DUST Search - [Petition] Skin Pricing

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Cypher Nil wrote:

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Pretty much a broken record here, but I'd be far more OK with the price if a couple skins went 50% off every week so they would be $10 normally and $5 every so often. Weekly sales on select cosmetic items are common in many F2P games.

Its basically the same request but if CCP feel that's the way to go then fine, I just done agree with cosmetic items in a game costing so much when i know exactly how much work goes into making them. not to say the asset creators are lazy but once the pipeline is setup they can pump out skins every week for very little effort

Oh I agree that $10 is too high, but sadly Marketing is the ones that set the price, and they're basically assholes.

If they're set on the $10 base price....fine, but the skins simply will not sell well if they're $10 all the time. Sales are good, it encourages a sense of urgency and causes people to want to impulse buy...it's kind of how they stick gum in the check out line at stores, because its cheap and you don't have much time to think about if you want it or not because you'll be checking out soon, so people typically just impulse buy it.

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Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.02 16:05:00 - [1] - Quote Premise is simple, Sign if you would be happy to purchase a skin or skins if the price were dropped to 5-10 euro which is in keeping with the free to play model price found in League of legends Dota 2 Team fortress 2 H1Z1 Lord of the rings online Everquest Clash of clans The List goes on. Its understandable that CCP set the price high at first (its far more difficult if you start low and increase the price. players would get mad) but the current pricing system is outrageous high. This is also to gauge the interest in skins so anyone would would NEVER purchase a skin please there is no need to sign n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6155	Posted - 2015.05.02 20:32:00 - [2] - Quote Pretty much a broken record here, but I'd be far more OK with the price if a couple skins went 50% off every week so they would be $10 normally and $5 every so often. Weekly sales on select cosmetic items are common in many F2P games. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.02 21:31:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Pretty much a broken record here, but I'd be far more OK with the price if a couple skins went 50% off every week so they would be $10 normally and $5 every so often. Weekly sales on select cosmetic items are common in many F2P games. Its basically the same request but if CCP feel that's the way to go then fine, I just done agree with cosmetic items in a game costing so much when i know exactly how much work goes into making them. not to say the asset creators are lazy but once the pipeline is setup they can pump out skins every week n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 541	Posted - 2015.05.03 01:14:00 - [4] - Quote I sign the idea of less espensive skins. To disagree with a point CCP Rattatai made earlier, I didnt buy BPO suits because of the colors, I got them because of the utility of a dropsuit I didnt have to restock ever. I disagree with the price of this petition, and think that around $2 or $3 would be better, but agree that $10 is right out the window stop being like this! Also I want the Gallente Legacy color scheme to be made available for medium and heavy suits because its too sexy to keep limited to light suits.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6165	Posted - 2015.05.03 01:21:00 - [5] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Pretty much a broken record here, but I'd be far more OK with the price if a couple skins went 50% off every week so they would be $10 normally and $5 every so often. Weekly sales on select cosmetic items are common in many F2P games. Its basically the same request but if CCP feel that's the way to go then fine, I just done agree with cosmetic items in a game costing so much when i know exactly how much work goes into making them. not to say the asset creators are lazy but once the pipeline is setup they can pump out skins every week for very little effort Oh I agree that $10 is too high, but sadly Marketing is the ones that set the price, and they're basically assholes. If they're set on the $10 base price....fine, but the skins simply will not sell well if they're $10 all the time. Sales are good, it encourages a sense of urgency and causes people to want to impulse buy...it's kind of how they stick gum in the check out line at stores, because its cheap and you don't have much time to think about if you want it or not because you'll be checking out soon, so people typically just impulse buy it. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.03 01:21:00 - [6] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I sign the idea of less espensive skins. To disagree with a point CCP Rattatai made earlier, I didnt buy BPO suits because of the colors, I got them because of the utility of a dropsuit I didnt have to restock ever. I disagree with the price of this petition, and think that around $2 or $3 would be better, but agree that $10 is right out the window stop being like this! Also I want the Gallente Legacy color scheme to be made available for medium and heavy suits because its too sexy to keep limited to light suits. I actually dont see why certain skins are locked based on suit size. why can't they just create a single skin that can be applied to all suits. that would guarantee everyone who's who's bought aur would buy at least one skins and as more come out players would buy what they find