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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:20:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:I blow through 3 to 5 mil a night... I always try to go for the big boys.
only 3-5? I lose more then that even using std suits but I always make it back plus some, what I don't understand is that instead of fighting and completely destroying the enemy most people will just run away because they don't want to lose any isk
especially proto players most of them are too cowardly to run solo so they always stack squads or Q-sync
and even then if they take any significant damage they start running
I always fight to the death I mean if i'm low health and there's a chance i can retreat to heal back up i will but I always go right back in to fight even as a sniper I don't like to just sit back
most of the time I have to initiate fights because my team is too scared to fight, but once I take one or two guys out and the enemy is distracted they tend to push not all the time but it usually works with semi competent teams
the new game mode is made so you can push as hard as you can not so you can just stand around trying to live as long as possible, if you are one of these people that do this then you need to stop playing acquisition |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:23:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:I got proto too.
The fukk i gotta run for? The day proto users fight with their heads will be a scary day on Dust indeed. I don't recall ever having proto users outsmart me, just outmuscle or outnumber. Outsmarting is for people like me who effectively run cheap fits because we realize proto gear isn't ISK efficient, and ISK efficiency is the name of the game in New Eden.
how is proto gear not efficient? you sound like you die a lot
proto gear is what it should be by the point you get to using it you shouldn't be dying so much and you should be making more then enough to afford it
I can already afford it and my skills are all mostly only at lvl 3 or under with the exception of a few mods and weapons the only proto gear I use is sniper rifles and myos
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:25:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I do, I find it stupid to just stand there and get one up the butt.
that's your problem you just stand there, it's a battle field your'e supposed to fight |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:27:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out.
there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:29:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:To be honest what really scares me is a assault ak.0 or them jumpy or super fast assault mk.0, its just impossible to hit them and there is no escaping them (Only if they are skilled that is)
these jumpy fits are fairly capable of taking out any proto suit with minimum punches
its fun to see a proto suit die instantly to a melee attack
just run up and smash them
throw a few nades then just jump outta there |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:31:00 -
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Zack3000 Smith wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:how many of you cowards run away from proto users or even adv or std when you feel like your outmatched or you are fighting against your counter? dude you r lame....do you even dust?? y should i fight you when i know i am gonna get killed..why should i continue to let you shoot me while your in optimal range?? why is your suit type, shield, armor, and range on display.... so i can decide if i want to fight you.. you sound like someone just owned you.. more than likely you shot at them they ran only to get a better angle on you. then proceeded to kill you.. i would think you would be talking to me but i havent played today or yesterday.... GIT GUD
lol funny thing is im complaining about my cowerdly team mates you seem to be the problem I'm referring to
thanks for proving my point |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:36:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can
The simple answer to the question is because I ******* want to. What of it?!
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:41:00 -
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Depends on how stubborn I'm feeling but usually if I'm outmatched and I think I can make it, damn straight I run... well not straight, I zig-zag a bit. I might be stupid but my brain still functions and I ain't going to give someone an easy kill if I've got any choice in the matter.
I got a lot of stuff you want and could just have if it weren't for the trade tax.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:42:00 -
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I run from anything that isn't militia.
If I sense even a hint of STD, ADV, or PRO, I'm out.
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
2345
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:43:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can
Because you lose if your team runs out of clones.
Edit: And before you try to point out, from your pedestal, that "and clone count doesn't matter" part. I disregarded it because there isn't a game mode where clone count doesn't matter.
I got a lot of stuff you want and could just have if it weren't for the trade tax.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:45:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones.
Tell that to those Buttclowns on the bottom 2-22. Makes my neckbeard itch.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:47:00 -
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I run low HP high speed and regen suits and am an RE expert.
If I can't win out in the open even with strafing (More than one person shooting at me, too much HP to kill in a timely manner, scrambler rifle), I run to cover, and use it to strafe in and out of, or just turn, toss an RE, keep running, and blow the fool to smithereens.
So yes, I run from a fight I can't win outright.
3v1 or even 2v1 against brick tankers is a hard fight because the amount of HP you have to take out. So, just utilize cover, mobility and traps to separate, flank, and outmaneuver until you're down to a 1v1, which you will win if you aren't a scrub.
BRB, looking for socks
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:50:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones. Tell that to those Buttclowns on the bottom 2-22. Makes my neckbeard itch.
I don't think you people realize that there is no clone count in the new game mode |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:51:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote:I run low HP high speed and regen suits and am an RE expert.
If I can't win out in the open even with strafing (More than one person shooting at me, too much HP to kill in a timely manner, scrambler rifle), I run to cover, and use it to strafe in and out of, or just turn, toss an RE, keep running, and blow the fool to smithereens.
So yes, I run from a fight I can't win outright.
3v1 or even 2v1 against brick tankers is a hard fight because the amount of HP you have to take out. So, just utilize cover, mobility and traps to separate, flank, and outmaneuver until you're down to a 1v1, which you will win if you aren't a scrub.
tactical retreats are one thing, but running away when you take slight damage? I mean come on if you are that scared of losing isk or whatever you are using then don't use it |
Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:52:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones. Edit: And before you try to point out, from your pedestal, that "and clone count doesn't matter" part. I disregarded it because there isn't a game mode where clone count doesn't matter.
have you played the new game mode? |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:05:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones. Tell that to those Buttclowns on the bottom 2-22. Makes my neckbeard itch. I don't think you people realize that there is no clone count in the new game mode
Well you see when you don't specify a game mode, it is assumed you mean any game mode, like you know the other 3 where clone counts matter. Learn to express yourself without the assumption people can read your mind via the internet.
Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
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Sicerly Yaw
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:28:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote: Well you see when you don't specify a game mode, it is assumed you mean any game mode, like you know the other 3 where clone counts matter. Learn to express yourself without the assumption people can read your mind via the internet.
funny how people try to give advice yet they don't even listen to it themselves
if you had actually read the thread you'd see that I did mention it
not only that but I wasn't specifying because I didn't need to
you people contradict yourselves on your own
do I really need to point out every single detail |
Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2015.04.30 14:47:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:I got proto too.
The fukk i gotta run for? The day proto users fight with their heads will be a scary day on Dust indeed. I don't recall ever having proto users outsmart me, just outmuscle or outnumber. Outsmarting is for people like me who effectively run cheap fits because we realize proto gear isn't ISK efficient, and ISK efficiency is the name of the game in New Eden. how is proto gear not efficient? you sound like you die a lot proto gear is what it should be by the point you get to using it you shouldn't be dying so much and you should be making more then enough to afford it I can already afford it and my skills are all mostly only at lvl 3 or under with the exception of a few mods and weapons the only proto gear I use is sniper rifles and myos
Proto gear costs several times as much as advanced, yet with only slightly better stats, and you're only making slightly more in battles using it.
It's inefficient because you're risking far more ISK than it's worth.
I can easily afford it, and have some sets of it, but I never use it because I never need more than advanced. Hell, I hardly even use advanced outside of FW.
Some details can be ignored
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.04.30 14:50:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:how many of you cowards run away from proto users or even adv or std when you feel like you're outmatched or you are fighting against your counter?
Never.
Just switch to Apex suite or BPO filled with damage modifiers and cash in the ISK.
(Probably will die a lot, but hell... That is a normal match for me  ) |
Squagga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.04.30 15:42:00 -
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TTK is too short to run away. I mostly use STD to continually work on my gun game, so the money is less important to me as a benefit
Reloading, the silent killer.
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Elpedo Hughes
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.04.30 15:53:00 -
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Mrgugernaut wrote:Since most of te time i use basic gear i flank proto suits. Get an extra 5 shot advantage.
This is how you get good!
My Officer and BPOs for Sale
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.30 16:18:00 -
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Bro, if I'm outmatched, I don't dive in headlong into a 1 on 1. That's stupid. Its not a cowards way. Pride gets you killed. You don't take punches bro, you dodge em to land your own.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Protected Void
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.04.30 16:25:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:how many of you cowards run away from proto users or even adv or std when you feel like you're outmatched or you are fighting against your counter?
I honestly rarely notice what grade of gear an enemy has before I've either killed them or they've killed me. I generally don't use the stats readout at all. So I certainly don't run away from proto in general.
If I ever feel outmatched, it's because I'm outnumbered, in which case I make a strategic withdrawal.
Also, since I never use any HP modules (not even skilled into them) on my scout, everything is my counter. So it would make for a boring game if I were to run away from my counter  |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Mercenary Army
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Posted - 2015.04.30 20:22:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones. Edit: And before you try to point out, from your pedestal, that "and clone count doesn't matter" part. I disregarded it because there isn't a game mode where clone count doesn't matter. have you played the new game mode?
Finally got into a match of it. Already corrected myself.
I got a lot of stuff you want and could just have if it weren't for the trade tax.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Posted - 2015.04.30 20:33:00 -
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I hide in a corner, cowering in fear while spamming mass driver rounds in their general direction until I see a +50 on the screen.
Works pretty well for the most part, and I still place top 3 on the board from the support wp.
I like repping people that do all the work for me Lol
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Rahkeem Sims
Engineers Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.04.30 20:33:00 -
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I never run away from a fight. Don't care if i'm militia or not. I fought a proto heavy and won before in militia. I couldn't care less if i'm out matched or not
Caldari for life. Red omen for ever
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BAD FURRY
Oh No You Didn't
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Posted - 2015.04.30 20:52:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:how many of you cowards run away from proto users or even adv or std when you feel like you're outmatched or you are fighting against your counter?
im in a tank ! with a railgun pro my fit costs 10 times your drop suit fully fitted .
its not being a coward its being smart !
PS: let me call back my tanks and grab my TAR and hunt you from the other zip code have fun in that pro suit ill be adding that to my locker at the end of the match !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.30 21:17:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Henchmen21 wrote: Well you see when you don't specify a game mode, it is assumed you mean any game mode, like you know the other 3 where clone counts matter. Learn to express yourself without the assumption people can read your mind via the internet. funny how people try to give advice yet they don't even listen to it themselves if you had actually read the thread you'd see that I did mention it not only that but I wasn't specifying because I didn't need to you people contradict yourselves on your own do I really need to point out every single detail
Well seeing as you were quoting quotes from before you said anything about the new game mode my comment is fully valid. Or do I have to point every single detail out to you?
Your game is terrible, you should feel bad.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2015.04.30 21:23:00 -
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Sicerly Yaw wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Sicerly Yaw wrote:Forever ETC wrote:There is a difference between being brave and stupid... I'll let you figure it out. there's nothing to be brave about, when you are immortal and clone count doesn't matter, why wouldn't you fight as much as you can Because you lose if your team runs out of clones. Tell that to those Buttclowns on the bottom 2-22. Makes my neckbeard itch. I don't think you people realize that there is no clone count in the new game mode
Your initial post didnt mention the new mode. So no, I didn't think to factor in the 1 mode that doesn't have a clone count. you're using 25% of the game as your basis for comparison? Shoddy.
Edit: but since you are talking about that mode specifically, I still wouldn't probably just rush in with my dxck out. There is always a better tactical solution to breaking an enemy siege line, or if they are dug in to a single bunker or holding a single point.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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