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B1G Boss
Nos Nothi
66
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:51:00 -
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I had an Idea on how to fix Dust 514's broken economy. Now Hear me out This might sound absurd. Wipe All Isk from every Players wallet. What do you guys think of this Idea? Or do you have a Better Idea.
Snake. Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1746
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:53:00 -
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reserved
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
838
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:53:00 -
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B1G Boss wrote:I had an Idea on how to fix Dust 514's broken economy. Now Hear me out This might sound absurd. Wipe All Isk from every Players wallet. What do you guys think of this Idea? Or do you have a Better Idea.
Have you been drinking?
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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PARTH0K
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
84
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:54:00 -
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I have a great idea.... Git Gud
BUYING/TRADING for Roden Sniper Rifles and Thale's Sniper Rifles
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
myrtle beach leap frogz
346
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:54:00 -
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B1G Boss wrote:I had an Idea on how to fix Dust 514's broken economy. Now Hear me out This might sound absurd. Wipe All Isk from every Players wallet. What do you guys think of this Idea? Or do you have a Better Idea.
I think you are a failure of a troll. Just wait and count the thread about officer stomping.
Do you know where Myrtle Beach is? |
DiablosMajora
142
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:55:00 -
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1. Tiericide 2. Metalevel lockouts
Prepare your angus
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B1G Boss
Nos Nothi
66
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:55:00 -
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This was Simply an Idea.
Snake. Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!
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B1G Boss
Nos Nothi
66
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Posted - 2015.04.30 00:56:00 -
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DiablosMajora wrote:1. Tiericide 2. Metalevel lockouts That would work alot better
Snake. Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!
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Denchlad 7
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2183
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:09:00 -
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No.
Because id just grind with my BPOs slaying everyone as ever for a few hours then carry on. Also because Proto Stomping simply cannot be fixed without tiericide (which I still am yet to see a version of I like or think is worth the effort to implement)
I'm 98% likely to better than you at using any gun.
Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
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Denchlad 7
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
2183
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:10:00 -
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DiablosMajora wrote:1. Tiericide 2. Metalevel lockouts Metalevel lockouts are one of the dumbest ideas out there. Put a protostomper in Advanced versus a meh player in Advanced, the protostomper will probably win every single time. Git gud.
I'm 98% likely to better than you at using any gun.
Dench's Emporium of Everything! coming soon...
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DiablosMajora
142
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:14:00 -
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Bruh, isn't the point of tiericide and metalevel lockouts to.. like... remove proto and advanced?
Prepare your angus
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3823
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:18:00 -
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Lol...
I made my money legit, thank you very much.
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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DDx77
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
235
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:19:00 -
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I have a better idea
REMOVE THE ACTIVE SCANNER
It is a proto stomping tool.
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E-Rock
Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback
82
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:19:00 -
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B1G Boss wrote:I had an Idea on how to fix Dust 514's broken economy. Now Hear me out This might sound absurd. Wipe All Isk from every Players wallet. What do you guys think of this Idea? Or do you have a Better Idea.
Worst. Idea. Ever. (drops the mic, walks out the room). #bringbackthewarbarge
Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇǵùѵ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½
-Founder of CKC and UCKC
-Ahrendee Inc. #bringbackthewarbarge
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
3823
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:20:00 -
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E-Rock wrote:#bringbackthewarbarge
Sniper Rifles are for Nitrogenous Dioxide Borons
First to PM me with common name wins
(no Hyansaru, u win too much ;P)
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3353
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Posted - 2015.04.30 01:22:00 -
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Kdr matchmaking fixes this.
As of April 9, 2015, we have about 330 days of DUST 514 left. Enjoy them!
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Yeeeuuuupppp
1017
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Posted - 2015.04.30 02:22:00 -
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Or you just deal with it *shrugs *
Sheeba Sheeba
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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Lightning35 Delta514
48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE
326
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Posted - 2015.04.30 02:28:00 -
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At 10 million trying to survive out there living off of quafe, and here you are trying to take my precious remains of what once was 100 million. Here I am running starter fits trying to stock up on oak and here you are along smack about "wipe isk". It's to much for me.......=ƒÿ¡=ƒÿ¡=ƒÿ¡=ƒÿ¡=ƒÿ¡=ƒÿ¡
48th Special Operations Force.
