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All Gucci wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

Assault ak.0

Krin's DMG Mod x2
Complex Light Damage Mod
(Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.)

Complex Armor Repairer x2
Complex Armor Plates x3

Carthum Assault ScR
Sidearm
Grenade
Equipment

Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit.

MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ.

This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad.

Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die...

sorry but that fit is garbage.... I would never lose to you lol I have an advanced fit that would strafe circle around you and demolish your health... core nades to the face all day. your trying to make the Ak0 seem like it's unbeatable so all the crybabies can agree and more nerf threads can appear lol all these new ak0 I have seen I dookie on with my basic ScR and adv suit.... if you think your fit seldom loses then qsync 1v1 me and i will drop you every time. I have already beaten sax three times in a scr 1v1 fight although he did get me with a core to the face What?

... this was before I had core nades though or I would've done it first lol

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LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5768	Posted - 2015.05.01 11:31:00 - [1] - Quote Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die...
Talon Paetznick II New Eden's Army Learning Alliance 107	Posted - 2015.05.01 11:59:00 - [2] - Quote Ishikone forge gun from a distance all proper murder is premeditated, that's what makes new Eden fun acidental mansluaghter charges in FW however are not
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8325	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:02:00 - [3] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die... Damage/speed spiked minmatar assaults with good combat rifle skills will slash that fit up. A minassault or minmando with a mass driver in close will two-shot you with a core mass driver. Gallente fit for closing speed and using cover properly will eat that suit alive. The AR can put out higher armor DPS than you can. Calassault who abuses range and terrain will kill you accurately out of your optimal. The problem inherent to the rail rifle (and why galassault players use it) is because it's powerful enough to tear an ass open without damage mods. Thusly allowing a caldari to focus on shield defenses. The inherent problem with this design philosophy is a gallente assault can use a RR as well as a calsuit and loses nothing by stacking damage mods. Which puts an RRs alpha at the terroristic level. So hard counter? Assault Gk.0 Complex damage mod x3 Complex ferroscale x2 Complex Armor Rep Complex reactive plate Complex Kincat Proto rail rifle or ACR Adv bolt pistol grenade of choice Equipment of choice There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Seed Dren Helix Order Learning Alliance 185	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:03:00 - [4] - Quote Dren scout with REs. Not allways but sometimes.... sometimes. FEAR THE DREN!! Amarr assualt + shotgun + hellfire= illuminati confirmed
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 233	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:27:00 - [5] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die... sorry but that fit is garbage.... I would never lose to you lol I have an advanced fit that would strafe circle around you and demolish your health... core nades to the face all day. your trying to make the Ak0 seem like it's unbeatable so all the crybabies can agree and more nerf threads can appear lol all these new ak0 I have seen I dookie on with my basic ScR and adv suit.... if you think your fit seldom loses then qsync 1v1 me and i will drop you every time. I have already beaten sax three times in a scr 1v1 fight although he did get me with a core to the face ... this was before I had core nades though or I would've done it first lol Director / Slayer / Emperor
Ablerober Gun Sandwich 287	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:35:00 - [6] - Quote I read that the Krins damage mods only apply to sidearms. If this is the case, I'd equip a Bolt Pistol and replace the Krins with light damage mods or basic shield extenders. Unless you really intend to give your sidearm a damage bonus.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 589	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:46:00 - [7] - Quote LAV to the face. That's a pretty hard counter. We want cake and tea.
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 401	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:49:00 - [8] - Quote Fear my knives you slow ass son of a *****. BRB, looking for socks PSN: tommygunboy2080 I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
VAHZZ Arrary of Clusters 1680	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:53:00 - [9] - Quote Headshot +60 VAHZZ (NT-11 Sniper arifle) LT SHANKS Day 1 Return to Sniper Scout Blog
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3838	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:54:00 - [10] - Quote All Gucci wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die... sorry but that fit is garbage.... I would never lose to you lol I have an advanced fit that would strafe circle around you and demolish your health... core nades to the face all day. your trying to make the Ak0 seem like it's unbeatable so all the crybabies can agree and more nerf threads can appear lol all these new ak0 I have seen I dookie on with my basic ScR and adv suit.... if you think your fit seldom loses then qsync 1v1 me and i will drop you every time. I have already beaten sax three times in a scr 1v1 fight although he did get me with a core to the face ... this was before I had core nades though or I would've done it first lol Pssh... I've 1v1ed sax with a PLC in his AmAssault... And I came out. And I 1v1ed his proto Amarr with my Quafe A-1 and basic ScR, and took him to under 100 HP. Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons First to PM me with common name wins (no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)

