR curve is much higher now
That graph is 100% up to date. Just checked it again and the numbers are fine.
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Francois Sanchez
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Posted - 2015.05.03 16:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Francois Sanchez wrote:Btw your graph is not up to date anymore, the ASCR curve is much higher now That graph is 100% up to date. Just checked it again and the numbers are fine.
Nope ASCR DPS has been buffed during hotfix echo, it has the highest base DPS now. If you use protofits many aren"t up to date |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 16:10:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Francois Sanchez wrote:Btw your graph is not up to date anymore, the ASCR curve is much higher now That graph is 100% up to date. Just checked it again and the numbers are fine. Nope ASCR DPS has been buffed during hotfix echo, it has the highest base DPS now. If you use protofits many aren"t up to date
Alright well fetch me the numbers lol, I'm at work and can't do it from here.
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Francois Sanchez
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Posted - 2015.05.03 16:16:00 -
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I think the base damage of the proto ASCR is 42 HP now. So with a RoF of 706 RPM (not sure) you have a DPS of 494.
I don't know if the range has been also modified though, I can't get on my PS3 either |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 16:46:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:I think the base damage of the proto ASCR is 42 HP now. So with a RoF of 706 RPM (not sure) you have a DPS of 494.
I don't know if the range has been also modified though, I can't get on my PS3 either
Fixed: http://i.imgur.com/VisxtML.png
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.05.03 17:09:00 -
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I will never use AR again.
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2015.05.03 18:52:00 -
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From all of this we can say that AR is behind the rest.
The DPS difference between AR and other guns is not significant enough to make up the lack of range compared to other guns.
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Francois Sanchez
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Posted - 2015.05.03 20:38:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:From all of this we can say that AR is behind the rest.
The DPS difference between AR and other guns is not significant enough to make up the lack of range compared to other guns.
Personally I disagree, I find the AR really good, what the stats don't show here is the truly applied DPS which depends on plenty of other stuff such as dispersion, hipfire accuracy, kick, hit detection etc.
The ASCR recent buff is sadly making the AR looking subpar but it's still way better than the two anti-armour rifles until 50 meters, after that the ACR is barely better while the ARR and ASCR just crush it which is quite the intended situation |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.05.03 20:41:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:From all of this we can say that AR is behind the rest.
The DPS difference between AR and other guns is not significant enough to make up the lack of range compared to other guns.
Well, yeah, that's been said since Uprising 1.8 but everyone is batshit terrified to give the AR more DPS because of Closed Beta paranoia.
You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
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