Twitter- @48SOF
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Scheneighnay McBob
And the ButtPirates
6302
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Posted - 2015.04.30 02:30:00 -
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No.
There's only 1 way to get all ISK wiped, as it happened in beta: discover a completely game-breaking exploit to make yourself ludicrously rich.
Some details can be ignored
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Twelve Guage
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
548
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:07:00 -
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Not just no but hell no.
Sandwich maker LVL. 5
You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
My like button is back. C:<
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1179
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Posted - 2015.04.30 03:10:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this.
Not really, there are some insanely good logis out there with less than .5 kd/r as they spend their time repping, reviving, dishing out uplinks and hives, and throwing up scans.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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fragmentedhackslash
Ahrendee Inc.
332
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:08:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this. Not really, there are some insanely good logis out there with less than .5 kd/r as they spend their time repping, reviving, dishing out uplinks and hives, and throwing up scans.
1. As a dedicated logibruh for most of my career, I can cleanly state you can not run solo logi as a Proto frame, each and every match. Can Not. Very open to situation, but without some smart thinking while on the field, running Advanced logi is even then tough to break even while solo.\
2. A compounding factor that aggravates this in my opinion is that the Minmatar Logi has never, yes never, had an adjustment to the base stats of the suit, just as the Min Scout has never had a change to the base stats to the suit.
Roles have been changed, not the base stats on either of these. Take the Min scout for first, so when I run a links scout out and die because I don't have even close to parity EHP, Electronic Warfare or equipment fitting ability, as a Min Scout, it's hard to figure why I wouldn't just do the same in Medium Frame Militia gear, and it runs faster.
When it comes to logibruh I need to start my advanced minmatar logisitics with 2 precision enhancers because I don't have the fitting or module room for even nearly as close as the same as some heavy armoured scouts, and the Min logi is a medium suit? at full armour and full shield, there is 2 racial scouts that have more EHP as a decked out minmatar logisitics. There is a thing with being more often then not, the only front line DEDICATED logibruh, the basic requirement is that as a logi, you are tough, not unbreakable, that's the heavys job, but tough, I draw the line when I see a scout with a rep tool, and there is a lot that do that.
When a advanced scout runs at my back and 2 shots my logi with a shotgun and his scout suit that has more health, better Electronic Warfare, runs faster, has a smaller hitbox, and a gun that has a range table that equates to 100m well, yes, not many players that actually sit down and think about efficiency, will ever run logistics, let alone Proto Logibruh while solo. Other contributing factors are the Solo Blues not unlike Blues music, just much worse.
So you now have a guess from where fielding the Min logi has issues. The first starts with basic stats. Again, which have never been touched, as the same with min scouts, for 2 whole years.
No mention of the Amarr Logi or Cal Logi role bonus issues. I will say of the 3 I have mentioned, if you ever see a Minmatar Medium Frame, just shoot the backpack, that thing is huge.
Like with a lot of other suit roles, and classes, when it comes to Solo, and being a dedicated logi, the risk is not worth the reward.
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1482
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:18:00 -
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No I don't agree that wiping out years of effort in a game that routinely punishes the player with its miniscule payouts is a good solution to anything.
Yes, I do have a better idea.
Matchmaking tied to meta level of equipment allowed.
