DUST Search - The trust system

Jonny D Buelle wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Jonny D Buelle wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

As much as I want dust to be connected to eve, we can leave alot of the sleezy behavior out please.

This is New Eden Bro, don't fight it, embrace it, carress it, then f*ck it up the ass!

Or... I could use my brain? I'm just saying that so far all my sales have yielded great isk, and my trades got me monster items that I can use. Would like to continue this pattern without the newb-loser experience that comes with a large percentage of these players, and their trolly behavior.

You can still scam by haggling price, but making an agreement, then under-handedly backing out of the deal once you've recieved your half of the bargain struck between men, where I'm from is called stealing. It's dishonorable, and your word is worth gold! Some of you have garbage character in real life. This is a video game, and you still want to be a douche?

I'm simply suggesting a progressive option. If you trolls don't like it you know where the tear bucket is.

Ain't trolling here. This is New Eden. A place where if you arnt scamming your being scammed. This game (including EVE) thrives with the bad sh*t we do to each other.

Backstabbing, corporate sabotage, and scamming have always been a thing in New Eden and I for one am against changing it. Am I a bad person? Sometimes I can be. This stuff happens a lot and it makes EVE and Dust extremely unique as the devs and GMs allow it to happen.

Also its not considered stealing as you willing gave money. Or do you think the age old 'Prince of Nigera' scam is a form of stealing?

Grow a backbone bro, harden up and embrace New Eden for what it is.

And remember the first two rules of New Eden:

1. Don't use what you can't afford to lose

2. Everything is a scam.


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Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 830	Posted - 2015.04.29 19:42:00 - [1] - Quote Just think it would be better if I could put x item up in the player trade section of the market with my o.b.o. price tag to it. If the market had an "assets being sold section", mercs could go check the prices of things being sold at their leisure. I could simply post that I'm selling 20 experimental mass drivers for, oh idk, 150k isk a piece. Merc 2 sees this, and decides he wants them. He can 1. Pay that price in the market, and that isk, minus fee, goes to the selling merc. The items go to the buying merc. No negotiations, haggling, or "trust" involved. Currently I've only traded a few items with mercs that are in corp/alliance. 1. They've bled with me 2. They know me well enough to know that, if in the states, I'll come find them..... not joking. I would like to trade with others with the hope of possibly getting better value, but who am I kidding I don't trust you mutha.... mercs Now if the buying merc wants to buy, but doesn't like the price, he could of course mail to haggle it down a notch. Ultimately though, it guarantees a clean transaction. None of this "trust" trading. As much as I want dust to be connected to eve, we can leave alot of the sleezy behavior out please. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 830	Posted - 2015.04.29 20:45:00 - [2] - Quote Agreed, and I won't, but I'd like to be able to just post what I want to sell, play matches, and then see the isk from the agreed upon sale in my wallet. Not spending half my time wrestling with thirsty mercs, and listening to bidding wars. There's a much more civilized way to do things is all, and this doesn't necessarily take away the haggling part. Just the whole "trust" factor for those who want to sell without the foolishness. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 832	Posted - 2015.04.29 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: Option1: Work on trading/player market until it's done, might take another year. Option2: Work on trading/player market until it's done, might take another year, allow players to send items to each other in the meanwhile. CCP picked Option 2. If you want the full trading / market thing, just hold onto your items until that feature is ready. And that's fine. It was a suggestion, not a complaint. Are ideas off limits now? All I suggested was another outlook on the option to trade/sell. Glad to death it's here, but some improvements can be made. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 832	Posted - 2015.04.29 22:56:00 - [4] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: As much as I want dust to be connected to eve, we can leave alot of the sleezy behavior out please. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Online Game... uhm really? Scammers are all over the world man...you want background checks before playing a game? There are tons of online games with trading among players! Newb much? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 832	Posted - 2015.04.29 23:14:00 - [5] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: As much as I want dust to be connected to eve, we can leave alot of the sleezy behavior out please. This is New Eden Bro, don't fight it, embrace it, carress it, then f*ck it up the ass! Or... I could use my brain? I'm just saying that so far all my sales have yielded great isk, and my trades got me monster items that I can use. Would like to continue this pattern without the newb-loser experience that comes with a large percentage of these players, and their trolly behavior. You can still scam by haggling price, but making an agreement, then under-handedly backing out of the deal once you've recieved your half of the bargain struck between men, where I'm from is called stealing. It's dishonorable, and your word is worth gold! Some of you have garbage character in real life. This is a video game, and you still want to be a douche? I'm simply suggesting a progressive option. If you trolls don't like it you know where the tear bucket is. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 832	Posted - 2015.04.29 23:30:00 - [6] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: As much as I want dust to be connected to eve, we can leave alot of the sleezy behavior out please. This is New Eden Bro, don't fight it, embrace it, carress it, then fck it up the ass! Or... I could use my brain? I'm just saying that so far all my sales have yielded great isk, and my trades got me monster items that I can use. Would like to continue this pattern without the newb-loser experience that comes with a large percentage of these players, and their trolly behavior. You can still scam by haggling price, but making an agreement, then under-handedly backing out of the deal once you've recieved your half of the bargain struck between men, where I'm from is called stealing. It's dishonorable, and your word is worth gold! Some of you have garbage character in real life. This is a video game, and you still want to be a douche? I'm simply suggesting a progressive option. If you trolls don't like it you know where the tear bucket is. Ain't trolling here. This is New Eden. A place where if you arnt scamming your being scammed. This game (including EVE) thrives with the bad sht we do to each other. Backstabbing, corporate sabotage, and scamming have always been a thing in New Eden and I for one am against changing it. Am I a bad person? Sometimes I can be. This stuff happens a lot and it makes EVE and Dust extremely unique as the devs and GMs allow it to happen. Also its not considered stealing as you willing gave money. Or do you think the age old 'Prince of Nigera' scam is a form of stealing? Grow a backbone bro, harden up and embrace New Eden for what it is. And remember the first two rules of New Eden: 1. Don't use what you can't afford to lose 2. Everything is a scam. I have never been scammed.... you sir, are in the wrong circles. I spend more time shooting, and less time on comms with online nerds. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 832	Posted - 2015.04.29 23:33:00 - [7] - Quote In my experience, new Eden is what you make it. You choose to be a dirtbag, you'll be a dirtbag. You choose to create a circle of honor and integrity, and you'll have few issues. The choice is new eden, not the actions of individuals. Your rules are flawed. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 837	Posted - 2015.04.30 04:06:00 - [8] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: In my experience, new Eden is what you make it. You choose to be a dirtbag, you'll be a dirtbag. You choose to create a circle of honor and integrity, and you'll have few issues. The choice is new eden, not the actions of individuals. Your rules are flawed. Then stick to your little circle and be safe and not enjoy the darker side of the game, that's on you just keep your QQ wanting to remove the dark side from the game to yourself. Also these rules have been around for over a decade now since EVE Online was first created. You wouldn't fly a 100mil isk ship if you were only averaging 10mil a month in profit would you? (First rule) Also contracts in EVE can either be real or a scam so you can't trust them. I've seen contracts where the insurance was higher than what was being delivered and people taking them only to be taken out by pilots hired by the corp/pilot who sent out the contract. And don't get me started on Jita. The second rule means that you need to becareful with who you trust in this game. Everything is a scam. Boo hoo! Who's QQing now lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 837	Posted - 2015.04.30 04:08:00 - [9] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Also contracts in EVE can either be real or a scam so you can't trust them. I've seen contracts where the insurance was higher than what was being delivered and people taking them only to be taken out by pilots hired by the corp/pilot who sent out the contract. What the hell is the point? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 841	Posted - 2015.04.30 12:15:00 - [10] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: This isn't EVE. And having an incomplete trading system which is easily exploitable by either side does not make this a better game. Especially a game which is already close to being too harsh for new players. Exactly! "Anybody order chaos?"