First, current coding has only a damage per shot thershold available, not DPS.

Second, if you are basing it off of DPS, you have to account for people missing.
It's a strafe shooter, missing happens, and shield regen is quite strong.
Caution is advised.

I would imagine a thershold of 250DPS would be absurd.

It would certainly create a dynamic where projectile weaponry struggles in.

On another note, Mass Driver can't even deal splash DPS, so that would make it completely ineffective against shields.

Ok so shield damage threshold gets implemented, we putting an armor damage threshold on too? It only seems fair.

What I meant is that if a smg is 20 damage per shot for example, then you set the threshold to 20 or 19 depending on how it actually works. So the only way to break shield regen is to:

Not ******* snipe with a smg from 100m away.


Sorry lol. But yea, really I'm looking to give caldari they place on the fields as the long range fighters. Between weapon falloff and a damage threshold, caldari wouldn't have to hug crates so much. It helps caldari more since their weapons have long optimal ranges and higher shield regen. But it doesn't give them any advantages in cqc, which is where they should be weaker

Breaking shield regen should be simple: get closer.

Here's an outside-the-box idea for you guys:

Efficiency rating.

If the efficiency rating is below a certain predetermined amount, regardless of what damage is dealt, it will not stop shields from regening.

I'm thinking the 10% area is perfect.

Well considering I have been running my Cal Assault a great deal lately, I would have to say they are still UP from armor. This leaves me with the feeling that you guys are pushing for something not really needed. The problem with that point is highlighted above as well.

For a loadout that works very well. Std Cal Assault: Energizer, Recharger, Damage mod, Any Pea shooter, Nades for spam, Uplink, Armor repairer.

Basic rules of engagement state that finding cover from enemy bullets is preferable to standing in front of them. Finding cover allows shields to regenerate. Play to cover and exploit the armor tanker's weakness by regenerating all your health before he can find you and continue nibbling off his giblets until they are all gone.

Terrible example, mostly due to your use of a terribad AR. Secondly RR are still op vs armor/shield so..,.dive for cover and git gud. Here's a good example: Dragonfly Assault Tactical Sniper walks up to Pro Gal Logi Sniper and point blank shoots him 2x for a kill...Tru story. The point is that we're all diving for cover, no one is immune to the damage or better able to tank, its damaged or not damaged thats all.

I understand your point but fail to accept that it is indeed an issue due to running both shield tanked as well as armor tanked suits. My example happened in a match I fought not 5 minutes ago. I was literally clubbing the other sniper with my tip of my rifle. No I did not have an armor plate fit. The reality of the game is that there are few one v one engagements, most are tank v infantry or ASCRs (multiple) vs one target. This is blobby warfare Aeon, not the lone gunman vs the lone gunman.

Why not remove the ping to stop shield regen then and modify shield recharge rates to a much much lower value. This would also make sense because this would not make shields OP, unfortunately what has been proposed in here would.

It would mean there would need to be more DPS incoming than X amount to affect shields when in actuality, what you describe as being from Eve, is Passive Regen mitigating a portion of incoming DPS. The DPS still affects the shield level, but is regenerated passively over the time needed to regenerate it rather than being ignored.

There is absolutely no reason a player should be able to stand in a storm of bullets on open ground and survive. Logi Reps being the exception, and they work on shield tankers too btw, so long as the rep rate is high enough to mitigate incoming DPS.

If the reason is to make it "like eve" and you want the regen to continue while being pinged then yeah. Obviously I am not suggesting changing anything on the shields my response was in merely an illustration of how passive regen works in Eve not a description of how I want things to be. I personally don't like sniffing glue either though.

No we shouldn't balance for 1v1, there are rare 1v1s in this game unless you go hide somewhere away from the objectives, then someone will find you. Oh but how about 5v5 lets balance for that or better yet 5v1. This game is more blobby than Eve and it makes no sense why you would want 5 ppl each getting tagged by one stray bullet from an smg at mid range to regenerate their shields as if it were nothing.

Incoming DPS on a lone gunman, would obliterate him rather quickly with any rifles. How about we look at a case where a sniper is keeping your squad pinned down and while separately the incoming dps at long range from your rifles will likely not be enough to take him down through his shields with your proposal, 6 people shooting, at range, at him likely wouldn't either.

You ask for arguments with 1v1? Player A is using an SMG Player B has an AR and the engagement is mid range at the edge of the SMG's engagement range. I think you know where I'm going with this but, Player A bullet hoses Player B, all shots land on target. Player B's shields don't dip at all. Player B line's up his shots, looks around for snipers then pulls the trigger sending a short burst into Player A's head. We all know who the winner in that engagement is.

I see no reason to change this, and btw you are asking them to bring back a CB feature that was tested and proved to be OP even with tuning. It was difficult to kill anyone using any sort of damage threshold, battles were lasting "too long" and there were not enough tears on the forums.

You are arguing just to argue at this point. Sorry that we can't put 1000+vs 1000+ on field, still the effect is the same, horde of bodies running after a few or all of whomever spawns in and doesn't leave battle.