I have a post, that got zip response - poor me, for something on that line. Although that was based on MLT/STD/ADV/PRO level fits to line up with the same level in a match. Using that idea or Meta level would solve what you want without CCP erasing my cash.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
1180
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:19:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this. Not really, there are some insanely good logis out there with less than .5 kd/r as they spend their time repping, reviving, dishing out uplinks and hives, and throwing up scans. 1. As a dedicated logibruh for most of my career, I can cleanly state you can not run solo logi as a Proto frame, each and every match. Can Not. Very open to situation, but without some smart thinking while on the field, running Advanced logi is even then tough to break even while solo.\ 2. A compounding factor that aggravates this in my opinion is that the Minmatar Logi has never, yes never, had an adjustment to the base stats of the suit, just as the Min Scout has never had a change to the base stats to the suit. Roles have been changed, not the base stats on either of these. Take the Min scout for first, so when I run a links scout out and die because I don't have even close to parity EHP, Electronic Warfare or equipment fitting ability, as a Min Scout, it's hard to figure why I wouldn't just do the same in Medium Frame Militia gear, and it runs faster. When it comes to logibruh I need to start my advanced minmatar logisitics with 2 precision enhancers because I don't have the fitting or module room for even nearly as close as the same as some heavy armoured scouts, and the Min logi is a medium suit? at full armour and full shield, there is 2 racial scouts that have more EHP as a decked out minmatar logisitics. There is a thing with being more often then not, the only front line DEDICATED logibruh, the basic requirement is that as a logi, you are tough, not unbreakable, that's the heavys job, but tough, I draw the line when I see a scout with a rep tool, and there is a lot that do that. When a advanced scout runs at my back and 2 shots my logi with a shotgun and his scout suit that has more health, better Electronic Warfare, runs faster, has a smaller hitbox, and a gun that has a range table that equates to 100m well, yes, not many players that actually sit down and think about efficiency, will ever run logistics, let alone Proto Logibruh while solo. Other contributing factors are the Solo Blues not unlike Blues music, just much worse. So you now have a guess from where fielding the Min logi has issues. The first starts with basic stats. Again, which have never been touched, as the same with min scouts, for 2 whole years. No mention of the Amarr Logi or Cal Logi role bonus issues. I will say of the 3 I have mentioned, if you ever see a Minmatar Medium Frame, just shoot the backpack, that thing is huge. Like with a lot of other suit roles, and classes, when it comes to Solo, and being a dedicated logi, the risk is not worth the reward.
Your speaking to someone who's main toon is a Minmatar Logi.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18635
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Posted - 2015.04.30 05:10:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote: Your speaking to someone who's main toon is a Minmatar Logi.
* punches Johnny in the jaw again
"MIN MAXING! MIN MAXING! I'M BETTER AT IT THAN YOU!"
- Mobius Wyvern
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1987
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Posted - 2015.04.30 05:36:00 -
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Make mlt worth less to kill.
There should be a wp modifier. If you kill under your weight you dont get as much wp.
Example. Proto kills mlt=10wp. Mlt kills proto 100wp. Or some such scale.
Crush them
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2716
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Posted - 2015.04.30 14:32:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:DiablosMajora wrote:1. Tiericide 2. Metalevel lockouts Metalevel lockouts are one of the dumbest ideas out there. Put a protostomper in Advanced versus a meh player in Advanced, the protostomper will probably win every single time. Git gud. Agreed, both these approaches to Dust's problems are well-intentioned but completely misguided.
1 & 2 are the easy, obvious knee-jerk reactions to an asymmetric lobby fps, and seek to change the game into something far less ambitious and far more like the generic fpses that peeps are familiar with.
Whatever answer we come up with for New Eden, it has to be better than that.
Regarding ISK imbalance in Dust, it will always be a thing. IF we ever fully integrate with EVE and if mercs ever wield real strategic power, the level of ISK imbalance will be insane. Rattati, Rouge and we players need to learn to design around that, end of story.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3360
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Posted - 2015.04.30 14:39:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this. Not really, there are some insanely good logis out there with less than .5 kd/r as they spend their time repping, reviving, dishing out uplinks and hives, and throwing up scans.
Two questions: 1. How did they get to .5 KDR? 2. How are they going to stay there permanently?
As of April 9, 2015, we have about 330 days of DUST 514 left. Enjoy them!
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Back and Forth
7899
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Posted - 2015.04.30 15:20:00 -
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Wipe all assets and skill points while your at it.
Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you.
Get Dust ISK Here
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Squagga
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
584
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Posted - 2015.04.30 15:55:00 -
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Haha. Ha. Hahaha. No, that's never going to work. I do like meta level lock, though. I decide to run proto, that's all you see. I decide to run bpos, guess what?
Reloading, the silent killer.
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