All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 233	Posted - 2015.05.01 12:56:00 - [11] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: LAV to the face. That's a pretty hard counter. lmao Director / Slayer / Emperor
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1273	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:01:00 - [12] - Quote Seed Dren wrote: Dren scout with REs. Not allways but sometimes.... sometimes. FEAR THE DREN!! I have my RE on a 3x myofib dren assault. Only ever used it once though. I have not got to use the scout in quite some time, I used to keep it equipped with a sniper for counter snipes , but don't have sniper rifles near maxed anymore ( was prof 3). I need to pull it out more often. Drens were one of my best buys for this game. Love them
Merc Norris 0	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:22:00 - [13] - Quote The hard counter to any fit is Merc Norris. Bask in my participation in this thread. This signature is the most clever signature.
Tweaksz Titans of Phoenix RUST415 212	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:29:00 - [14] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment This fit is slow therefore easy to hit, and by proxy easy to kill. Pill Popping Madness!
Scheneighnay McBob And the ButtPirates 6351	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:46:00 - [15] - Quote Allahuakbar Some details can be ignored
I-Shayz-I I----------I 5486	Posted - 2015.05.01 13:47:00 - [16] - Quote The assault scrambler is crap at longer ranges, but it gives you the edge in CQC compared to the standard scrambler. A armor tanking RR user at range would be the hardest counter to this if you were both engaging each other at the same time out in the open. In CQC I could splash you around the corner with my mass driver. Your slow movement speed would be the death of you if you tried to run away, but I would die quickly in line of sight. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
Aramis Madrigal Titans of Phoenix RUST415 404	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:08:00 - [17] - Quote Open spaces are a hard counter. You're going to get eaten alive anytime your speed becomes a liability.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3424	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:17:00 - [18] - Quote If you mean in a straight up one v one using only rifles and such, then possibly not...... otherwise as everyone else has said, BEWM Booms from a distance or blap to the face. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5768	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: If you mean in a straight up one v one using only rifles and such, then possibly not...... otherwise as everyone else has said, BEWM Booms from a distance or blap to the face. I think you're the only one who correctly interpreted what I was trying to get at. Maybe I worded my OP in a confusing way? Everyone seems to be adding in terrain, cover, speed to close distances, etc. in their posts.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3425	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:31:00 - [20] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: If you mean in a straight up one v one using only rifles and such, then possibly not...... otherwise as everyone else has said, BEWM Booms from a distance or blap to the face. I think you're the only one who correctly interpreted what I was trying to get at. Maybe I worded my OP in a confusing way? Reading proficiency level 3, I'm not even a lvl5 pro. But as for the fit, aren't the Scrambler and assault scrambler considered to be the best 1v1 weapons anyway within a reasonable range? Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!

Denchlad 7 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2196	Posted - 2015.05.01 14:32:00 - [21] - Quote All Gucci wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die... sorry but that fit is garbage.... I would never lose to you lol I have an advanced fit that would strafe circle around you and demolish your health... core nades to the face all day. your trying to make the Ak0 seem like it's unbeatable so all the crybabies can agree and more nerf threads can appear lol all these new ak0 I have seen I dookie on with my basic ScR and adv suit.... if you think your fit seldom loses then qsync 1v1 me and i will drop you every time. I have already beaten sax three times in a scr 1v1 fight although he did get me with a core to the face ... this was before I had core nades though or I would've done it first lol Please in the name of all thats holy biomass. You're really not that great. Above average at best. Your epeen stroking game is weak. Anyway, a hybrid rep/speed tanked Min Assault with an ACR/CR is a fair match, though the easier hard counter would be a similarly fit Gal Assault with a RR/ARR. I'm 98% likely to better than you at using any gun. Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Pwnycorn 3127	Posted - 2015.05.01 15:13:00 - [22] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Assault ak.0 Krin's DMG Mod x2 Complex Light Damage Mod (Any mix and match of complex damage mods will work. I chose this setup because I'm cheap.) Complex Armor Repairer x2 Complex Armor Plates x3 Carthum Assault ScR Sidearm Grenade Equipment Aside from the usual SG/NK/PLC to the back, HMG to the face, Rail Snipe from a tank, Thale's headshot from the redline, flying RE from the Heavens, teamwork etc., I would like to know if there are any hard counters to this fit. MinAssaults and CalAssaults are usually taken out with ease from an AmAss with an AScR/ScR. GalAssaults will lose at range to RR wielding CalAssaults and sometimes will struggle against ACR wielding MinAssaults in CQ. This AmAssault, whose total eHP rivals Sentinels but with the added advantages of a smaller hitbox, faster movement/sprint speeds, a 20+ HP/S armor repair, and a damage modded weapon that excels in nearly all ranges, seldom loses to anything. It can be used effectively solo but is even deadlier with a squad. Is there any suit that can consistently compete head-on with this specific AmAss fit? I thought MinAssaults would be good contenders, but they just kind of die... Pretty much any armor tank/speedy suit with a CR, like, Dmg mod x3 Boundless Combat Rifle Breach SMG Core Locus Grenade Complex Ferroscale x3 Complex Armor Rep Complex Kin Catalyser Would also work pretty well with a dual tanked Min Assault Suit or another Am Assault with any gun except the scrambler rifle- Any Cal/shield tanked Min suit would be wrecked. Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 47	Posted - 2015.05.01 15:22:00 - [23] - Quote 2 shots from my TSR should set you right CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6468	Posted - 2015.05.01 15:36:00 - [24] - Quote I would just like to take a moment to recognize the historical significance of this Assault Suit is OP thread. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
REDBACK96USMC To Test Tickles 154	Posted - 2015.05.01 16:09:00 - [25] - Quote The only counter to a built up Amarr Assault with Lazor weapons is an Amarr Assault with Lazor weapons and a Logibro. So the Hard counter is 2 guys vs 1.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RUST415 3732	Posted - 2015.05.01 16:11:00 - [26] - Quote A ferroscale tanked Gal Assault with an armor biased weapon (like CR or ARR) will eat that suit up. It's too slow with the two complex armor plates, IMO.
deezy dabest 2178	Posted - 2015.05.01 16:52:00 - [27] - Quote Same as the hard counter to everything in this game. Scout with a combat rifle. Scout with RE. Heavy with HMG ( assuming close quarters )
nelo kazuma THE LAST H0PE. RUST415 145	Posted - 2015.05.01 17:35:00 - [28] - Quote Melee pure melee lol


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