appealing. wish CCP would release if the skins are even selling n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.03 01:36:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Cypher Nil wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Pretty much a broken record here, but I'd be far more OK with the price if a couple skins went 50% off every week so they would be $10 normally and $5 every so often. Weekly sales on select cosmetic items are common in many F2P games. Its basically the same request but if CCP feel that's the way to go then fine, I just done agree with cosmetic items in a game costing so much when i know exactly how much work goes into making them. not to say the asset creators are lazy but once the pipeline is setup they can pump out skins every week for very little effort Oh I agree that $10 is too high, but sadly Marketing is the ones that set the price, and they're basically assholes. If they're set on the $10 base price....fine, but the skins simply will not sell well if they're $10 all the time. Sales are good, it encourages a sense of urgency and causes people to want to impulse buy...it's kind of how they stick gum in the check out line at stores, because its cheap and you don't have much time to think about if you want it or not because you'll be checking out soon, so people typically just impulse buy it. agreed, marketing officials do seem to make these mistakes. Did you know that a team of expert marketers were asked to evaluate RIOT's marketing approach to their free to play model for League of legends. The experts all agreed that in free to play games only 25% of the players buy content.the rest of the players are freeloaders playing the game for free. for a free to play model to work the prices must be set low enough to encourage this 25% to buy content. this insures the game can be profitable. any higher you discourage the small amount of players willing to spend money, any lower and you wont be profitable. The experts could not understand how RIOT has stayed profitable due to their content being priced so low. League of legends sells its content at very cheap rates and has 75% of its player base spend money as a result. its one of the most successful free to play games due to ignoring the normal trends of buissness and setting its own n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6165	Posted - 2015.05.03 01:52:00 - [8] - Quote Totally agree. It's similar to Little Big Planet who sold many items for under $5, many of which were $1. I spent more money on that game than I normally would, simply because I never thought twice about $1 purchases and they added up quickly, but overall I was more satisfied because I felt like I got a lot of content for a great price. Dust on the other hand tends to price things much higher and I am often far more reluctant to spend money on it simply because of the higher price. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1164	Posted - 2015.05.03 04:40:00 - [9] - Quote The way I see it. We've been given more free content in this game than a BF4 player does for buying premium. Bottom line is, if you want this game to be successful then spend money it. Whether that it be a SKIN, a BPO, or a merc back or whatever. Help this game succeed and you'll continue to get FREE content for as long as it exists. That's what you're buying for $10. Not just a SKIN Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
Foehammerr Dead Man's Game RUST415 182	Posted - 2015.05.03 05:48:00 - [10] - Quote Signed. I bought $20 worth of aurum and wanted to buy both the Duvolle skin and Gallente legacy skin, but I'm 600 short on the legacy skin because the manufacturer skin is so expensive. I don't understand why they cost more. *De Opresso Liber* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23695	Posted - 2015.05.03 13:20:00 - [11] - Quote Ah, DUST monetisation. Terrible since time immemorial. 4 years ago... Quote about DUST from an internal CCP PDF: "As you probably know, DUST will operate under a virtual goods sales model. To offset the cost of freeloading spectators DUST will have a nominal cover charge, one we believe is highly attractive for an AAA F2P game. After the cover charge you can play for free, but there are certain things that are only available for a currency that derives from real money." lol F2P players are freeloading spectators Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.03 15:13:00 - [12] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Totally agree. It's similar to Little Big Planet who sold many items for under $5, many of which were $1. I spent more money on that game than I normally would, simply because I never thought twice about $1 purchases and they added up quickly, but overall I was more satisfied because I felt like I got a lot of content for a great price. Dust on the other hand tends to price things much higher and I am often far more reluctant to spend money on it simply because of the higher price. exactly how I and i'm sure many others feel. Why are they discouraging many players buying content in the hopes that a small few purchase the big pricetag? the whole reason games company's can make a profit is by creating digital content that can be mass copied and distributed to a massive audience and selling it at a low price. car company's cant do that, no other form of industry can do that. 2K Games EVOLVE has been a massive flop this year due to the ludacris price tag on content. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.03 15:17:00 - [13] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: The way I see it. We've been given more free content in this game than a BF4 player does for buying premium. Bottom line is, if you want this game to be successful then spend money it. Whether that it be a SKIN, a BPO, or a merc back or whatever. Help this game succeed and you'll continue to get FREE content for as long as it exists. That's what you're buying for $10. Not just a SKIN No, just no. we have not received more free content in the game then BF4. we have been given the content we were promised in the trailer for signing up to the game. despite being out of beta this game is still being treated as a undeveloped title. your also making the mistake of thinking this game is a crowed fund me project. you don't donate money to a developer to make a game successful. you play the game and buy the content because its a great game with great content. THAT is what makes a game successful. jesus where is your sense of self respect as a gamer?? n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 263	Posted - 2015.05.03 15:23:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ah, DUST monetisation. Terrible since time immemorial. 4 years ago... Quote about DUST from an internal CCP PDF: "As you probably know, DUST will operate under a virtual goods sales model. To offset the cost of freeloading spectators DUST will have a nominal cover charge, one we believe is highly attractive for an AAA F2P game. After the cover charge you can play for free, but there are certain things that are only available for a currency that derives from real money." lol F2P players are freeloading spectators But they shouldn't be treated that way. no successful F2P game (and i'm talking about the games that make millions) segregates there player base into those who pay and those who don't. A free to play title shouldn't have payers and players. the entire point is that everyone can play for free and everyone can purchase what they want from the game. THEY have control over what they pay for and get the features THEY want. The point is to attract players that find that level of content control appealing. which is everyone so long as the content has a low price tag. CCP marketing haven't a clue what there doing. which is why this game isn't considered successful just profitible n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6175	Posted - 2015.05.03 18:54:00 - [15] - Quote Cypher Nil wrote: 2K Games EVOLVE has been a massive flop this year due to the ludacris price tag on content. Oh God EVOLVE.... 12 Hunters at launch 3 Monsters at launch $60 DLC pack 4 Hunters $25 1 Monster $15 Nothing like buying a DLC set that costs 2/3rds of the original price of the game but comes with 1/3rd of the content. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 264	Posted - 2015.05.03 21:47:00 - [16] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Cypher Nil wrote: 2K Games EVOLVE has been a massive flop this year due to the ludacris price tag on content. Oh God EVOLVE.... 12 Hunters at launch 3 Monsters at launch $60 DLC pack 4 Hunters $25 1 Monster $15 Nothing like buying a DLC set that costs 2/3rds of the original price of the game but comes with 1/3rd of the content. And much like titanfall the number of players is allready staring to drop due to lack of new gameplay or game modes n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6175	Posted - 2015.05.03 21:48:00 - [17] - Quote I pretty much show up to get credit for EVOLVE events and then ignore it until the next event. I mean the game can be fun as long as you don't get boned by some of the glaring glitches/balance issues but it lacks the 'fun factor' that makes me want to sit down and play it for hours on end. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
deezy dabest 2182	Posted - 2015.05.04 04:15:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ah, DUST monetisation. Terrible since time immemorial. 4 years ago... Quote about DUST from an internal CCP PDF: "As you probably know, DUST will operate under a virtual goods sales model. To offset the cost of freeloading spectators DUST will have a nominal cover charge, one we believe is highly attractive for an AAA F2P game. After the cover charge you can play for free, but there are certain things that are only available for a currency that derives from real money." lol F2P players are freeloading spectators LOL AAA F2P game. Free loading spectators is pretty funny as well since without them to kill people no one would have had any reason to spend money on this game to keep it from obtaining WoD status. Everything in Dust is pretty much over priced. $3 for 10 random items or 40 cents for one random item is a bit crazy in my opinion but we all just keep buying so I suppose it works.
Ku Shala PIanet Express 1432	Posted - 2015.05.04 13:48:00 - [19] - Quote where does the if you start low you cant go up theme come from? dust has always been the opposite BPO mods use to be 1000 aur and now they are much more. if you dont like the price dont buy them. if they dont sell ccp will stop making them or lower the price no petition required. *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist x5)* Caldari Loyalist 22 230 780 sp in drop suit upgrades
Cypher Nil Fireteam Tempest 265	Posted - 2015.05.04 14:17:00 - [20] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: where does the if you start low you cant go up theme come from? dust has always been the opposite BPO mods use to be 1000 aur and now they are much more. if you dont like the price dont buy them. if they dont sell ccp will stop making them or lower the price no petition required. I've had to read your post 6 times over to understand what your trying to say. punctuation man, it helps a lot. n++pâçGòÉS+Ç 27+ Million SP Merc n++pâçGòÉS+Ç Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Caldari Loyalist Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉn¦ñ Of course we won, now when do I get paid?



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